Originally posted by Dinalfos
They are NOT even in strength. If Ben gives Prof a reason to become angry(by putting up a fight, for example), he will supercede him. Rather Easily.Also, Ben is NOT more durable, certainly not when Bruce gets angry.
Ben is indeed a good fighter, but he's not a thinker. Science smarts can give Bruce a different kind of advantage during a fight. And btw, you're understimating prof. Hulk when it comes to fighting. He's pretty decent. He's gained a lot of experience over the years.
I have to addres the durability and will-power factors here.
When the Void was breaking Hulk's bones, he wasn't looking to good.
When the Champion had busted up half the bones in Ben's body, even as a class 85, he kept coming back for more.
no matter what.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I have to addres the durability and will-power factors here.When the Void was breaking Hulk's bones, he wasn't looking to good.
When the Champion had busted up half the bones in Ben's body, even as a class 85, he kept coming back for more.
no matter what.
Originally posted by Horrificus
yes, Vector has tried.
many times.no flaying.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I have to addres the durability and will-power factors here.When the Void was breaking Hulk's bones, he wasn't looking to good.
When the Champion had busted up half the bones in Ben's body, even as a class 85, he kept coming back for more.
no matter what.
Yeah the sentry series...not a good reference.
Still though its insane to say that ANY Hulk is even CLOSE to the willpower of the Thing.
Ben is close to if not on Hal Jordon's level
Originally posted by Horrificus
I have to addres the durability and will-power factors here.When the Void was breaking Hulk's bones, he wasn't looking to good.
When the Champion had busted up half the bones in Ben's body, even as a class 85, he kept coming back for more.
no matter what.
Like others said, Hulk is affected by Sentry.
In FF #374, a swipe of Wolverine's claws had Thing hunching over. In Enemy Of The State, a single stab from Wolverine had Thing down. Want to compare that with how Hulk has handled far more severe injuries?
Originally posted by Grimm22
first, they are even in strength, and Ben is more durable.Second, Ben is a very smart fighter, not near Cap level, but he isnt stupid.
Last, considering that Ben has mastered, Judo, Boxing, Wrestling, Grappiling, ect.. , compared to Prof. Hulk you might as well call him a ninja 😄
They are not even in strength. When they were trapped deep underground and the Hulk and Thing were holding up the cave-in, Thing looked to be straining for all he was worth while Hulk had a smile on his face.
In an issue of FF Unlimited, Merged Hulk casually stopped Thing's punch, and face-planted him. Thing's response: "If I ever was in his class, I ain't no more."
Originally posted by Grimm22
First, Hulk survives nuclear blasts because he ABSORBS the blast.second, I would like to see Hulk fight the freakin champion who wasnt holding anything back for 3 rounds and still be willing to keep fighting afterwards
Hulk survives nukes because he's that durable. Show me where it says the Hulk absorbs the blast.
And Hulk would have done better than Thing against Champion.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Still though its insane to say that ANY Hulk is even CLOSE to the willpower of the Thing.
Unlike actual powers, (like flight, super strength, speed or magic), willpower cannot be truly claimed that easily because everyone can develope it or have bursts of it. Remember, a person can have a lack of will one moment, and the next he's willing to go all the way. The same goes for Thing and Hulk.
What makes you think Banner-Hulk wasn't absolutely hellbent on bracing that mountain long enough? Or what about any other instance where Savage Hulk's base strength wasn't enough?
Btw, you're confusing nuclear bombs with gamma bombs.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Show me where Vector tried to flay the Thing.
Vector only has one weapon.
Force.
When he shot the Hulk, the force he produced flayed all the meat off of Hulk.
When he shot the Thing, this did not happen.
You figure out why. It isn't on me to do that. I just showed you what has happened.
But, the "ray" was the same.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Vector only has one weapon.
Force.
When he shot the Hulk, the force he produced flayed all the meat off of Hulk.When he shot the Thing, this did not happen.
You figure out why. It isn't on me to do that. I just showed you what has happened.
But, the "ray" was the same.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
They are not even in strength. When they were trapped deep underground and the Hulk and Thing were holding up the cave-in, Thing looked to be straining for all he was worth while Hulk had a smile on his face.In an issue of FF Unlimited, Merged Hulk casually stopped Thing's punch, and face-planted him. Thing's response: "If I ever was in his class, I ain't no more."
Real good point here, I remember the latter comic. Anyone have scans?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Vector only has one weapon.
Force.
When he shot the Hulk, the force he produced flayed all the meat off of Hulk.When he shot the Thing, this did not happen.
You figure out why. It isn't on me to do that. I just showed you what has happened.
But, the "ray" was the same.
When did Thing face Vector? Was Vector going all-out? What happened to Thing? Did he get tossed away?
Hulk has run through Vector's TK without harm.