Gryffindor's Common Room

I don't like the way Troy isn't historically accurate to the original story - other then that it's a beautiful production and reminiscent of Gladiator with a good cast but like I said I'm not keen on embellishment of the facts (to an extent because it's hard to adapt text to screenplay I know). Plus Alexander is coming out soon so it seems such epics are coming back into fashion. I wonder if they will highlight the speculation as to whether he was gay and the fact that he married his troops to Eastern women as a symbol of peace between West and Eastern culture (even though he'd just conquered them 🙄 ) although he failed to realise that it is morally corrupt to marry people off en mass; for the women to married off without choice and forced into pregnancy by new husbands and men many of which were already married hence already obligated to families. I hope they manange to portray that parallel properly - that he was indeed a great leader and had broad visions of preserving & respecting culture but that his ambition made him blind and didn't make up for a lack of morality that only sought widescale products whilst ignoring the actual people involved. But then again, rulers and conquerers have mostly always been like that - only think of their aims and believe that any means is justified 🙄 Then there's the supposed 13 day affair with the Queen of the Amazons which many don't really believed happened because there's controversy over the exact existence of the Amazons and where they really came from, plus his founding of the amazing Alexandria in Egypt - then the mystery over his death, was it poison, was it is general whose statue is there for all to see at The British Museum? What was he really told by the oracle in the Siwas Oasis, is he relaly buried there or back in Alexandria... oh what's the point - they'll probably emblazon him as some great hero anyway. Pfft.

Take it easy phoe. I would agree with you to some extend, especially to the fact that the younger generation would remember Troy according to the movie, and not according to the authentic source the " Ilijadus and Odiseus" (I don't know the exact expression or translation in Englsih. But only them also the others who have not read the ep. But if you see it from a movie perspective they had to shortange it, and in the same time had to include some parts to keep it interesting, because by cuting some parts if the kept the original version the movie would have been boring. For example, they didn't show the mithological part how ecvrything started, the competition of the 3 goddess who of them is more beatiful and how Afrodita won, but in return they "made" Paris killing Ahilis in the end.

About Alexandar the MAcedonian, I agree with you that he was barbarian, and in militar or humanitarian context nothing better then Hitler, Cesar and Napoleon, but his particular case has to be judged from a historical context, the guy lived some 2400 years ago.... Who can blame him for not being above his time in terms of means he used to achive his dreams, goals or interest. For Christe sake even today we see endless violence from some counties ridding on horses of evil ot achive their goals or interests. He could be praised for fostering science and culture. Like the library in Alexandria, the love to phylosophy and being spontanius and natural when he met the phylosphers. But his death was misteriouse and I'm looking forward to see how would settle it in the movie.

First paragraph - I said that I understood it's hard to change texts to screenplay 😉 - it's very true they have to adapt things to film and you're right from the audience perspective of those who don't know the story it probably wouldn't matter but it wont paint a historically accurate picture for them. My problem with it is that so many things were changed or ommitted that it leaves too much room for error in preference of a creative liscence - some change I don't mind but I think it was abit too much.

Second paragraph - I acknowledged that he was inspirational in wanting to merge and yet preserve different culture and epitomised it in the cultural trade and learning centre that was Alexandria. (Blasted Ceaser who burned down the main library at the Serapeum 😠 ) but I'm trying to highlight that he wasn't just the great achiever everyone thinks he was. Too much emphasis is given to that but moral atrocities in my opinion shouldn't be glossed over or ignored just because that person did other great things - the end doesn't justify the means. Yes there are still many people, leaders and entrepeneurs just like him today and before him too but that doesn't make it any less serious imo either, I can blame him for the way he went about achieveing his dreams and aspirations, I don't have sympathy for those who put their own interests before the welfare of others (depends on the circumstances but in this case it was one man who thought he had the right to use people however he wanted and that goes for every person who does the same in my book). The historical context has nothing to do with it because like you said - that type of ambition, greed, violence and coersion has always been around, the only difference is he was one of the successful ones and that instead of trying to destroy what he conquered he indulged it culturally - which is why to that extent I hope they portray that parallel and how he was different but not skip over the lack of ethics while they're at it in an attempt at another glorification story.

I think if one is going to do a biographical film/picture/book etc about someone it's one's obligation to portray as fair a depiction as possible instead of working to an agenda/angle to highlight only the things you want to show - but people hardly work that way.

😆 And I'm in no mood to read all of that lol^^

So, what about the third challenge? 🙂

You last p[aragprah Reb, depends of the agenda of the author, if he is after "telling the truth" then I agree with you, but many things or most things today are done lead by comercial motivation, so you wouldn't give bitter truth to your clients if you are after money.. Gotta go now, I'll come back later

Exactly - I fully understand the economical and marketing implications - I just don't agree with them when it comes to historic portrayals over artistic liscense 😉 but don't worry - I am a pragmatist just not here. I am more lenient when it comes to fiction unless they change vital character facets like allowing Rogue to kiss people in the X-men film 😛

Oh and btw - the author may not necessarily be male 😉

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hopefully this time, things we go more smoothly. Keep your fingers crossed.

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ghooostie 😂 😛

I'll start thinking up some ideas for it... but i dont think i'll have much time for it 😕
Maybe i can just give some ideas

what i wrote is crap and shall remain crap. lol

good quote celest moon. lol!
so, what exactly are we doing??

hellow Every 1!
Have u been 2 the official website?
if u hav, did u get sorted? of course,
i wouldn't be here if i wasn't in gryffindor!!😖hifty:

rite....

^ have u been sorted here?

ghost2

hello ghostie!

*Takes off the invisible cloak... seats on the armshair... takes a deep breath*

Nice to be home again, the forbiden forest sometimes is rather dificult to cross.
BTW people where do we stand with our entry?
Celestial_moon I saw you said that u have writen something, would you share it with me-us? It doesn't have to be perfect, we can all help in consolidating it, we just need to start somewhere!!!

yesh CM, c;mon!!

...u may laugh if u want 2.

It is not over. A silly thing to say since I am here on the ground, nearly dying from exhaustion. Slytherin has left. We fought for hours. Spells, after spells, after spells! But I know, deep down inside, it's not the end. Slytherin is too proud. He has always been like that. He will be back. And when he does, I will stand and stare at him right in the face. And if I am dead, I will help in whatever way I can. From this battle, I have learned that it will be hard for someone do fight him. But I know that someone can do it.
"What now, Gryffindor?" I turn to see Rowena Ravenclaw. Her black hair sways with the wind, as her face is crestfallen.
"We will continue this school."
"But what about-"
"Forgot Slytherin. We do not need him." Somehow, I know that is a lie.
"But he is a founder!" Helga Hufflepuff has come to join us, I see.
"He is no longer one of us," I state shortly. Hufflepuff opens her mouth but I shoot her a glare. She closes it.
"Let's get back to the students." I pick myself up. Ravenclaw's voice stops me.
"So the feud is over?" i smile grimly. There is a deathly silence.
"No. It has just begun."