Originally posted by Insane Titan
have you even read the comic ? The curve is from the motion of the hammer traveling and stopping.He did accelerate it's shown it the comic , it was the very same way he flew around space at such great speeds.
The curve was drawn as a barrier that was stopping the hammer.
Yes that's what I'm saying. Fallen One accelerated. That means he started at speed 0 then gradually increased his speed at an average rate.
Originally posted by h1a8
You don't understand that teleporting through a portal is not the same as manipulating someone's molecules. Thor isn't destroyed and reassembled when he travels through a portal. Even so, that doesn't mean two objects can occupy the same space at the same time.
[b] I don't have to prove that he wasn't going at grade A speed. The fact that you don't know means that you can't use the showing as evidence to prove Thanos reflexes. Writer's at times write characters WITHOUT THEIR SPEED. So it is possible that Glads wasn't traveling toward Thanos at his top speeds that he shown before.
[b]
How could he cubed them up when they can defend against it or he's getting popped left and right and unable to make attack actions?
Having Thanos fight that way implies that the others can fight the way they have shown too. BRB teleports Thanos in a massive billion solar mass black hole in the center of the galaxy with just a gesture. Or quasar explodes Thanos head like he did in the IG saga. Or Gladiator fights and moves within nanoseconds (Thanos is a pure dee statue) and Thanos is defeated before he is able to make an action.[b] ABC logic doesn't work with Black Bolt because of totally different power sets. Glads is vastly stronger and faster than BB and uses his fists more. BB is more energy projection (which Thanos tanks very well). Track record is meaningless if a character is subject to PIS and is not fighting to the best of their abilities as they would in a forum fight.
He could teleport him into a boulder as easily as could telport him to the bottom of an ocean.
I don't have to prove that he wasn't moving at grade A speed. The fact that you don't know, means that you can't use the showing as evidence to disprove Thanos' reflexes. Writers often depict characters USING THEIR SPEED, when they are excited about beginning a battle with an opponent that they have always wanted to test themselves against. So it is possible that Gladiator was using his grade A speed when he tried to engage Thanos.
They can't defend against a force that would encompass their entire body, stop using imagination to replace actual capability. It has been proven several times that Thanos can react fast enough to cube up 5 characters, and smart enough to let them out one at a time, where he could easily deal with them on his terms, because we must look at the personality of the character. Unlike Gladiator who would run face first into a fist, Thanos isn't the sort that telegraphs his moves. You're problem is that you enjoy ignoring context, writers, and on panel evidence, which is where you get your examples from. Why would anyone listen to that type of nonsense? I won't be the first.
In his battle with Black Bolt he did not prove that he was vastly stronger, Again you seem to have a poor habit of ignoring the things that have occurred on panel. Gladiator has a long ways to go before he can compare to Thanos. Like I said before, track record means a lot. Would you hire a proven thief to work in a jewelry store? I wouldn't, nor would I say that a guy that gets laid out as often as Gladiator would ever defeat Thanos who rarely loses. It's not ABC logic, it's common sense.
Originally posted by JBL
I did not say he was wrong, i said that more went on than he explained. How was warrior used in that defeat of Omega?
By Thanos telling him to use his fighting spirit, that's literally it. All Warrior's spirit did was hold Warlock back with evil thoughts until Thanos told him the copy didn't have the power or clarity of the original.
Warlock separating Omega from his ship was purely attributed to the Soul Gem and Warlock's unique existence. There is no implication ever of a power up from Warrior.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftIf you say so.
By Thanos telling him to use his fighting spirit, that's literally it. All Warrior's spirit did was hold Warlock back with evil thoughts until Thanos told him the copy didn't have the power or clarity of the original.Warlock separating Omega from his ship was purely attributed to the Soul Gem and Warlock's unique existence. There is no implication ever of a power up from Warrior.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Lol at trollzu still using piss poor examples that have been debunked, you talk about pis and yet use the Spider-Man showing.
You haven't debunked a thing in this thread. I continue to post scans and explanations, while you continue to come up with the same fanboyish statements: "THANOS IS FASTEST ONE THERE IS!"
Thanos power upgrades affected his overall power set and super speed is not a part of that power set.
Imagine Eros & Captain Marvel & Spider-Man having a speed advantage over Thanos... Oh no wait, they have and they've shown it in the comics.
Now imagine Eros & Captain Marvel & Spider-Man having a speed advantage over Gladiator. Now that would be laughable, because we know that Gladiator is faster than all of these characters.
The only type of attack Thanos would ever be able to react to are insanely telegraphed attacks, where the opponents bullrush him from distance, or he sees their hands glowing and predicts an incoming attack.
And let me quote myself here real quick, because it was such a beautiful summary:
Originally posted by Enzeru
Nope, still not.
It was a writer writing a comic book battle and being lazy about it. That didn't happen for the first time. Gladiator's approach was stupid, just like every Annihilators approach was stupid. In a board battle they use their abilities to their fullest.This is what the stupid Gladiator did in his fight against Thanos... He was casually flying at Thanos, telling him he was happy to test his abilities against Thanos and then flew into a portal, which Thanos created directly in front of him:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/sp/2bc42f6fcf136c2e6fe2e69e199421c4/2.jpgNothing there indicates that Gladiator was operating at higher speed levels. But Gladiator can do that. He can speed himself up:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146296/2857086-hyperspeed35nr.jpgOther speedsters have to do the same thing - including Superman:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2247554-1725091_superman709_016.jpgIn a board battle we wouldn't have Gladiator having to say something to Thanos. By that being the case in the comic he already had to operate on slower speeds, otherwise he would have talked too fast for Thanos to understand what he wanted to say and he wouldn't have had the chance to hear what Thanos had to say to that.
In a board battle Gladiator speeds himself up, Thanos is frozen in time and then Gladiator proceeds to punch Thanos in the face with planet busting punches.There is absolutely no evidence that Thanos is capable of covering up any distance with his arm and leg movement in nano-seconds. He couldn't even tag Eros / Captain Marvel / Spider-Man.
Gladiator on the other hand has battles, where parts of his fight happened in nano-seconds:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3448655-0167538121-41613.jpg
Even more stuff that speaks against Thanos and for Gladiator in the speed department.
And all the Thanos fanboys in this thread have done NOTHING to back their boy up speed-wise. NOTHING, except throwing out fanboyish nonsense.
This is such a stomp in terms of debating.
Originally posted by Stoic
He could teleport him into a boulder as easily as could telport him to the bottom of an ocean.
Assuming he can teleport someone to the bottom of the ocean then we still have the problem of matter occupying the same space at the same time. In comics and other media, when someone teleports someone into a body of water then there is no fuzing of molecules. The water is either displaced or it disappears and the person or object is unaltered in anyway. This kills your argument.
I don't have to prove that he wasn't moving at grade A speed. The fact that you don't know, means that you can't use the showing as evidence to disprove Thanos' reflexes. Writers often depict characters USING THEIR SPEED, when they are excited about beginning a battle with an opponent that they have always wanted to test themselves against. So it is possible that Gladiator was using his grade A speed when he tried to engage Thanos.
You have to prove that Glads was moving at grade A speed in order to prove that Thanos reflexes. Writers sometimes do and don't depict characters using their speed. Although I disagree with Often, 'Often' doesn't prove a certain instance though. 'Exited' doesn't prove a character is being written with their powers at that moment. There was no evidence at all showing Glads was using super speed.
They can't defend against a force that would encompass their entire body, stop using imagination to replace actual capability. It has been proven several times that Thanos can react fast enough to cube up 5 characters, and smart enough to let them out one at a time, where he could easily deal with them on his terms, because we must look at the personality of the character. Unlike Gladiator who would run face first into a fist, Thanos isn't the sort that telegraphs his moves. You're problem is that you enjoy ignoring context, writers, and on panel evidence, which is where you get your examples from. Why would anyone listen to that type of nonsense? I won't be the first. Use your imagination. There are plenty of ways to defend against that tactic. Evasion, absorption, shields, hitting Thanos before he does it, etc. BRB's and the others reflexes are better than Thanos. So let's not assume they will just sit there and allow it without incident.
In his battle with Black Bolt he did not prove that he was vastly stronger, Again you seem to have a poor habit of ignoring the things that have occurred on panel. Gladiator has a long ways to go before he can compare to Thanos. Like I said before, track record means a lot. Would you hire a proven thief to work in a jewelry store? I wouldn't, nor would I say that a guy that gets laid out as often as Gladiator would ever defeat Thanos who rarely loses. It's not ABC logic, it's common sense.
This is irrelevant. What does track record prove when PIS exists?
We look at each fight differently. Rock, paper, scissors effect is what really happens (not ABC logic). Glads has the speed and power to fell Thanos. Using instances where Glads is not fighting to the best of his abilities doesn't prove anything. It is a form of lowballing.
Originally posted by Estacado
Its so awesome that h1 can count the exact speed Fallen One reached before Thanos stoped him.
He has no proof besides his speculation but who cares...
I didn't say what speed Fallen One went before he was stopped. I said, Fallen One started from rest (speed=0) and sped up gradually. Thanos could have reacted before Fallen One reached light speed.
Even if Fallen One reached light speed at the end of his travels (when he got blocked) then his average speed was under that AND Thanos reacted to him from afar and not from 3ft in your face kind of distance.
Originally posted by h1a8the curve was drawn as the force of the hammer travelling through the air. Because every time Thanos uses a force field or sheild it is shown via energy.
The curve was drawn as a barrier that was stopping the hammer.
Yes that's what I'm saying. Fallen One accelerated. That means he started at speed 0 then gradually increased his speed at an average rate.
Post proof of this bullshit.
Originally posted by EnzeruEros wasn't even against the real Thanos. Thanos tagged him. Mar-Vell is insanely a lightspeeder. Thanos tagged him while being at his weakest form in comics. Spider-Man is irrelevant as Spider-Man simply ran away.
You haven't debunked a thing in this thread. I continue to post scans and explanations, while you continue to come up with the same fanboyish statements: "THANOS IS FASTEST ONE THERE IS!"
Thanos power upgrades affected his overall power set and super speed is not a part of that power set.Imagine Eros & Captain Marvel & Spider-Man having a speed advantage over Thanos... Oh no wait, they have and they've shown it in the comics.
Now imagine Eros & Captain Marvel & Spider-Man having a speed advantage over Gladiator. Now that would be laughable, because we know that Gladiator is faster than all of these characters.The only type of attack Thanos would ever be able to react to are insanely telegraphed attacks, where the opponents bullrush him from distance, or he sees their hands glowing and predicts an incoming attack.
And let me quote myself here real quick, because it was such a beautiful summary:
Even more stuff that speaks against Thanos and for Gladiator in the speed department.
And all the Thanos fanboys in this thread have done NOTHING to back their boy up speed-wise. NOTHING, except throwing out fanboyish nonsense.This is such a stomp in terms of debating.
If you want to play that game, you might as well speak of Gambit vs Gladiator. Or many many many examples. In fact, I can post a bunch of failed blitzes from Gladiator. In fact, if you want to go into the Thanos lowballing game, then I can post Gladiator's entire history.
Not to mention, Thanos tagged Ganymede who blitzed Surfer. He tagged Surfer out of midair with the speed lines. Tagged Jack of Hearts. The Fallen One example:
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Here's Thanos vs hundreds of Death's Legion showing hand speed:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-11.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-13.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-16.jpgAlhough about Fallen One. Here is how he always takes off.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos11pg10.jpgTeleportation falls far short, and hyperdrive would take up too much time:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg07.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg08.jpgAnd then of course Fallen One making said distance in a very short amount of time. In what at the most three pages of conversation?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg09.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg13.jpgThanos raised him arm and stopped him point blank, so naturally Fallen One is slow.
And others of course, though that should be enough to prove he can hit ****ing Gladiator.
Not to mention that you'd be hardpressed to find an example of Gladiator successfully speedblitzing without getting hit, and with taking out his opponent.
I realize this isn't about Gladiator, but rather Sentry is 2 quick 2 blak for Thanos, but if you're going to pretend, you might as well back up Gladiator.
Anyway, just a couple of Gladiator's failed blitzes.
Wonderman reacts to his superspeed:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-08.jpg
Masterson:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-13.jpg
Masterson turns on Gladiator using superspeed from behind:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-16.jpg
Black Cloak reacts to Gladiator completely furious:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/WoK05-014.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/WoK05-016.jpg
Havok tags a speeding Gladiator:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/War-of-Kings-03-pg--15.jpg
Even in one of Gladiator's best showings, he gets tagged doing his bullrush:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/UncannyX-Men480-22.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/UncannyX-Men480-23.jpg
Using Superspeed against the Eldest:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/X-MenEmperorVulcan02pg009.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/X-MenEmperorVulcan02pg010.jpg
And here's a good one. Gladiator moving too fast for Torch to see still manages to not KO Torch with that punch. Which pretty much sums up almost every Gladiator blitz. Sure he moves fast, but it's largely ineffectual to vastly lesser beings. Oh yeah, same comic he went 100 times lightspeed too.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/FF249_21.jpg
Could use more examples, but that suffices. Basically, Gladiator's bullrush speedblitzes are in no way enough to be 2 quick for Thanos. He has been tagged by less trying it, and that's from a small number of comics looked through.
If people want to prove Gladiator is too fast for Thanos, then prove it using Gladiator's speed showings. Go ahead.
Also, your Gladiator scan of him speeding himself up isn't even canon to 616 Gladiator, nor is the Superman one... I'm sure Thor volume 2 would help your case if you want to go that route.
Anyway, about the stupid shit about Gladiator being faster than Ganymede.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_16a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_16b.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_17a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_02b.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_03a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_03b.jpg
Gladiator doesn't have a combat speed showing that good.
Now, she tries the same tricks with Thanos:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-6-Tyrant23.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-6-Tyrant24.jpg
Which doesn't count apparently because she flew right at him like she did to Surfer? Which is exactly what Gladiator does? That doesn't count.
As well as Mar-Vell came out of nowhere to surprise Thanos. As did Eros (though again a clone). Gladiator isn't going to get that benefit. Anyway the battle starts Thanos will be facing him, and Gladiator will have no element of surprise.
And considering all he does is bullrush and the fastest way to an object is a straight line? Well golly, let's not put two and two together here.
Thanos is not a fast mover (though he had the speed blurs during the BB fight), which speaking of, BB came out of nowhere and surprised Gladiator who was previously doing the same to the Inhumans/Kree, and then wrassled him down. However, Thanos has more than enough reactions to react to Gladiator. Pretty easily too.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And others of course, though that should be enough to prove he can hit ****ing Gladiator.
It doesn't matter, who he tagged, since this is not a comic book fight, where PIS and WIS affect the outcome of a fight. As if writers take into consideration, what the characters are truly capable of. AS IF WRITERS EVEN KNOW what some characters are truly capable of.
It also doesn't matter, who Hulk tagged. In a board battle Hulk loses to Superman 10 out of 10, because he can't keep up with the speed.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I realize this isn't about Gladiator, but rather Sentry is 2 quick 2 blak for Thanos, but if you're going to pretend, you might as well back up Gladiator.
Sentry isn't even in this battle, so I don't even care about him right now.
If he was in the fight, then he would straight up beat Thanos.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Anyway, just a couple of Gladiator's failed blitzes.
You know what's funny about that? Thanos wouldn't even come close to that portrayal of traveling and movement speed.
You know what else is funny? Gladiator was not operating on the speeds he can operate on judging by his feats in the comics.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
If people want to prove Gladiator is too fast for Thanos, then prove it using Gladiator's speed showings. Go ahead.
Already did and they dwarf absolutely everything Thanos can do in a board battle.
Your only argument right now is based on the way comics are written, but the way comics are written doesn't really matter, when it comes to board battles.
If this was not about your favorite character participating in the fight, then you would use the exact same argument to stop a fanboy from digging deeper and deeper to come up with weird statements and make arguments for an actually believable board battle.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Also, your Gladiator scan of him speeding himself up isn't even canon to 616 Gladiator, nor is the Superman one... I'm sure Thor volume 2 would help your case if you want to go that route.
The only non-canon thingy I know of is Young Gladiators fight against Masterson, which you posted BTW to make an argument for Gladiator not being fast.
The Superman scan is from Superman: Grounded, if I'm not all too wrong, which happened shortly before the Flashpoint story. No clue why that shouldn't be canon.
Originally posted by EnzeruSo basically you have literally no proof but how you feel the comics should be written? Concession accepted.
It doesn't matter, who he tagged, since this is not a comic book fight, where PIS and WIS affect the outcome of a fight. As if writers take into consideration, what the characters are truly capable of. AS IF WRITERS EVEN KNOW what some characters are truly capable of.It also doesn't matter, who Hulk tagged. In a board battle Hulk loses to Superman 10 out of 10, because he can't keep up with the speed.
Sentry isn't even in this battle, so I don't even care about him right now.
If he was in the fight, then he would straight up beat Thanos.You know what's funny about that? Thanos wouldn't even come close to that portrayal of traveling and movement speed.
You know what else is funny? Gladiator was not operating on the speeds he can operate on judging by his feats in the comics.Already did and they dwarf absolutely everything Thanos can do in a board battle.
Your only argument right now is based on the way comics are written, but the way comics are written doesn't really matter, when it comes to board battles.If this was not about your favorite character participating in the fight, then you would use the exact same argument to stop a fanboy from digging deeper and deeper to come up with weird statements and make arguments for an actually believable board battle.
The only non-canon thingy I know of is Young Gladiators fight against Masterson, which you posted BTW to make an argument for Gladiator not being fast.
The Superman scan is from Superman: Grounded, if I'm not all too wrong, which happened shortly before the Flashpoint story. No clue why that shouldn't be canon.
Considering you previously stated that you think Sentry beats Thanos due to overwhelming speed, I think we all know your intention here.
Thanos doesn't have to travel or move faster than Gladiator though. That's a misdirection. All Thanos has to do is react to Gladiator. Which as you've proven, you have nothing to go against that outside of cries of "PIS AND WIS DAWG!"
Then repost. Show Gladiator finishing a capable opponent with speed. Show Gladiator blitzing a capable opponent.
"Your only argument right now is based on the way comics are written, but the way comics are written doesn't really matter, when it comes to board battles."
lol what? So my argument is using feats from comics, but that doesn't count on a forum battle because magically what happens in comics is thrown away or something? Is this another "Only handbooks count" argument or something?
Though I fail to see how this "logic" isn't applicable to you considering you were using the way comics were written to try and prove Thanos had no reactions. 😕
I don't think I would ever try and stop someone from using feats from comics in a decent quantity by declaring "PIS" and this being my sole argument. You want to quote me actually where I did that?
You're outright ignoring Thanos' feats, and Gladiator's in favor of how you feel battles should go. Thanos is slow because... every one of his speed feats are PIS. Gladiator is too fast because... every one of his speed feats are also PIS?
I don't get how you believe this is acceptable logic.
But yeah, I don't like it it didn't happen. Now watch my tears drown you in a pit of sorror.
Gladiator from Masterson's fight was the exact same Gladiator who fought Hyperion from the Galactic Storm series. You don't know what you're talking about.
Gladiator with the hyper senses was from the reality that Galactus was feeding on and effectively slowing down time. That universe was erased.
And Superman isn't canon to Gladiator is what I was saying. If your only (canon) point to Gladiator is that Superman did it, then you might as well give up now. Though considering your Superman hate, it's cute you used that.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeI was unaware Superman's history was canon to Gladiator. I guess I should bump a Superman vs Gladiator thread to see what comes out of this new information.
Superman Grounded is canon. And are people really thinking Thanos is as fast or faster than Glads? facepalm
No one has ever said Thanos is as fast as Gladiator. Reading what you want. I'm saying Thanos is more than fast enough in reactions to deal with Gladiator.
Which he is, as proven by feats, and Gladiator's shortcomings in that area.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftReading comprehension.
Also, your Gladiator scan of him speeding himself up isn't even canon to 616 Gladiator, nor is the Superman one...
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Thanos' feats don't count though.
I don't get it. We're supposed to use to the best of their abilities, but still in character.The idea that Thanos will not be able to react to some of Gladiator's attacks is comical.
It's all PIS and WIS. Really, this battle is comparable to Hulk vs Superman because Thanos is apparently just a dumb brick. Wait, I'm confused, are all of Thanos' powers also PIS and WIS?
Also, any Gladiator feat is to be scaled up I guess. And he has no shortcomings in speed in that area... especially once we scale literally every combat showing up.
Also, people are seriously arguing for Gladiator in this thread. That's to be the new in. Because Gladiator has never even beaten a high herald, but I like the way his handbook entry looks.
Originally posted by EnzeruI was going to fully respond to this post but I don't have too as bran has done the job for me with ease.
You haven't debunked a thing in this thread. I continue to post scans and explanations, while you continue to come up with the same fanboyish statements: "THANOS IS FASTEST ONE THERE IS!"
Thanos power upgrades affected his overall power set and super speed is not a part of that power set.Imagine Eros & Captain Marvel & Spider-Man having a speed advantage over Thanos... Oh no wait, they have and they've shown it in the comics.
Now imagine Eros & Captain Marvel & Spider-Man having a speed advantage over Gladiator. Now that would be laughable, because we know that Gladiator is faster than all of these characters.The only type of attack Thanos would ever be able to react to are insanely telegraphed attacks, where the opponents bullrush him from distance, or he sees their hands glowing and predicts an incoming attack.
And let me quote myself here real quick, because it was such a beautiful summary:
Even more stuff that speaks against Thanos and for Gladiator in the speed department.
And all the Thanos fanboys in this thread have done NOTHING to back their boy up speed-wise. NOTHING, except throwing out fanboyish nonsense.This is such a stomp in terms of debating.
Your desperation shows using proof of a weakend Thanos and a clone, plus you completely ignore Thanos upgrade in which he could tag faster people than he could before his upgrade.
Originally posted by Branlor Swiftgood job completely raping the Gladiator speed nonsense.
Thanos' feats don't count though.It's all PIS and WIS. Really, this battle is comparable to Hulk vs Superman because Thanos is apparently just a dumb brick. Wait, I'm confused, are all of Thanos' powers also PIS and WIS?
Also, any Gladiator feat is to be scaled up I guess. And he has no shortcomings in speed in that area... especially once we scale literally every combat showing up.
Also, people are seriously arguing for Gladiator in this thread. That's to be the new in. Because Gladiator has never even beaten a high herald, but I like the way his handbook entry looks.
