Originally posted by JBLAnd Thanos' DNA made Galactus twice as powerful apparently.
Who needs feats when that clone was designed by Thanos to test gladiator in case he were to become a ally or foe of thanos? Gladiators dna made that clone 4 times stronger than Thanos on panel and clear as day.
Which if we follow your logic, Gladiator is stronger than Thanos while Thanos is more powerful than Galactus.
Because naturally dna splicing along with technology enhancements and the like is the way you prove things definitively.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftHow did they defeat Omega?
And Thanos' DNA made Galactus twice as powerful apparently.Which if we follow your logic, Gladiator is stronger than Thanos while Thanos is more powerful than Galactus.
Because naturally dna splicing along with technology enhancements and the like is the way you prove things definitively.
Originally posted by JBLIf your endgame here is to prove that Omega wasn't more powerful than Galactus based on feats, then you may want to turn your attention to Warrior. Who wasn't stronger than Thanos based on feats.
How did they defeat Omega?
And if you're trying to prove it based on feats, then you may want to use more than statements to say Gladiator is stronger than Thanos.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftAnswer the question. How did they defeat Omega?
If your endgame here is to prove that Omega wasn't more powerful than Galactus based on feats, then you may want to turn your attention to Warrior. Who wasn't stronger than Thanos based on feats.And if you're trying to prove it based on feats, then you may want to use more than statements to say Gladiator is stronger than Thanos.
Originally posted by Insane TitanField not shield.
and you can prove Fallen One doesn't reach light speed like that, don't try using RL physics as it doesn't apply here. Thanos used tk stop the hammer stop lying, if it was a sheild the hammer would of bounced off it not just dropped dead.He reacted to both Ganymede and Jack of hearts who both were stood only a few feet away.
No one reaches speed instantly (without acceleration) like that. It has nothing to do with RL physics but common sense and logic. That is my proof that Fallen One doesn't. You have to prove that he does. Otherwise, then at best then you must agree that you don't know.
Originally posted by Stoic
It is still a destination. A boulder is also a destination. He would not do this in a comic against a prominent character because of financial reasons. This should be very easy for anyone to realize. What you have to come to realize is that Gladiator was helpless in that situation, and was sent to where Thanos willed him to go. This could have been inside a boulder, or any other object that would have fused his molecules to it, and effectively killed him. Look in the mirror, and say that Gladiator was helpless, because he was.
I don't have to prove that he wasn't going at grade A speed. The fact that you don't know means that you can't use the showing as evidence to prove Thanos reflexes. Writer's at times write characters WITHOUT THEIR SPEED. So it is possible that Glads wasn't traveling toward Thanos at his top speeds that he shown before.That's right we don't know how fast he was going, so you can not prove that he was not using grade A speed. We do know that he was excited by the idea of testing his power against Thanos, so we know that he was not taking his time to reach him. Thanos was simply fast enough to send him to the outermost reaches of space. Again that is also a destination, just like the boulder or the core of a planet would also be a destination.
The Annihilators fought him separately because for one Ikon was already dealt with, and Ronan was hesitant because he feared the Pimp Hand. Quasar would have been cubed up. In fact Thanos showed the speed in that conflict that he could have trapped them all in cubes, and let them out one at a time. He did not do this, because as context suggested, he wanted to test himself against them. He fought the fight the way that he deemed fit, and there was not one instance that he was not in control of that entire team. I won't say anything that was not on panel, but Thanos stomped them, and he did it with ease. Again, he could have cubed them all up, and defeated him with ease, if you want to change the situation up. Instead of sending Gladiator away, he could have placed him in a cube.
Besides the comment that Thanos made, it does not somehow offset the track record that Gladiator has had in the past, and he is not on the level that he would win against Thanos. He could have made things more difficult, if Thanos allowed him to stay, but that only means that he would be fighting Gladiator, and Beta Ray Bill at the same time (hefty duo for many characters TBH). He chose to keep the advantage on his side of the field, and thus sent Gladiator away. Like I said Gladiator has fought evenly against Black Bolt, and Thanos stomped Black Bolt. In this case ABC logic is more credible than your claims of Gladiator's superiority over Thanos. We have to look at track record, because I would never hire a person that stole from nearly every person that they worked for, nor would I choose a guy that gets beaten so often, over a guy that rarely ever loses, and becomes the supreme being on most of his outings. ABC logic doesn't work with Black Bolt because of totally different power sets. Glads is vastly stronger and faster than BB and uses his fists more. BB is more energy projection (which Thanos tanks very well). Track record is meaningless if a character is subject to PIS and is not fighting to the best of their abilities as they would in a forum fight.
Originally posted by h1a8have you even read the comic ? The curve is from the motion of the hammer traveling and stopping.
Field not shield.
You see the field as a curve drawn.No one reaches speed instantly (without acceleration) like that. It has nothing to do with RL physics but common sense and logic. That is my proof that Fallen One doesn't. You have to prove that he does. Otherwise, then at best then you must agree that you don't know.
He did accelerate it's shown it the comic , it was the very same way he flew around space at such great speeds.
Originally posted by Insane TitanHow do you know that Warlocks assumption was wrong? I don't know about any mods ruling but ruling against certain statements that are in comics and Marvels data base is strange.
that was Adam Warlocks assumption , which was wrong and even the mods ruled on this subject.
Originally posted by Stoic
If he would be frozen in battle in a battle with Gladiator, he would never have been able to teleport him away. He would have been too slow. You can't simply disregard the comics that you see these feats. and characters in to prove that Gladiator would blitz him uncontested, when he was not able to do so on panel. What this means is that Thanos is fast enough to shut down a speedsters entire game plan. He has shown this ability several times.
Nope, still not.
It was a writer writing a comic book battle and being lazy about it. That didn't happen for the first time. Gladiator's approach was stupid, just like every Annihilators approach was stupid. In a board battle they use their abilities to their fullest.
This is what the stupid Gladiator did in his fight against Thanos... He was casually flying at Thanos, telling him he was happy to test his abilities against Thanos and then flew into a portal, which Thanos created directly in front of him:
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Nothing there indicates that Gladiator was operating at higher speed levels. But Gladiator can do that. He can speed himself up:
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Other speedsters have to do the same thing - including Superman:
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In a board battle we wouldn't have Gladiator having to say something to Thanos. By that being the case in the comic he already had to operate on slower speeds, otherwise he would have talked too fast for Thanos to understand what he wanted to say and he wouldn't have had the chance to hear what Thanos had to say to that.
In a board battle Gladiator speeds himself up, Thanos is frozen in time and then Gladiator proceeds to punch Thanos in the face with planet busting punches.
There is absolutely no evidence that Thanos is capable of covering up any distance with his arm and leg movement in nano-seconds. He couldn't even tag Eros / Captain Marvel / Spider-Man.
Gladiator on the other hand has battles, where parts of his fight happened in nano-seconds:
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Originally posted by JBLwarlock gauged the strength of the clone from it's punches, yet Warlock has never been punched by Thanos to feel his strength.
How do you know that Warlocks assumption was wrong? I don't know about any mods ruling but ruling against certain statements that are in comics and Marvels data base is strange.
Plus the clone was supposedly 4x as strong , Warlock took more punches than what it did for Thanos to kill Surfer, Warlock isn't that durable.
The mods ruled against it(PR) because the sheer baseless facts if it.
