Originally posted by StoicI rebutted the feat a long time ago. I saw nearly all Thanos feats before.
Backhands Maker's blast.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...hanos10pg18.jpgThis is pretty much all that anyone with a brain would need to realize, in order to see that Thanos can react to speedsters. How fast does energy travel? Bran I believe that most people would or should agree that this shuts down every one of h1's arguments on the subject. He wasn't even able to come up with a decent rebuttal to it, and likely took an hour to plot a deceitful means of discrediting the feat.
Do we accept all energy going faster than light?
Let's assume we do.
Then the feat does show super human speed and reflexes. The problem is telegraphing by pointing before blasting, and the blast wasn't up at close range (like a punch).
Originally posted by Branlor Swiftyes that's what it boils down to, and the fact of how fast Gladiator can actually travel. Reflexes and speed together. Gladiator has blitzed a few times, faster than what it seems Thanos can respond to.
So basically, you don't think Gladiator can win, but you will still continue arguing for Gladiator nonetheless to a point where you believe Thanos can't even tag Gladiator?Anyway, I trust you're not talking about me when you're speaking of the spinning angle, because the only spinning I see...
But it doesn't matter if Gladiator lacks any blitzing feats of consequence even when he blitzes a decent amount because it said nanosecond about him once, which is less times than it's said about Silver Surfer.
Among other things.Can you offer any proof in conjuncture of the nanosecond feat of Gladiator successfully blitzing Thanos?
It also doesn't help that in the same month he was nanoseconds quick he almost got knocked out by normal Dick Rider absorbing and redirecting his HV energy. Or that it took several seconds to get to Hyperion in the same page. Which speaks well for him getting close to Thanos.
That under the same writer right after he beat Hyperion that BB calmly flew up, wrapped his hands around Glad's ear, and whispered in it. That Hyperion in the same month almost got knocked out by Captain Marvel. That in the same month Quasar was able to trap him in his bands for a couple pages which he should have seen coming.
All of that except the Nova example were under the same writer. And the Nova example was referenced in those issues.He has the worst nanosecond reactions of all time.
I have no problem with people saying that Gladiator can hit Thanos. But when it goes overboard like "Thanos can't hit him at all because... uh... nanoseconds!", it's time to stop ignoring the proof. I'm not arguing that Thanos is unhittable here. But considering Thanos' feats are more than enough to deal with Gladiator's speed, it's utterly retarded to say Gladiator is untouchable. Especially considering the way Gladiator fights. And it doesn't help that no one can even offer an example of Gladiator blitzing anyone and tie it to this fight. All it is is him reacting to Hyperion's punch via blocking.
This thread is giving me a tumor.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So basically, you don't think Gladiator can win, but you will still continue arguing for Gladiator nonetheless to a point where you believe Thanos can't even tag Gladiator?
If this were a CIS battle it is reasonable to think Speed kills, to give a good example of this think Movie Magneto vs Quicksilver, I believe Magneto should be more powerful, but I also believe that Magneto will not be able to react to Quicksilver.
Gladiator like I said before is a character made to loose, his character is just like that it does not matter how good of stats he might have, he will most likely loose regardless if he faces Gambit, Cannonball or someone else, is LIKELY he will loose in a CIS / PIS dictated story
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Anyway, I trust you're not talking about me when you're speaking of the spinning angle, because the only spinning I see...
Nope, I was talking about IT and anyone who might want us to think that Thanos posses nanosecond reaction time
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
But it doesn't matter if Gladiator lacks any blitzing feats of consequence even when he blitzes a decent amount because it said nanosecond about him once, which is less times than it's said about Silver Surfer.
Among other things.Can you offer any proof in conjuncture of the nanosecond feat of Gladiator successfully blitzing Thanos?
It also doesn't help that in the same month he was nanoseconds quick he almost got knocked out by normal Dick Rider absorbing and redirecting his HV energy. Or that it took several seconds to get to Hyperion in the same page. Which speaks well for him getting close to Thanos.
That under the same writer right after he beat Hyperion that BB calmly flew up, wrapped his hands around Glad's ear, and whispered in it. That Hyperion in the same month almost got knocked out by Captain Marvel. That in the same month Quasar was able to trap him in his bands for a couple pages which he should have seen coming.
All of that except the Nova example were under the same writer. And the Nova example was referenced in those issues.He has the worst nanosecond reactions of all time.
I believe this is easily explained by one of the forum rules
"No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman."
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I have no problem with people saying that Gladiator can hit Thanos. But when it goes overboard like "Thanos can't hit him at all because... uh... nanoseconds!", it's time to stop ignoring the proof. I'm not arguing that Thanos is unhittable here. But considering Thanos' feats are more than enough to deal with Gladiator's speed, it's utterly retarded to say Gladiator is untouchable. Especially considering the way Gladiator fights. And it doesn't help that no one can even offer an example of Gladiator blitzing anyone and tie it to this fight. All it is is him reacting to Hyperion's punch via blocking.This thread is giving me a tumor.
I agree when it comes down to Gladiator he is a dum dum when he fights and it does not help that He is a CLONE of Superman in the enemy camp.
But lets say for a moment that YOU had nanosecond reflexes and perceptions, that you normally would not use in a regular setting, for what ever reason that might be. You will perceive anything in normal time, but the moment you decided to let you "CIS OFF" (I don't mean this as an insult, just could not find the proper term to use) everything around you will be moving in slow motion, the things you could not do before will be possible now and if you were fighting with someone whose perceptions are below you in terms of speed, I believe, that person couldn't do anything to stop you.
24 pages and people are still arguing the same speed topic, lol.
Here is what one of Marvel's main editors has to say on such a topic:
http://brevoortformspring.tumblr.com/post/95188298878/tom-i-remember-a-story-where-nick-fury-send-thor-to
Source: Tom Brevoort TumblrQuestion: Tom, i remember a story where Nick Fury send Thor to find a spaceship who was at 3 times the speed of light (Beta bill). In that issue, Thor was able to perceive the ship moving at this speed. How is that even possible if he cant even react before quicksilver or speed demon (who barely has supersponic speed) move?
Answer: There is a difference between traveling interdimensionally and on an interplanetary scale and quickness of action, as when you are in a fight. It’s not the same thing. Thor is in no way a super-speedster. He’s only a God.
The same applies for Thanos, fanboys.
No way in hell Thanos would EVER tag Gladiator in a properly written comic. His only way to win would be to find a way around the speed to deal with him and the nonsensical BFR in Infinity: R. was not a proper way, because Gladiator was once again portrayed as slower than he should be.
Source: Tom Brevoort TumblrQuestion: How does Thor's speed and reflexes compare to someone like Quicksilver and/or Speed Demon?
Answer: They are not as fast, nowhere near. You are no doubt conflating Thor’s ability to travel great distances via his hammer and its space-warping capabilities with land speed, with combat speed. But they’re not the same thing. In a race, Quicksilver or Speed Demon would be to the finish line practically before Thor started to run.
Translation: Gladiator would punch Thanos 100 times in the face, before Thanos got the chance to move a finger.
Originally posted by Enzerutranslation= nothing in reference to Thanos.
[b]Translation: Gladiator would punch Thanos 100 times in the face, before Thanos got the chance to move a finger. [/B]
Just face it sad little boy Thanos would react to Gladiatior before he could land enough punches to do any damage.
Why not ask Tom b if Gladiator can actually beat Thanos, then post his answer.
Originally posted by BadabingGladiator was never there so they only battled once. Thanos got him angry because when he got back Thanos was gone. Thanos with the time gem already knew this as well. Thanos doubly wins.
Then they tied last time. Thanos BFR'd Glads. Then Thanos imposed a self BFR and fled. Advantage: Gladiator. clapclap
Originally posted by quanchi112Thanos hid then ran. At least he was smart about things. Otherwise he would have been thrashed, as suggested on panel. 👆
Gladiator was never there so they only battled once. Thanos got him angry because when he got back Thanos was gone. Thanos with the time gem already knew this as well. Thanos doubly wins.
Originally posted by EstacadoYou get thrashed! sneer
Gladiator is a chump who gets thrashed by Black Dwarf.
