Originally posted by h1a8
Glads avoids or evades the blast easily. Remember his reactions are even better than Thanos.
Idiot... how can you claim to be so logical when you can't pull your head out of your ass for 2 seconds. Take boxing for example Whitaker was VASTLY superior in speed and reflexes to Ramirez.. That didn't stop Ramirez from being able to hit Whitaker. Just because you have faster reflexes doesn't mean you can evade every punch or blast. Doesn't work that way. Just because somebody has superior speed or reflexes doesn't mean they'll just avoid everything thrown their way... What type of idiotic thinking is this. Thanos isn't some human with human reflexes.. He's from a vastly more advanced race of people who can TP.. TK.. teleport.. Matter Manipulate etc etc... not to mention all the tech he has. You somehow think he perceives things the same way as humans.. he doesn't.
Lastly, in a forum battle... Glads and Thanos will be facing each other READY TO FIGHT. So when Glads goes to attack it will be telegraphed just the same moron. Thanos will know he's going to attack and be ready. in comic books the element of surprise if much more real than in a forum fight. IN a comic book they could be talking and then one decides to punch the other which he wasn't expected. Here, Thanos knows he's about to get into a fight and knows Glads will try and rush him... you think he wont' be able to react? Please.
So anyway, here's a sample of some Thanos scans. I'll get to the big two, which are the most relevant at the end. I'd look for more, and know there's quite a bit more, but there's no need.
Thanos reacts to his clone trying to cheapshot him. Also the dreaded speed lines in the tackle.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/10iw.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/11iw.jpg
Thanos reacts to Odin throwing rocks at his back at a high speed. Even moreso when you think of it considering Odin blasted Thanos to no effect prior. Obviously he would throw these rocks at a slow speed to damage Thanos:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/26iw.jpg
Raises his hand to stop Thor's hammer (with a forcefield or without, it doesn't matter) when Thor is trying to kill Thanos. Naturally this would come at a slow speed considering Thor's prior dealings with the Thanos clone trying to end the universe and tanking his blows.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CaptainMarvelv3017-03.jpg
Reacts to Surfer using a degree of speed to bullrush Thanos:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_23_Image_0001.jpg
Blasts JoH and is on him before he realizes what's going on:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-3-Jackofh-24.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-3-Jackofh-25.jpg
Reacts to JoH' bullrush:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-5-Morg-33.jpg
Shows a degree of superspeed rushing Black Bolt:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Infinity004-014.jpg
Reacts to Thor about a couple feet away trying to cheapshot him when his body is faced in the complete opposite direction:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Infinity006-022.jpg
Literally reacts to Gladiator using his speed to try and attack Thanos. This is highly relevant considering the way Gladiator "blitzes". Which I will repost later:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos-TheInfinityRevelation-049.jpg
Reacts to Beta's hammer toss. The hammer appears not to have gained any ground in the time between Thanos' hand being all the way down and his hand being up and stopping the hammer completely:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos-TheInfinityRevelation-051.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos-TheInfinityRevelation-052.jpg
Some "humor" Skreet taggings.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg07.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg14.jpg
Catches Skreet being blasted back at a seemingly high speed from Maker:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg17.jpg
Snatches Skreet out of the air after she surprises Fallen One. Though she was still going pretty fast, and was about to attack again.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg18.jpg
Backhands Maker's blast.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg18.jpg
Grabs a rock when it's an arm length from the back of his head:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/WarlockInfinityWatch008-10.jpg
Here's Thanos vs hundreds of Death's Legion showing hand speed:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-11.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-13.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-16.jpg
Dodges an assassination attempt:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelHolidaySpecial1993-61.jpg
Snatches Moondragon out of the air:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/ann_04_021.jpg
What does Guy say about Moondragon's speed?
Originally posted by guy222
And what about Mantis' speed?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_004_15b.jpg
And I use this because of Carver's infatuation with this thread and Hulk. Smacks a speeding Hulk out of the air:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Infinity006-014.jpg
What does Carver say about Hulk's speed?
Carvdog
Also, I think this belongs here.http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12010.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12011.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12013.jpg
Now, onto Ganymede.
Anyway, about the stupid shit about Gladiator being faster than Ganymede.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_16a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_16b.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_17a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_02b.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_03a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_03b.jpg
Gladiator doesn't have a combat speed showing that good.
Now, she tries the same tricks with Thanos:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-6-Tyrant23.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-6-Tyrant24.jpg
Which doesn't count apparently because she flew right at him like she did to Surfer? Which is exactly what Gladiator does? That doesn't count.
Her blitzing robots:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_081_11a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_081_11b.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_082_15a.jpg
But for whatever reason she is perceived as slow? Why? Because Thanos tagged her? She rushed at Thanos the exact way she started these blitzes, but we're to assume she went slower because Thanos or something?
And the Fallen One:
Here is how he always takes off.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos11pg10.jpg
Teleportation falls far short, and hyperdrive would take up too much time:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg07.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg08.jpg
And then of course Fallen One making said distance in a very short amount of time. In what at the most three pages of conversation?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg09.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg13.jpg
Thanos raised him arm and stopped him point blank, so naturally Fallen One is slow.
And here's another example of him taking off. Notice he's basically gone in the same panel he takes off. Which happened everytime.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos11pg24.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg02.jpg
So keeping consistent, we believe he was acting at that speed every single time, but he suddenly slowed down to take down Thanos? What kind of belief is that?
Also, I might as well post Thanos stopping him when Fallen One is completely pissed off:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg16.jpg
The only conclusion to get from this is that he was moving at an incredible speed. That's it. There's nothing less. And his speed was without a doubt shown as faster than Gladiator's in this comic, so...
Anyway, a couple scans are missing. A good addition would be the Champion fight, who Thanos made look like a fool. Of course Champion has tagged Mantis and completely made a fool of Gladiator, but I don't feel the need to show it. If someone wants to of course...
Now, onto Gladiator's supergreat blitzes. Not that he's slow, but he's more than capable of being tagged by Thanos considering the amount he's been tagged by people either on his reflex level or lower.
Anyway, just a couple of Gladiator's failed blitzes.
Wonderman reacts to his superspeed:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-08.jpg
Masterson:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-13.jpg
Masterson turns on Gladiator using superspeed from behind:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Thor_445-16.jpg
Black Cloak reacts to Gladiator completely furious:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/WoK05-014.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/WoK05-016.jpg
Havok tags a speeding Gladiator:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/War-of-Kings-03-pg--15.jpg
Even in one of Gladiator's best showings, he gets tagged doing his bullrush:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/UncannyX-Men480-22.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/UncannyX-Men480-23.jpg
Using Superspeed against the Eldest:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/X-MenEmperorVulcan02pg009.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/X-MenEmperorVulcan02pg010.jpg
And here's a good one. Gladiator moving too fast for Torch to see still manages to not KO Torch with that punch. Which pretty much sums up almost every Gladiator blitz. Sure he moves fast, but it's largely ineffectual to vastly lesser beings. Oh yeah, same comic he went 100 times lightspeed too.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/FF249_21.jpg
Could use more examples, but that suffices. Basically, Gladiator's bullrush speedblitzes are in no way enough to be 2 quick for Thanos. He has been tagged by less trying it, and that's from a small number of comics looked through.
If people want to prove Gladiator is too fast for Thanos, then prove it using Gladiator's speed showings. Go ahead.
Another interesting point, is that in some of those same issues are the proof used for Gladiator's great speed.
But why oh why is this an issue? No one besides Carver has even shown a successful Gladiator blitz, and that was against a bunch of slow people. Even if Gladiator does blitz him for whatever reason, Thanos is more than capable of reacting to it and tanking the others. As evidenced by so so sooooo many other people doing it.
Could go more in depth, but considering the COMPLETELY REAL GLADIATOR FANS can't even look at a comic to defend Gladiator, there's literally no need. Which is why this isn't directed at anyone in particular considering it's all the same shit.
Carver is literally the only person who has brought forth any proof of Gladiator's speed, and that was more of a passing thing that meant nothing. Carver.
Now considering this is the most butt****ing retarded thread on the forum at this moment, I guess this would mostly be directed towards Thanos fans so they have something to combat it. I'd argue with people but honestly... 😬
With that said Thanos wins easily 10/10. I can see why this thread went in the direction of Gladiator's non advantage that could somehow be construed into an advantage considering that's literally all he has. If someone wants to get into raw power, I can supply Insane Titan with some proof so he can go on an angry rampage if they want. 🙂
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Idiot... how can you claim to be so logical when you can't pull your head out of your ass for 2 seconds. Take boxing for example Whitaker was VASTLY superior in speed and reflexes to Ramirez.. That didn't stop Ramirez from being able to hit Whitaker. Just because you have faster reflexes doesn't mean you can evade every punch or blast. Doesn't work that way. Just because somebody has superior speed or reflexes doesn't mean they'll just avoid everything thrown their way... What type of idiotic thinking is this. Thanos isn't some human with human reflexes.. He's from a vastly more advanced race of people who can TP.. TK.. teleport.. Matter Manipulate etc etc... not to mention all the tech he has. You somehow think he perceives things the same way as humans.. he doesn't.Lastly, in a forum battle... Glads and Thanos will be facing each other READY TO FIGHT. So when Glads goes to attack it will be telegraphed just the same moron. Thanos will know he's going to attack and be ready. in comic books the element of surprise if much more real than in a forum fight. IN a comic book they could be talking and then one decides to punch the other which he wasn't expected. Here, Thanos knows he's about to get into a fight and knows Glads will try and rush him... you think he wont' be able to react? Please.
Wow! Where do I start?
Ok, you are equating boxing (dodging attacks from close range) to dodging projectiles (from afar). Those are two different things. Then you are talking about beings whose speed and reflexes are VERY close to each other (humans).
Thanos can't move at light speed nor can he attack anywhere close to that. That means Glads can easily respond to most of his attacks (if not all). Even if Glads can't dodge all of Thanos attacks doesn't mean he is going to get hit by the first or second attack. Thanos might get one attack out before Glads closes the distance.
Note: I could be anal and say Glads flies towards Thanos at top speed the beginning of the round, and if he sees Thanos arm raising then he responds and easily avoids the attack. And thus successfully blitzes Thanos once the attack misses.
I didn't say Glads is going to bullrush Thanos. I said, he is going to close the distance and engage in fisticuffs. Now Glads can close the distance fast or slow, it doesn't matter. What matters is that Glads is watching Thanos carefully as he closes the distance (in order to respond to any attacks and such). Once the distance is closed then Thanos would be at a great disadvantage as he has never proven to respond to ftl speed attacks from 3ft or closer.
I have no problem with people believing Thanos can defeat Gladiator, after all Gladiator is a chump of the highest order, he is like a promising team with all the stars of the NFL who can't seem to win a single game, pretty much a disappointment.
Where I have the problem is with the suggesting that Thanos has some sort of nanosecond reaction time. Thanos while He should be faster than Humans on his reflexes, he is no where near Quicksilver or Spiderman's reflexes and this is what I have the problem with.
While I don't think Thanos is a slow poke I also don't particularly think He will be faster than.... lets say Thor, He for sure is faster than a peak human. But from there to think that He could react to someone who can think and move at nanosecond reaction time is a far fetched idea.
I will be most interested into taking this topic to a judged match (THE TOPIC OF THANOS REACTION SPEED) with hopefully NEUTRAL Judges.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftThanos reacts to his clone trying to cheapshot him. Also the dreaded speed lines in the tackle.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/10iw.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/11iw.jpgThanos reacts to Odin throwing rocks at his back at a high speed. Even moreso when you think of it considering Odin blasted Thanos to no effect prior. Obviously he would throw these rocks at a slow speed to damage Thanos:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/26iw.jpgRaises his hand to stop Thor's hammer (with a forcefield or without, it doesn't matter) when Thor is trying to kill Thanos. Naturally this would come at a slow speed considering Thor's prior dealings with the Thanos clone trying to end the universe and tanking his blows.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CaptainMarvelv3017-03.jpgReacts to Surfer using a degree of speed to bullrush Thanos:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_23_Image_0001.jpgBlasts JoH and is on him before he realizes what's going on:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-3-Jackofh-24.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-3-Jackofh-25.jpgReacts to JoH' bullrush:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-5-Morg-33.jpgShows a degree of superspeed rushing Black Bolt:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Infinity004-014.jpgReacts to Thor about a couple feet away trying to cheapshot him when his body is faced in the complete opposite direction:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Infinity006-022.jpgLiterally reacts to Gladiator using his speed to try and attack Thanos. This is highly relevant considering the way Gladiator "blitzes". Which I will repost later:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos-TheInfinityRevelation-049.jpgReacts to Beta's hammer toss. The hammer appears not to have gained any ground in the time between Thanos' hand being all the way down and his hand being up and stopping the hammer completely:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos-TheInfinityRevelation-051.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos-TheInfinityRevelation-052.jpgSome "humor" Skreet taggings.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg07.jpghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg14.jpg
Catches Skreet being blasted back at a seemingly high speed from Maker:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg17.jpgSnatches Skreet out of the air after she surprises Fallen One. Though she was still going pretty fast, and was about to attack again.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg18.jpgBackhands Maker's blast.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos10pg18.jpgGrabs a rock when it's an arm length from the back of his head:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/WarlockInfinityWatch008-10.jpgHere's Thanos vs hundreds of Death's Legion showing hand speed:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-11.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-13.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/MCP-109b-16.jpgDodges an assassination attempt:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelHolidaySpecial1993-61.jpgSnatches Moondragon out of the air:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/ann_04_021.jpgWhat does Guy say about Moondragon's speed?
And what about Mantis' speed?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_004_15b.jpgAnd I use this because of Carver's infatuation with this thread and Hulk. Smacks a speeding Hulk out of the air:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Infinity006-014.jpgWhat does Carver say about Hulk's speed?
Now, onto Ganymede.
Anyway, about the stupid shit about Gladiator being faster than Ganymede.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_16a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_16b.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_080_17a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_02b.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_03a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Surfer/SS_v3_081_03b.jpgGladiator doesn't have a combat speed showing that good.
Now, she tries the same tricks with Thanos:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-6-Tyrant23.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/CosmicPowers-6-Tyrant24.jpgWhich doesn't count apparently because she flew right at him like she did to Surfer? Which is exactly what Gladiator does? That doesn't count.
Her blitzing robots:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_081_11a.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_081_11b.jpghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/SS_v3_082_15a.jpg
But for whatever reason she is perceived as slow? Why? Because Thanos tagged her? She rushed at Thanos the exact way she started these blitzes, but we're to assume she went slower because Thanos or something?
I will address EVERY SINGLE SCAN AND COMMENT. I will do the same for the other post.
All you have shown is that Thanos at times is faster than a human and prehaps can respond to a blind bullrush by Gladiator from afar. I say blind as if Glads closes his eyes and doesn't see Thanos raises his hand in slow motion to attack while he is rushing.
Here we go. In order of your posts.
Circular reasoning, you must show that his clone is as fast as Gladiator can be.
Responding to falling rocks, or rocks that went up and then down? Well you must prove
those rocks were going as fast as Gladiator can go.
Thor telegraphing the throw, Thanos anticipates it being thrown. Thanos uses a force barrier to
stop it.
We don't know how the distance was closed between Surfer and Thanos.
And what happened to Surfer's reflexes then? He just let Thanos punch him in the face without
reacting?
Oh ok so Thanos traveled several feet in about a second or two. Glads can travel astronomical
distances in that time.
Shows a small degree of super speed rushing BB? You know time sometimes elaspes between panels right? Captain America has superspeed too you know.
Reaching to Thor isn't the same as reacting to a speeding Gladiator. Where was Thor's reflexes to block
the eyebeams there?
They were talking and Thanos erects a portal (while Gladiator is talking to him). No great reaction feat there.
So can you prove that the hammer was traveling as fast as Gladiator can go? Especially knowing BRB wasn't shown to whirl it to build up speed prior to throwing it? But this is a decent speed feat by Thanos I must admit. So it does hold a great deal of water in his defense.
Wow! He grabbed skreet and hit her as fast as a human could have. That's amazing.
Wow! He caught skreet traveling fast. Maybe a human could have done that too.
Wow! He caught skreet when she stopped blitzing. Maybe that took some good human reflexes right there.
Backhanding Maker's blast is impressive, if the blast was going as fast as light. She did telegraph by
pointing her hand though. Also it was from afar and not from fisticuffs range.
Oh Thanos catches a moving rock in the nick of time. That's probably above human level there. Spider-man got
his entire body out of the way of a bullet when it was only a couple of inches from his torso.
Oh Thanos showing handspeed proves he's faster than a human maybe.
Dodges random blast that was telegraphed by the shooting pointing and then firing. Maybe that's a good feat,
depending on whether the writer thought Thanos aimed dodged or not.
Wow! Look at moondragon move as fast as Gladiator. She was going light speed there.
Wow! Mantis is probably as fast as Captain America. Seriously though, this is where you are caught trolling.
You are using one scene in comics to equate another scene in comics knowing very well characters don't operate at speeds they have shown before. That's like mean showing Gladiator punching a planet into pieces and then showing a metabeing taking a hit without being koed from Gladiator and thus trying to convince others that the metabeing has planet destroying durability.
Wow! Hulk was moving as fast as Gladiator can.
How fast was Ganymede moving? Being shown in multiples automatically mean you are traveling faster than Gladiator or even the speed of light. Why did Surfer stop her so easily when he got serious? Good aim dodging by her.
Same trick on Thanos? Same speed on Thanos? Hmmmm. Even so, you still haven't established her speed.
Remember ANYTHING as fast as a bullet or greater looks EXACTLY the same to humans.
Those robots were so fast. I wonder how fast was she going? Traveling as fast as a bullet would appear the exact same way.
False dichotomy:
This is when someone claims that there are only a certain amount of options, and if all but one are false, then the other must be true. This ignores the possibility of other options.
Example: “Lightning travels at relativistic speed. If lightning is heading towards you, either you’ll can’t move that fast and you’ll be hit, or you can move that fast and you can block or dodge it. Nami blocked Enel’s lightning in the Skypeia arc, so therefore Nami can move at relativistic speed.”
The person in this example ignores the possibility that Nami could have seen Enel powering up his attack before he actually fired it and set up her defense in advance.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeThe main point in this thread is that for whatever reason Gladiator blitzes him. Why on Earth would Thanos' reaction speed be relevant in this thread is what you're asking? And that's a serious question?
Why do people feel the need to make Thanos into this speedster and reaction speed monster if he isn't. His strengths are somewhere else and this kind of approach is just plain stupid.
But I agree, stupidity is a large force here.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElAnd Thanos apparently won't see Gladiator rushing him in the only way Gladiator knows how in comics... head on?
False dichotomy:This is when someone claims that there are only a certain amount of options, and if all but one are false, then the other must be true. This ignores the possibility of other options.
Example: “Lightning travels at relativistic speed. If lightning is heading towards you, either you’ll can’t move that fast and you’ll be hit, or you can move that fast and you can block or dodge it. Nami blocked Enel’s lightning in the Skypeia arc, so therefore Nami can move at relativistic speed.â€
The person in this example ignores the possibility that Nami could have seen Enel powering up his attack before he actually fired it and set up her defense in advance.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeYou don't even understand what it is people are saying. First you need to understand what is being said and then you can offer a rebuttal.
Why do people feel the need to make Thanos into this speedster and reaction speed monster if he isn't. His strengths are somewhere else and this kind of approach is just plain stupid.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftAnd Thanos apparently won't see Gladiator rushing him in the only way Gladiator knows how in comics... head on?
The problem is that Gladiator is often written in comics with CIS and PIS.
CIS will apply on a forum fight but not PIS
When someone slower than you outmanouvers you and you can move at apparently nanosecond reaction time, it should not even happen.
Saying that Thanos was probably ready for Glads attack, glads was not using top speed and that is WHY He was BFR is acceptable.
Trying into spin the same scene into Gladiator was moving at the speed of light and Thanos reacted because he has relativistic reflexes is what I think is the false dichotomy
Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't even understand what it is people are saying. First you need to understand what is being said and then you can offer a rebuttal.
I understand it perfectly well. Gladiator might be stronger, he is for sure faster and has better reaction speed. Thanos shouldn't be able to react but let's face the truth, Gladiator is an idiot, he fights like an idiot, he talks like an idiot and he jobs like an idiot. He won't win important comic fights and even though he is stat wise an high herald he can't live up to this status. Thanos will win, always, because Gladiator will fight like he does in comics.
It is a pity Marvel is making him the way he is now because Glads had potential.
Backhands Maker's blast.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...hanos10pg18.jpg
This is pretty much all that anyone with a brain would need to realize, in order to see that Thanos can react to speedsters. How fast does energy travel? Bran I believe that most people would or should agree that this shuts down every one of h1's arguments on the subject. He wasn't even able to come up with a decent rebuttal to it, and likely took an hour to plot a deceitful means of discrediting the feat.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeGladiator isn't stronger at all. Thanos has the intelligence and the means to negate speed. He's done so on panel and has the reflexes to tag much faster, quicker, skilled hand to hand combatants.
I understand it perfectly well. Gladiator might be stronger, he is for sure faster and has better reaction speed. Thanos shouldn't be able to react but let's face the truth, Gladiator is an idiot, he fights like an idiot, he talks like an idiot and he jobs like an idiot. He won't win important comic fights and even though he is stat wise an high herald he can't live up to this status. Thanos will win, always, because Gladiator will fight like he does in comics.It is a pity Marvel is making him the way he is now because Glads had potential.
Thanos treats anyone from this tier the same way. Surfer, Thor, Bill, they are child's play to Thanos. Superman would also be child's play to him.
Thanos is the King, babe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Gladiator isn't stronger at all. Thanos has the intelligence and the means to negate speed. He's done so on panel and has the reflexes to tag much faster, quicker, skilled hand to hand combatants.Thanos treats anyone from this tier the same way. Surfer, Thor, Bill, they are child's play to Thanos. Superman would also be child's play to him.
Thanos is the King, babe.
Debatable. In a comic not a forum fight. Yes, there are qicker, faster and better h2h people than Thanos, we agree that he is inferior in this departments 👆 .
No he doesn't. Superman isn't in this thread and i would ask you to leave your hate out of this, it's childish and pathetic and doesn't belong here, thank you.
Maybe in your wet dreams, but he is a solid Trans.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElSo basically, you don't think Gladiator can win, but you will still continue arguing for Gladiator nonetheless to a point where you believe Thanos can't even tag Gladiator?
The problem is that Gladiator is often written in comics with CIS and PIS.CIS will apply on a forum fight but not PIS
When someone slower than you outmanouvers you and you can move at apparently nanosecond reaction time, it should not even happen.
Saying that Thanos was probably ready for Glads attack, glads was not using top speed and that is WHY He was BFR is acceptable.
Trying into spin the same scene into Gladiator was moving at the speed of light and Thanos reacted because he has relativistic reflexes is what I think is the false dichotomy
Anyway, I trust you're not talking about me when you're speaking of the spinning angle, because the only spinning I see...
But it doesn't matter if Gladiator lacks any blitzing feats of consequence even when he blitzes a decent amount because it said nanosecond about him once, which is less times than it's said about Silver Surfer.
Among other things.
Can you offer any proof in conjuncture of the nanosecond feat of Gladiator successfully blitzing Thanos?
It also doesn't help that in the same month he was nanoseconds quick he almost got knocked out by normal Dick Rider absorbing and redirecting his HV energy. Or that it took several seconds to get to Hyperion in the same page. Which speaks well for him getting close to Thanos.
That under the same writer right after he beat Hyperion that BB calmly flew up, wrapped his hands around Glad's ear, and whispered in it. That Hyperion in the same month almost got knocked out by Captain Marvel. That in the same month Quasar was able to trap him in his bands for a couple pages which he should have seen coming.
All of that except the Nova example were under the same writer. And the Nova example was referenced in those issues.
He has the worst nanosecond reactions of all time.
I have no problem with people saying that Gladiator can hit Thanos. But when it goes overboard like "Thanos can't hit him at all because... uh... nanoseconds!", it's time to stop ignoring the proof. I'm not arguing that Thanos is unhittable here. But considering Thanos' feats are more than enough to deal with Gladiator's speed, it's utterly retarded to say Gladiator is untouchable. Especially considering the way Gladiator fights. And it doesn't help that no one can even offer an example of Gladiator blitzing anyone and tie it to this fight. All it is is him reacting to Hyperion's punch via blocking.
This thread is giving me a tumor.
