Football (Soccer)

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I didn't ask myself that because I didn't think Juventus are incapable of playing like utter shit. You obviously did.

Then again, you think Juventus win without trying, so there's hardly any credibility to your claims. Don't talk about realism if you're coming with bs like that.

-AC

alright, lets argue it your way, do you think Arsenal would've won if you played like you did at the beginning of the season, and Juve performed like you have recently?

im not saying Arsenal arent a great club, but i cant honestly say i think theyre better than Juventus

EDIT: haha, just saw skysports news, even some 10yr old is saying Juventus played rubbish.

Originally posted by Deano
lol its not better. you may like slow build up play and dull games. but id prefer fast, fluent attacking football provided by the spanish and english leagues.
the italian leagues rarely produce those games

Cool then we have different opinions 😎

Originally posted by Df02
ill continue or concede this argument after the replay, i personally beleive Juventus are better than Arsenal... werent tonight, but at their best are.

I also dont beleive Milan are overrated, i mean noone here is saying theyre the best team in the world... but they are a quality club, i think progressing to the champions league later stages and finishing high in their league for the last half dozen seasons is pretty good proof of that.

milan arn't overrated. i believe they are better than juventus. they have a good solid defence. a great mix of attack and defence in midfield. and some class strikers.

arsenal have a brighter future than juventus. i woudnt swap arsenals players for any of juventus's players. but i bet juventus would

Originally posted by Df02
alright, lets argue it your way, do you think Arsenal would've won if you played like you did at the beginning of the season, and Juve performed like you have recently?

im not saying Arsenal arent a great club, but i cant honestly say i think theyre better than Juventus

If Arsenal played shit and Juventus played as good as Arsenal are now, would Juve win? Of course. How is that helping your argument?

You could say that about literally any team. If Arsenal played at the absolute best they can and Juve did the same, Arsenal would win because they're a much better team.

Arsenal have the better win record against Juventus, also.

That 10 year old is right. He's only 8 years younger than the player who outsmarted Viera and scored a crucial goal past the world's most expensive keeper.

-AC

Originally posted by Deano
milan arn't overrated. i believe they are better than juventus. they have a good solid defence. a great mix of attack and defence in midfield. and some class strikers.

arsenal have a brighter future than juventus. i woudnt swap arsenals players for any of juventus's players. but i bet juventus would

exactly, Arsenal have a brighter future... they arent better. brighter.
atm id swap quite a few Juve players into the Arsenal team, not all of them by any means, but theres quite a few better players in the Juventus team than in their respective position at Arsenal

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If Arsenal played shit and Juventus played as good as Arsenal are now, would Juve win? Of course. How is that helping your argument?

You could say that about literally any team. If Arsenal played at the absolute best they can and Juve did the same, Arsenal would win because they're a much better team.

Arsenal have the better win record against Juventus, also.

-AC

whats the win record?

Originally posted by Df02
exactly, Arsenal have a brighter future... they arent better. brighter.
atm id swap quite a few Juve players into the Arsenal team, not all of them by any means, but theres quite a few better players in the Juventus team than in their respective position at Arsenal

they are better and brighter. what players wud u swap?
i can think of one maybe. zlatan

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If Arsenal played shit and Juventus played as good as Arsenal are now, would Juve win? Of course. How is that helping your argument?

because thats exactly why arsenal beat juve. because one team played better than the other. its a matter of ocassion, Juve clearly werent as hungry for the win as Arsenal so they lost... thats why im waiting for the replay to carry on this argument, because then Juve might played at their best and might win.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If Arsenal played at the absolute best they can and Juve did the same, Arsenal would win because they're a much better team.

see i dont agree, can either of us prove our arguments undeniably? no.

Originally posted by Deano
they are better and brighter. what players wud u swap?
i can think of one maybe. zlatan

I would swap Zlatan, Camorenesi, and Zambrotta to Arsenal

Originally posted by Deano
totti is overrated. nesta and gattuso are the only players who i would like in my team

What team?

Dream team?

Originally posted by Deano
they are better and brighter. what players wud u swap?
i can think of one maybe. zlatan

currently.
Cannavaro > Campbell
Ibrahimovic > all of Henry's partners
Buffon > Lehmann
Viera/Emerson > Gilberto
Nedved > Ljunberg
Zambrotta > Hleb

i also think Manuele Blasi, Trezeguet and Zebina could get into the Arsenal squad easily

Originally posted by Df02
currently.
Cannavaro > Campbell
Ibrahimovic > all of Henry's partners
Buffon > Lehmann
Viera/Emerson > Gilberto
Nedved > Ljunberg
Zambrotta > Hleb

i also think Manuele Blasi, Trezeguet and Zebina could get into the Arsenal squad easily

cannavaro aint that great.
i agree with zlatan
buffon yes but lehman is more than capable.
gilberto showed emerson how its done. why would wenger want vieria back at arsenal, he got rid of him for good reason.
nedved is old. wenger woudnt want him
hleb is better than zambrotta in my opinion

id rather have van persie and reyes than trezuguet.
plus id rather have lauren and eboue than zebina

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What team?

Dream team?

if i had to pick italian players in my team(if i had one lol) then those two would be my choice

Originally posted by Deano
cannavaro aint that great.
i agree with zlatan
buffon yes but lehman is more than capable.
gilberto showed emerson how its done. why would wenger want vieria back at arsenal, he got rid of him for good reason.
nedved is old. wenger woudnt want him
hleb is better than zambrotta in my opinion

id rather have van persie and reyes than trezuguet.
plus id rather have lauren and eboue than zebina

Cannavaro is alot better than Campbell and Senderos and Toure.
Buffon is better than Lehmann so he'd be in the squad, being capable isnt the argument here...
Emerson and Viera had bad days, theyre better players than Gilberto though.
even if Nedved is old, he's better than the attacking midfield options Arsenal have available to them now imo.

i dont know what to say though, we're fighting over opinion every step here.

Originally posted by Df02
Cannavaro is alot better than Campbell and Senderos and Toure.
Buffon is better than Lehmann so he'd be in the squad, being capable isnt the argument here...
Emerson and Viera had bad days, theyre better players than Gilberto though.
even if Nedved is old, he's better than the attacking midfield options Arsenal have available to them now imo.

i dont know what to say though, we're fighting over opinion every step here.

wenger wouldnt have them. he is buliding for the future.
im not denying the players qualitys. but they are getting old. i know what team i would rather be in

toure is better than cannavaro at this moment in time. tonight he showed it aswell.

Originally posted by El_NINO
whats the win record?

I think, the last 4 games they've played were two Arsenal wins (by fair margins), a 1-1 draw and a 1-0 win to Juventus.

So it's two wins and a draw for Arsenal.

As for the comparisons that Df02 made, I'd have Lehmann over Buffon. They've both had shit periods but I can't recall Buffon ever having an unbeaten season.

Gilberto is much better than Viera now, I really like Emerson though. I personally prefer Gilberto's style better. Whether he's factually better or not, I couldn't say.

I think Toure is better than Cannavaro though, personally. Cannavaro is one of the few Italian players I do actually like.

-AC

i still say that vieria is better than gilberto. thats the one area where wenger needs to sort out. gilberto is good but u need someone world class, liek vieria was. diaby looks promising though. maybe he is the player that can fill his boots

That's why I'd prefer Ballack at Arsenal.

-AC

I just had an ugly/beautiful realisation...

I actually want Arsenal to do well in the Champions League, so it will distract them from performing in the league. Thus, the mighty, mighty Lilly Whites will secure that 4th place!

Whatever. They'd get it regardless. Go Spurs!

with the wolves player robbie keane in your team. you have a good chancw