never rule Juve out, they arent op of their league by a decent amount of points for nothing...
not sure if theyll go through, but i can see them winning this round.
as for the england job, i couldnt care less as long as he's good at it.
as for Shevchenko, you don't become a record goal scorer unless you're particularly good, he had a quiet night but still scored...
Milan really need to invest in new young players though, Gilardino isnt going to work alongside a 40yr old team.
Dida was shocking, absolutely shocking
Originally posted by Df02
never rule Juve out, they arent op of their league by a decent amount of points for nothing...not sure if theyll go through, but i can see them winning this round.
as for the england job, i couldnt care less as long as he's good at it.
as for Shevchenko, you don't become a record goal scorer unless you're particularly good, he had a quiet night but still scored...
Milan really need to invest in new young players though, Gilardino isnt going to work alongside a 40yr old team.Dida was shocking, absolutely shocking
Yes, true, never underestimate Juve, yet I cant help but feel that considering Juve's league performance wins of matches upon narrow margins (1-0, 2-0), they face a tough task to turn the 2-0 loss at Highbury last week, especially if Arsenal's defense perform as well as they previously did.
And regarding AC milan's goal suffered against Lyon, : I cant believe its not butter were rumored to sign a sponsorship deal with Milan due to the horrible defending displayed - 3 Lyon players completely unmarked & Diarra, completely surrounded by 4 defenders, manages to get the goal. Unbelievable isnt it ?
Juventus have to be the single slowest team in the world... 2-0 down and theyre still going at a snails pace up the pitch.
theyre just soo obviously an italian team... slow, unilateral... none of the spark that is evidently there.... where Ibrahimovic spinning and doing all the skills everyone knows he can do? where's Nedved combining play behind the front 2? why is almost every ball they play sideways??
and most of all, why is there absolutely no offball movement?
Juventus, even if in the last 35mins they somehow win, are shockingly disappointing.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Don't count out the man everyone has been hyping to the max, Nedved. Still might change the game.Hopefully he doesn't get a second yellow like he just did.
Oh...
-AC
he was the only person on the Juve team showing commitment, pressing the arsenal players, making runs etc... he got frustrated and made 2 stupid tackles.
but he wasnt wearing an arsenal shirt, so he's shit
I didn't say he's shit.
Just another overrated player playing for an overrated team. What you said before was 100% correct; They're not top of Serie A for no reason.
The reason being that on form, they're a good team in a world of shit Italian nobody teams. Against a team that can play, Ibrahimovic CAN'T do flashy skills, Nedved CAN'T be influential as he might otherwise be.
Sooner or later people will admit it.
Arsenal go through, as I said they would, with a Champions League record of 9 clean sheets. Maybe the should play these amazing Italian teams that seem to exist. I mean, they've just knocked out the best by out playing and out classing them.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I didn't say he's shit.Just another overrated player playing for an overrated team. What you said before was 100% correct; They're not top of Serie A for no reason.
The reason being that on form, they're a good team in a world of shit Italian nobody teams. Against a team that can play, Ibrahimovic CAN'T do flashy skills, Nedved CAN'T be influential as he might otherwise be.
Sooner or later people will admit it.
-AC
up until yesterday there were 3 Italian teams that had got this far in the CL... Roma went far in Eufa cup, last few years Milan have got far in Champions League, win against Lyon was undeserved, but Lyon imo were one of the best teams left in it so any win is a good win... if Arsenal had won under those circumstances im sure you wouldnt be quibbling. It's not a rubbish league alot of great players and teams, it's just played very differently, patiently... i would describe it as 'boringly'.
Ibrahimovic, as you very well know, can produce the quality against the best teams... he did it for Ajax, has done it for Juventus before and for Sweden, at every level.
Just because a team is off-form - they havent won in 3 games in Serie A, and have lost both legs of their CL games, as you know - Ibrahimovic is goal-starved... as is the whole team... and they have injuries to key players, and have suspended players as well... just because they lost under those circumstances doesnt change them being a good team.
btw i thought they played diabolically, as ive said before... i just refuse to say theyre overrated.
Originally posted by Df02
up until yesterday there were 3 Italian teams that had got this far in the CL... Roma went far in Eufa cup, last few years Milan have got far in Champions League, win against Lyon was undeserved, but Lyon imo were one of the best teams left in it so any win is a good win... if Arsenal had won under those circumstances im sure you wouldnt be quibbling. It's not a rubbish league alot of great players and teams, it's just played very differently, patiently... i would describe it as 'boringly'.Ibrahimovic, as you very well know, can produce the quality against the best teams... he did it for Ajax, has done it for Juventus before and for Sweden, at every level.
Juve's CL run is over pointless to bring up stats
Originally posted by Df02
up until yesterday there were 3 Italian teams that had got this far in the CL... Roma went far in Eufa cup, last few years Milan have got far in Champions League, win against Lyon was undeserved, but Lyon imo were one of the best teams left in it so any win is a good win... if Arsenal had won under those circumstances im sure you wouldnt be quibbling. It's not a rubbish league alot of great players and teams, it's just played very differently, patiently... i would describe it as 'boringly'.
Boring teams Vs boring teams. Most of the top teams only have standout players, not necessarily great whole teams, and even then the standouts are Shevchenko and the like. Overrated. Very good, but overrated. People place him at Henry level, he's not. He's no Ronaldinho or Riquelme.
Juventus WERE lucky to get this far, due to Werder Bremen. AC Milan got lucky against Lyon, again (PSV whooped them last year). Both of the best Italian teams got COMPLETELY out played in both legs. Inter got the same treatment.
I'm not making this stuff up.
Originally posted by Df02
Ibrahimovic, as you very well know, can produce the quality against the best teams... he did it for Ajax, has done it for Juventus before and for Sweden, at every level.
John Jensen could produce screamers that save games. Would I play him? No.
Ajax? Best teams? Ajax fell from grace years ago. He obviously can't do it against the best teams. Couldn't even do it against Bremen.
-AC