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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Looked, but wasn't. Ergo, the goal shouldn't have counted. That's how it works.

You're acting as if I'm denying Barca the win. I'm not, if I had my way they'd still have the 2-1, but he didn't need to take us down to 10 men and make poor decisions, including allowing an offside goal to do it.

Denying that the ref was terrible is just blind. He was disgraceful. He made disgraceful calls, how you can deny that is beyond me, if that is what you're trying to do.

You don't know how many of the starting 11 were hit with it, or how bad, you just assumed the worst case scenario and ran with it.

This was the result of an "official" ruining the game for a team who could have (I know, we'll never know) very likely won it. They didn't, and fine. I'm not denying Barca the win, but the way they won as a result of bad refereeing was pathetic.

-AC

oh for god sake, even if he was offside (he didnt look it to me.. and youre supposed to give benefit of the doubt to striker) it went in, goals go in from offside positions every week.

the ref was rubbish, yes, never said he wasnt... but the red card was a coin flip, alot of refs would have made that call, but shouldnt've, and the Arsenal goal came from a dive from Eboue.

Tottenham had a disadvantage, but still an excuse.

Originally posted by Df02
oh for god sake, even if he was offside (he didnt look it to me.. and youre supposed to give benefit of the doubt to striker) it went in, goals go in from offside positions every week.

Yes, and it's unfortunate, it's wrong. There needs to be a way to be more sure, but there isn't and that's the way it goes. Injustice happens.

That doesn't mean there's reason not to complain.

Originally posted by Df02
the ref was rubbish, yes, never said he wasnt... but the red card was a coin flip, alot of refs would have made that call, but shouldnt've, and the Arsenal goal came from a dive from Eboue.

Of course it was a red card foul, but in this case he shouldn't have sent Lehmann off. If it was any other team I'd say the same.

Yeah, the free kick shouldn't have been given, but the goal itself was great. The goal came from an unjust free kick, yes, that was the one damaging call Barca had against them. It didn't exactly change their game.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, and it's unfortunate, it's wrong. There needs to be a way to be more sure, but there isn't and that's the way it goes. Injustice happens.

That doesn't mean there's reason not to complain.

yea, exactly how i felt about Spurs' issue.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Of course it was a red card foul, but in this case he shouldn't have sent Lehmann off. If it was any other team I'd say the same.

Yeah, the free kick shouldn't have been given, but the goal itself was great. The goal came from an unjust free kick, yes, that was the one damaging call Barca had against them. It didn't exactly change their game.

-AC

yea, but it happens all the time, shouldn't happen in CL final, but did, and does regularly in other games... the ref was shit, but i dont think he was biased.

was a good goal yea, terrific header, almost as good as Gerrard's in last years final. But if you can let the dive slide i can let Eto'o's supposed offside slide.

Who's letting the dive slide? I said it was wrong. The free kick was wrong, the goal wasn't. The goal was fine.

Eto'o was actually offside.

-AC

Regardless of how it happened and who deserved what, I am very happy that Barcelona won the cup.

And that's coming from a Spurs fan, so you can't say I'm bias.

Side-note: Berbatov = better than Henry.

Haha!

I see what you did...you lil rascal.

-AC

I am not going to get drawn into the whole thing about the ref because it has happened and can't be changed..

The one thing I will say though I Arsenal's defence was outstanding... only twice they lost concentration.. (which is understandable seeing the pressure they were under) But they kept Ronaldinho and Eto'o (up until that one moment for the goal) out of the game.. Giuly was Barca's biggest threat going forward..

but for me Henrik Larsson was the man of the match.. and he only played about 30 minutes.

Yeah he made all the difference, made the final assist for both goals didn't he?

The ref killed that game. For the first 20 minutes it was fast and fluid, Arsenal were on top and it could have ended up like 5-4, but you can't expect to win against Barcelona with only 10 men from such an early stage. Good tense game though, Eboue, Toure, Cole and Ljunberg were outstanding the entire time, Henry, Hleb and Fabregas had moments of brilliance, and Arsenal's reserve goal keeper did an admirable job. Also, that game was living proof that it is possible to stop Ronaldinho.

One question remains for me though; why did Arsene thingie bring off Cesc? He wasn't tired, he didn't appear to be injured, and at the point he was the only central link between the defence and Henry. Strange decision.

he probably wanted to hang on to the lead fo the last 15 minutes so he bought on someone a bit more defensive. thats probably the reason.

i hope henry dont go to barc. that would be the ultimate fukin insult to arsenal fans. ...

''barca just beat us in the final, now im going to join them, cya''

it'd be funny if he does...

funny for me

I don't think he will, he was breathing fire during that interview after the game. He accused Marquez and Puyol of kicking him.

He doesn't need the money, he loves playing under Arsene Wenger (that's the one), he's worshipped in England, he's by far the best striker (and probably player, only Gerrard can touch him) in the country, Arsenal are on the rise, and playing for Barcelona would provide much less of a challenge, and he's said before he relishes a challenge. I don't think he'll leave. I hope he doesn't. I've followed many sports in my time, football, basketball, hockey, tennis, but I've never enjoyed watching a single sportsman as much as I have watching Henry play soccer, for Arsenal.

http://home.skysports.com/broadband.asp?showclip=yes

here is his rant

I support Man Utd.. and lord knows he has caused us a lot of problems in the past.. but even I want him to stay.. He is a great player and the Premiership needs great players like him.

Originally posted by Df02
it'd be funny if he does...

funny for me

Me, too. It would be almost Shakespearian in its comic-tragedy.

just as funny when berbatov becomes a 10 million flop

Originally posted by Deathblow
I don't think he will, he was breathing fire during that interview after the game. He accused Marquez and Puyol of kicking him.

He doesn't need the money, he loves playing under Arsene Wenger (that's the one), he's worshipped in England, he's by far the best striker (and probably player, only Gerrard can touch him) in the country, Arsenal are on the rise, and playing for Barcelona would provide much less of a challenge, and he's said before he relishes a challenge. I don't think he'll leave. I hope he doesn't. I've followed many sports in my time, football, basketball, hockey, tennis, but I've never enjoyed watching a single sportsman as much as I have watching Henry play soccer, for Arsenal.

I'm a bit baffled as to how Gerrard is the only player in England that can touch Henry (not Lampard for example), baffled as to how he can touch him anyway.

-AC

Originally posted by Deano
just as funny when berbatov becomes a 10 million flop

Pff, yeah right. As if. Berbatov is gonna score about 100 goals next season. Just you wait and see...

AC, I think he refers to the digits known as 'fingers'.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm a bit baffled as to how Gerrard is the only player in England that can touch Henry (not Lampard for example), baffled as to how he can touch him anyway.

-AC

I'm not entirely sure what you find baffling about that, but OK.

I'll put it more simply: I think Gerrard is the only player in the country who has given performances that can match up with Henry's, at his best. And Gerrard's better than Lampard. Not saying Lampard's not a magnificent player, it's just he plays one position only, whereas Gerrard is a defender, holding midfielder, playmaker and striker, not to mention a natural born leader, all rolled into one. And he's equally good at all five aspects. He's just really a complete, well-rounded soccer player.

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Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
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