Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That just makes you the average England fan. Not surprising.
hang on... you already know i'm not a football fan, even though i watch it. so why presume i'm an england fan? i'd LOVE them not to get through so the entire country gets a wakeup call that they're not as good as hyped about. but they're still not shit.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, they are shit.Irrespective of their win or draw tonight, I believe they are a shit team.
-AC
opinion, as you like to say 😉
I dont think England are SHIT, Andorra are shit... San Marino are shit... England just aren't as good as everyone wants to think they are, almost every player is overrated.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How can you sit there and say a football team can never be shit, simply because nobody ever loses all their games ever?That's actually a retarded idea.
This is prime example. I say I think England are shit, and because of that, England fans have somehow degenrated the debate into "Nobody is shit or great because nobody always wins or loses.". So everybody is average, simply because England "are"?
You're implying that you're only as good as your last game, which is ridiculous. At least take form into account here. If you're arguing that no team is default good or shit, because there are fluctuations in form, I can understand, but to claim Leyton Orient aren't shit because they have won some...well.
-AC
i just dont know what your definition of shit is.
😉
Originally posted by Df02
opinion, as you like to say 😉I dont think England are SHIT, Andorra are shit... San Marino are shit... England just aren't as good as everyone wants to think they are, almost every player is overrated.
The interesting thing there is that Gerrard is probably one of the players you don't consider overrated, haha.
-AC
Originally posted by Df02
I dont think England are SHIT, Andorra are shit... San Marino are shit... England just aren't as good as everyone wants to think they are, almost every player is overrated.
A great point dude, as a team they have well underperformed and seem that it always comes down to the last game of qualification for them to qualify....which as an england fan must be shit and getting boring every 2 years.
I wonder what englands camp must be like when they meet up prior to each match, if they can't play together on the field and know each other as a player then it must be shit. Probably everyone trying to show the other guy how amazing they are by acting big headed and stuff.
Originally posted by Deano
if they was shit, they wouldnt win a game. yet alone qualify for a major tournament
It's weird nowadays, shit teams are getting a little bit better and better, didnt macedonia draw with england....and my big point is that the Faroe Islanes (who have yet to win a game I think) were only beaten by the WORLD CHAMPIONS Italy 2-1....the most expensive goalkeeper in the world let a Fisherman or a Tesco attendant score against him.
I love upsets I do, they SHOULD give teams a wakeup call but England don't seem to of took that on board - except perhaps NEVER to go a 3-5-2 formation, especially away from home.
sorry to post again but I heard today on the radio that the england team was "leaked" to the media....haha good one. I aint buying it for a second. Carson in goals with SWP right wing, ok I may believe the SWP but Robinson won't get dropped to the bench for this game.
I just seems stupid for an under presure manager to throw a rookie in goals who has yet to have a competetive game for his country.
Erm also, who will be Englands 2 centre backs tonight? Terry is injured and I think Ferdinand as well. Ledly King is injured still and Carragher has retired from International. Wes Brown?
If England make it tonight then they will be amongst the TOP 14 teams in Europe, thats at least 14th from 50 teams, that is not "shit"!. And if its "just" your opinion then your opinion is obviously wrong. If you consider Englands style of play as "shit" then that is ok and an opinion, which everyone is entitled to.
maybe it would be a good idea if we made a list of teams and put them into groups, for example group A top Class teams, B Average teams, C Bad and yes just for AC D Shit teams.
Best not to use all teams there are as it´d be too much.
my pub team aint shit mayn
top of division 8 thank you very much 😛
http://wolverhamptonsundayleague.net/DOWNLOADS/18th-NOVEMBER-2007.pdf
Originally posted by Bicnarok
If England make it tonight then they will be amongst the TOP 14 teams in Europe, thats at least 14th from 50 teams, that is not "shit"!. And if its "just" your opinion then your opinion is obviously wrong. If you consider Englands style of play as "shit" then that is ok and an opinion, which everyone is entitled to.
You cannot factually prove they aren't shit. You are using "shit" in your definition, so it's your opinion from the get go.
Top 14 teams that QUALIFIED. You cannot assume they are the top 14 teams quality wise, many things can result in qualification.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
maybe it would be a good idea if we made a list of teams and put them into groups, for example group A top Class teams, B Average teams, C Bad and yes just for AC D Shit teams.
Why? It'd all be opinion. Majority does not make fact, and the majority in England are stupid.
-AC
Originally posted by Deano
my pub team aint shit mayntop of division 8 thank you very much 😛
http://wolverhamptonsundayleague.net/DOWNLOADS/18th-NOVEMBER-2007.pdf
Oops forgot about them, list edited.....
Heres my rough list.
A. Top Class teams
Argentina
Brazil
FORGE HAMMER F C
Italy
France
Germany
Spain
Holland
Portugal
Ghana
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haha, I wish I had a video recording of how hard I laughed when that goal went in.
as soon as the croatian dude had the ball I knew the coach must have told every single croatian player to test that keeper not matter how easy a ball.
Well, the media have their scapegoat for their headlines tomorrow, shame too because He was such a promising keeper after the austria game.
Who is the sub keeper tonight?
Discos - *awaits the boos at half time*