Originally posted by Bicnarok
But he doesn´t give a truthful opinion, but an over dose of hatred version, but what do you expect from a glory supporter
The contradiction here is the fact that you are replying with a dose of anger and upset because I do not support England, ignoring the reasons why in favour of choosing your own, untrue reason. You do not give a truthful account of what I've said, but an overdose of whiney upset over someone not being patriotic, then again, what do you expect from an England fan.
You're being a reactionary fool because you cannot stand the fact that I think England are shit, because you feel they are average, so you choose to ignore the very free reason I chose to support a different country's football team. Far from recognising there is no connection between the two, you have chosen the stupid, ignorant and rather childish path of; "He supports Brazil! He'a a glory supporter!", despite the fact that I have explained to you I am not.
If you are upset that you cannot prove my comment about England being shit wrong, then deal with it. Your definition of shit differs from mine, grow up. Do not make non-existent connections between the team I choose to support, and my reasons for disliking the England team.
I dislike Italy, I think they, up until recently, were a very sub-par team, despite winning the World Cup. So suggesting I only enjoy teams who win, is not only irrelevant and pointless in this debate, but incorrect and ignorant. I give a truthful opinion, my opinion is truthful, I am being honest. You are being honest, you're also being silly.
It's highly hypocritical that as soon as I am provocative against you and your opinions (Exactly and ONLY what they are, by the way, including the idea they are an average team), you are up in arms and accusing me of more or less hate speech, when I am intending no hate toward anybody. Yet, you can openly sit there and talk up a team I dislike, talk down the team I support, then admit it's because you enjoy "winding me up", and that's ok somehow.
You need to sort out your priorities. England are shit, get over it, or at least get over the fact that this is what I believe. I am forced to accept the opinion of England that disagrees with my own, so you must accept mine. If you're going to be so ignorant as to make up your own mind for my reasons on supporting a different football team, then however idiotic, that's up to you. Do not continue to bring it up, then, because you are wrong. It's the same as saying foreigners ruin the national team, really. Why should I be dragged down to your level of feeling like I must support a cause, when...I really do not agree, and my enjoyment would suffer?
I am from East London, not North London. By your rationale I should support West Ham, but they're shit, so I don't. I support the team I enjoy the most, that is no different to me supporting Brazil, and before you reply "It's different! They're in your country!", the principle remains the same. Yet, since you've probably not taken it that far into your reactionary mind, I will leave you to be upset, you big baby.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The contradiction here is the fact that you are replying with a dose of anger and upset because I do not support England, ignoring the reasons why in favour of choosing your own, untrue reason. You do not give a truthful account of what I've said, but an overdose of whiney upset over someone not being patriotic, then again, what do you expect from an England fan.You're being a reactionary fool because you cannot stand the fact that I think England are shit, because you feel they are average, so you choose to ignore the very free reason I chose to support a different country's football team. Far from recognising there is no connection between the two, you have chosen the stupid, ignorant and rather childish path of; "He supports Brazil! He'a a glory supporter!", despite the fact that I have explained to you I am not.
If you are upset that you cannot prove my comment about England being shit wrong, then deal with it. Your definition of shit differs from mine, grow up. Do not make non-existent connections between the team I choose to support, and my reasons for disliking the England team.
I dislike Italy, I think they, up until recently, were a very sub-par team, despite winning the World Cup. So suggesting I only enjoy teams who win, is not only irrelevant and pointless in this debate, but incorrect and ignorant. I give a truthful opinion, my opinion is truthful, I am being honest. You are being honest, you're also being silly.
It's highly hypocritical that as soon as I am provocative against you and your opinions (Exactly and ONLY what they are, by the way, including the idea they are an average team), you are up in arms and accusing me of more or less hate speech, when I am intending no hate toward anybody. Yet, you can openly sit there and talk up a team I dislike, talk down the team I support, then admit it's because you enjoy "winding me up", and that's ok somehow.
You need to sort out your priorities. England are shit, get over it, or at least get over the fact that this is what I believe. I am forced to accept the opinion of England that disagrees with my own, so you must accept mine. If you're going to be so ignorant as to make up your own mind for my reasons on supporting a different football team, then however idiotic, that's up to you. Do not continue to bring it up, then, because you are wrong. It's the same as saying foreigners ruin the national team, really. Why should I be dragged down to your level of feeling like I must support a cause, when...I really do not agree, and my enjoyment would suffer?
I am from East London, not North London. By your rationale I should support West Ham, but they're shit, so I don't. I support the team I enjoy the most, that is no different to me supporting Brazil, and before you reply "It's different! They're in your country!", the principle remains the same. Yet, since you've probably not taken it that far into your reactionary mind, I will leave you to be upset, you big baby.
-AC
Do you expect someone to read all that waffle?
Alot of talk up here about a Home Nations tournament, papers are going mad for it.
My dad said he enjoyed the tournaments but it got old very quickly, this would be a 1-off though. I personally would rather have a England Vs Scotland match every 3 years or something. I will never forget the last scotlasnd england game at wembley...1-0 to the blues.
Well thats England down to 12th in the world rankings with Scotland at 14th. MEANING England are in the 2nd seed for the world cup draw along with Scotland - POOPS
I was hoping Scotland would perhaps meet england and get a great competitive fixture going again.
This also means that England will have to face a top seed....hopefully they get a bigger wake up call by having Italy, France or Germany in their group. I cannot imagine the aftermath or losing 3-0 to Italy at Home (could happen).
Originally posted by BUSTER1
I'm not being funny, but how did Lampard get man of the match from anyone??? He was anonymous until he scored his penalty. Sad to say but Croatia fully deserved to beat us-one of their players should have got man of the match. The one good thing to come from this shambles is the sacking of Mclaren!
I mentioned that "man of the match" shambles earlier.
Numerous Croat players were far better than any of Englands, Crouch did well though. The no. 14 Luka Modrić was the man of the match imo, brilliant player with excellent oversight.
And Mclaren being sacked, its definetly a step in the right direction & I think he would have gone even if England die qualify.
The problem is the board will probably select another useless manager. David Platt and Fabio Capello were mentioned on the news lately. What managerial or coaching experience has David Platt got? NONE!
Capello, wasn´t he sacked from Juve and Real Madrid, wasn´t he the one who got rid of Beckham and Owen from this team because of his sillyness?
Surley there´s gotta be an Experienced, Successfull, Inventive Manager with ideas and hunger for success out there.
maybe they are scared of the idiotic English press or are the England players that bad that nothing can be done with them?
Originally posted by Bicnarok
I mentioned that "man of the match" shambles earlier.Numerous Croat players were far better than any of Englands, Crouch did well though. The no. 14 Luka Modrić was the man of the match imo, brilliant player with excellent oversight.
And Mclaren being sacked, its definetly a step in the right direction & I think he would have gone even if England die qualify.
The problem is the board will probably select another useless manager. David Platt and Fabio Capello were mentioned on the news lately. What managerial or coaching experience has David Platt got? NONE!
Capello, wasn´t he sacked from Juve and Real Madrid, wasn´t he the one who got rid of Beckham and Owen from this team because of his sillyness?
Surley there´s gotta be an Experienced, Successfull, Inventive Manager with ideas and hunger for success out there.
maybe they are scared of the idiotic English press or are the England players that bad that nothing can be done with them?
What i can't believe is that in the tabloids , here in England, they're talking about Alan Shearer becoming England boss-hang on a minute he has no managerial experience, he only finished playing five moinutes ago!! Fair ply to Alan himself he said he couldn't take the job now b'cos he knows he can't do it, due to his total inexperience
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Capello, wasn´t he sacked from Juve and Real Madrid, wasn´t he the one who got rid of Beckham and Owen from this team because of his sillyness?
First of all, Capello wasn't sacked from Juventus. He won the Serie A with them a couple of times. (Helped by those bribed referees though) He did win the Seria A with AS Roma though. He resigned from Juve after they were put back to the Serie B because of the scandals. He was sacked from Real despite winning the Liga with them. Mostly because 'Real wasn't playing attractive football'. He had nothing to do with Beckham leaving, and Owen left prior to Capello even coming to the club. Get your facts straight.
Originally posted by Slay
First of all, Capello wasn't sacked from Juventus. He won the Serie A with them a couple of times. (Helped by those bribed referees though) He did win the Seria A with AS Roma though. He resigned from Juve after they were put back to the Serie B because of the scandals. He was sacked from Real despite winning the Liga with them. Mostly because 'Real wasn't playing attractive football'. He had nothing to do with Beckham leaving, and Owen left prior to Capello even coming to the club. Get your facts straight.
Thanks for correcting my wild guess. 💃
HAHA England have got Croatia again and this time only one team goes directly through, what a nightmare🙂
Heres the full draw.
The European qualifying draw in full:
Group 1
Portugal, Sweden, Denmark, Hungary, Albania, Malta
Group 2
Greece, Israel, Switzerland, Moldova, Latvia, Luxembourg
Group 3
Czech Republic, Poland, Northern Ireland, Slovakia, Slovenia, San Marino
Group 4
Germany, Russia, Finland, Wales, Azerbaijan, Liechtenstein
Group 5
Spain, Turkey, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Armenia, Estonia
Group 6
Croatia, England, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Andorra
Group 7
France, Romania, Serbia, Lithuania, Austria, Faroe Islands
Group 8
Italy, Bulgaria, Republic of Ireland, Cyprus, Georgia, Montenegro
Group 9
Holland, Scotland, Norway, FYR Macedonia, Iceland
Originally posted by Slay
Should be no problem for us to qualify. Might have some trouble with Scotland though.
Don´t be so modest, The Netherlands will cruise through this group without breaking sweat.
Scotland have heart and fight hard but technically not that good. They´ll probably come Second and beat England in the play offs🙂