Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's the thing, it's considered a bad run, despite Arsenal having not lost any of the past games they've drawn in.Poor for the form they're in, of course. We should have taken more points and I'm sure the team knows that. Man Utd have slipped up far worse, and they've come back, then so have Arsenal, then so have Man Utd.
People need to stop acting like this is over as soon as A team gets the lead.
-AC
Them words you say? That's fear f*cking wid chu.
It's not, is it? Right now, not winning the league and winning the league are two very realistic possibilities. As of now, losing isn't any more possible.
Arsenal have been top more frequently than Man Utd, so it's in our favour if anything.
Even if, IF, Arsenal didn't win the league, the worst thing would be dealing with the Man Utd fans, not even the loss. It would still be a gigantic "In your face." to the people (Everyone) that said Arsenal would spiral down, Spurs would end up 4th etc.
Originally posted by Phat J
ah but we have a game in hand so its potentially a 3 point lead. yeah im not serious about the wheels coming off thing but this is your 4th straight tie in the league. did you know that?
Of course I know that, I watch the games so that I don't end up judging players and then saying "Oh, maybe I've not seen enough games.".
Originally posted by Deano
and wenger says he wont bring many new players in. very silly. stop buying youngsters and start getting the cash out for some world class stars
Yeah, they need to get up to the level of multi-million pound spending Man Utd.
...What? Level on points you say?
This season was the mid-table season, lest we forget. Just because they aren't obliterating Man Utd doesn't make them an incapable squad. It doesn't even make sense. Arsenal aren't as good as Man Utd because they're not much better.
They could do with a bit more squad depth though. This options thing is a fallacy. Man Utd's option today was squeak a win against Derby. Arsenal scored from a corner today, not through walking it in. They also had a perfectly good goal struck off, and an arguably offside goal against.
The way in which Man Utd have the upper hand is that they have non-ambitious people like Fletcher who are content to play 4 games a season. Arsenal could do with a few of those, for depth's sake. The Birmingham draw was an accident, and Eduardo has been a loss. Van Persie has only just returned. Man Utd would suffer having vital players out for so long as well.
To be honest I'm fancying Chelsea at the moment.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Arsenal have been top more frequently than Man Utd, so it's in our favour if anything.
Current form dictates it's most definitely not in your favour. You've been floundering like a beached jellyfish!
PS. Gallas and Adebayor annoyed me again yesterday. They really have aggravating faces; someone needs to stuff a dummy in their gobs.
I'm not crying over the loss of the Carling Cup, but with watches, a DVD and endless (Fruitless) hype that came with it; it would appear you're a bit too happy about it. Your only glory since was a 4-0 win against West Ham. You've been knocked out of a cup and thrashed by Birmingham since.
He wasn't offside, fact. He was played to by Boateng.
-AC
HAHAHA all these "wheels coming off" comments are so funny.
In any competitive sport you win you draw and you loose, in the league its consistancy which is the deciding factor.
Not forgetting its difficult being at the top, especially if you still playing in multiple competitions, thats where a top manager comes into his own.
knowing who to play in which competition.
I reckon Arsenal should buy Diego from Bremen, he´d fit into the team perfectly. He´s skillful, young, unselfish team orientated player.
Might cost a paket but it´d be worth it.
i'm glad vic restated the fact that arsenal were probably only going to finish in the top six according to experts this year. manu and chelsea with liverpool close behind, tottenham possibly for fourth and arsenal 5th or 6th. if they come second thats an incredible acheivement in itself.
manu are looking favourites with a game in hand, but they lose that and chelsea gain a win... its all three top teams on 67 pts. as a neautral that is what i'd like to see.
as for the carling cup. any cup win is a good win, doesnt matter what it is. tottenham did well but even with that they're underacheived.
Wah, I got subbed! But I'm great! Don't give me a jacket! (Begorrah).
Not my words, the words of Robbie Keane. Passion though, only Arsenal can be petulant.
Originally posted by Df02
I hate it when linesmen don't understand the offside rule, or give offside strictly the whole game but then relax it for a goal randomly... Man City were shit today, cannot beleive we lost that game, but the linesmen were absolutely ****ing shocking, strangely Clattenberg had an alright game.
Yeah, bad decisions. Same happened yesterday to Arsenal. It's a bit silly when a perfectly legitimate goal is ruled out or given simply due to incompetence.
At least with the Spurs ones and the M'boro goal, it was a matter of misjudging lines. The Adebayor 'goal' was just pathetic. Played in by the opposition, given offside.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Wah, I got subbed! But I'm great! Don't give me a jacket! (Begorrah).Not my words, the words of Robbie Keane. Passion though, only Arsenal can be petulant.
Oh no, that was definately petulance, and it was embarassing to watch, if he had been playing well I could understand it, but he was hardly setting the game alight.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Yeah, bad decisions. Same happened yesterday to Arsenal. It's a bit silly when a perfectly legitimate goal is ruled out or given simply due to incompetence.At least with the Spurs ones and the M'boro goal, it was a matter of misjudging lines. The Adebayor 'goal' was just pathetic. Played in by the opposition, given offside.
It's not so much the fact that it was a bad decision that annoyed me, it was just the first time that linesman had shown ANY leniency in his offsides for the entire game, players could have a strand of hair fall beyond the last defender and his flag would be up, but Ireland is a full foot offside and he doesnt give it.
Bent's disallowed goal was just as bad though, Berbatov was nowhere near the area of play and yet he's given offside as Bent, on the other side of the goal, puts it in the net.
Maybe 'tighten the bolt' in Thai means 'bribe the officials'
I was wondering actually, yesterday in the Arsenal game they had a corner dead on the end of the injury time period, but there had been a hold up of at least a minute during the injury time. He blew before the corner was taken.
I wonder if refs ever let their personal opinions or affiliations affect their work. I'm sure they must.
Refereeing isn´t an easy thing, Ive had to referee a few kids games where my lad plays, its a nightmare especially without linesmen to help and mad parents yelling at you.
Its even been proved that its impossible to referee a footy match even with 3 refs present, theres to many things going one and too little time to make decisions for them to be accurate.
I can´t work out why people become referee´s in the first place.
I don't think anyone is expecting them to be perfect, but instead of adding new rules, let's make sure they all understand the ones that exist. If it's a goal or decision that's gonna change a game, it's worth taking the moments to see video footage and verify it.
Then there's the idea that refs may involve personal feelings, which we'll never know, or be able to stop.
-AC
I don't really see why a 10 second consultation (or headset contact) with an official in the stands who has access to replays would be detrimental to the game.
It's just bullshit. How is a little hold-up more damaging than not having a perfectly good goal stand? It's like they want the little mistakes in there for discussion points. Although the discussion is always just 'these mistakes are shit, why don't we sort it out?'
Technically the game wouldn't even have to stop, the official in the stands could just relay the message to the ref while play continues.
Not having goalline technology, as well, is just pathetic. Relying on some 45 year old fat guy to spot a 60mph shot going marginally over a line 30 yards away.