Originally posted by LORD B
i see liverpool easily disposed of arsenal.for liverpools last goal, babel shrugged off fabregas like he was a little boy.
what a suprise arsene whinger moaning again.
poor arsenal 😆
Saying things like this serves nothing but to prove you didn't actually watch the game, it doesn't ACTUALLY make you look cool.
Nobody is gonna go "Oh yeah, they did do that.", unless they're an idiot.
Some Arsenal fans may even be offended, like Krunk'd.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Saying things like this serves nothing but to prove you didn't actually watch the game, it doesn't ACTUALLY make you look cool.Nobody is gonna go "Oh yeah, they did do that.", unless they're an idiot.
Some Arsenal fans may even be offended, like Krunk'd.
-AC
you should of told lordb it was down to fatigue. not that the logic of that statement would sink in much
Originally posted by Raoul
i don't think it ruined the game, when the penalty had come so close to the end,
By it coming at the end, it ruined the game. Simple.
Originally posted by Raoul
liverpool were (imo) the better team for long periods, and looked more likely to score anyways...
Based on what? The fact they kept passing it back and forth from the defense and midfield? Ya. Real dominance when they could barely push Arsenal back.
Originally posted by LORD B
i see liverpool easily disposed of arsenal.for liverpools last goal, babel shrugged off fabregas like he was a little boy.
what a suprise arsene whinger moaning again.
poor arsenal 😆
I would love to see half the people on this board try and outpace Babel after running around for an hour and a half, even on fresh legs I'm pretty sure all of us would get outpaced.
Originally posted by Df02
Well he didn't score, so, something slightly better than a little boy?
Well there were a lot more, older, experienced players genuinely trying to stop him. As well as in front of him.
Babel beat a tired Fabregas, on his own, from a long ball over all the men that we had pushed up. Walcott beat about five Liverpool midfielders from his own half and made a goal happen that should have sent Arsenal through.
So I'd say it makes Liverpool look like little girls, with skirts and those socks that schoolgirls wear.
Quite an interesting quote here:
"I accept our own failings, as it seems does Arsene Wenger, but it is difficult to accept the failings of officials when they consistently favour the opposition. Is that so difficult for supporters of other sides to understand?".
-AC
Liverpool won, simple as that there's no point going over what should've been.
I enjoyed watching the game and as a Liverpool supporter, I was happy with the result. Do I think Liverpool were the better team? Not particularly, I think a lot of Liverpool fans get over confident from a win like this, which to be honest was pretty lucky.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not denying they won, but they shouldn't have.I'm not expecting it to change anything, but more so than any other team, I tired of them getting lucky and their fans claiming it's because they're so good tactically. There's no tactics about luck.
-AC
Obviously there's no tactics in luck, I'm also getting tired of this label and I support them. The fans that claim it's something else when it isn't are either blind with support, or are idiots who know nothing about football. I personally quite like supporting a lucky team, it makes for some quite exciting matches. Though of course there are also times when it isn't about luck and they do play genuinely good football.
I'm looking forward to the match against Chelsea, should be interesting.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, I believe that of Fabregas.As for Bojan, I've seen him come on for Barca and be magnificent against defenses that are by no means complacent.
The posts speak for themselves, accept a little responsibility.
List the times you've seen Eduardo dive or play up a foul. I can't do it for Ronaldo simply because there are so many, and you know it.
Ronaldo goes over at the slightest touch, Eduardo doesn't. Comparing the two is ridiculous.
Well enjoyable football/best football is never going to be a definite conclusion, since I imagine others would say other teams. Personally, for me, it is Arsenal. Man Utd have had to do a fair share of winning ugly to get where they are. Arsenal haven't had much of that this season.
Newcastle twice, Villa, Middlesbrough, Bolton, Liverpool to name a few.
Teams who didn't (Or didn't YET):
Arsenal, Sunderland, Spurs, Man City, Portsmouth, Derby.
Although to be fair, Torres was getting endlessly battered by Ferdinand (Who is one of my favourite defenders usually), and Mascherano got sent off when he shouldn't have.
Of course, I'm not naive enough to say Man Utd are there because of luck, but I feel you would have a greater appreciation for what I'm saying if you lived here. Deano not withstanding, because he does this thing where he'll be a really sensible football fan, then a player will come along whose ass will become his home for the season.
There's a reason not a lot of people feel Man Utd deserve shit, here.
Villa didn't, did they? They got a lucky own goal and shut up shop. They had an nine or 10 man defense at some points. Nothing could get through, and it wasn't to do with the quality of players, because I doubt even the real Ronaldo in his prime could handle that. It was because they had more mental belief.
The general feeling amongst the press here was, from the very start, "Arsenal are weak now.". Then when Arsenal started smashing people, "They can't keep it up.". The media were hyping people and suggesting, if anything, that Arsenal are the team to take points from. People seemingly tried their hardest. Nobody says it about Man Utd.
When Man Utd are a point clear, it's "They've won it.". When Arsenal were five clear, it was "They'll slip.". The media is biased toward Man Utd.
I think people are not satisfied with saying "He's the best winger in the world.". They want to say he's more because they feel they should, he's not.
Wait, is this the goal?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5eQ-mTUTVhU
Is that it? Because if that was your example, all along, then I can't believe it. He hopped over two players who slide into committed tackles. He didn't weave around any players on their feet, intent on taking the ball off him.
I sure hope, for your sake, that wasn't your example. It was a good goal, and part of Ronaldo's appeal is that he makes people obviously feel like they have to commit so that he doesn't have to weave, because that usually ends with him losing the ball. It was a good example of a good goal, not a good example of truly beating men.
They're really not comparable. Rosicky is leagues better for club and country than Park is. Now and then? Park pops up with a goal around the time of each lunar eclipse...if he gets a game or a lucky deflection.
So then you lose credibility, what more is there to argue? He has proven that he likes to go down when he is frequently halted. So it kind of proves he's not unstoppable.
Either way, we clearly just disagree, so from my end there's not much more to discuss.
In your case or Deano's. It's ultimately amounting to "I think this.", "I disagree.".
-AC
yeah, but that doesnt make him to me at least one of the best 5 players in the world. but its your opinion, so thats fair.
probably whatever i say isnt going to change your mind on so, yeah.
thats not what i meant, what i said was pretty clear. we misunderstood eachother.
i agree with newcastle and liverpool, although the liverpool one is weird. i just dont think they're very good. arsenal should have beaten them 4 times this season by the run of the games, then we'd probably be saying they walk all over them as well.
what im saying dude, and you just basically proved my point, is that villa had the belief to defend and play so well because they got their nose in front and were able to build that belief up. manchester scored 2 against them in the first half hour and that same belief isnt going to be there. the game earlier in the season was just good attacking and movement and a bit of luck with giggs goal.
i just compared them. stacks up pretty well to me. difference of opinion i suppose.
man i dont even know what you're talking about there. i think you're getting what deano said and what i said mixed up.
sorry to bring this up again, i know its been awhile but i just havent had the time to check on the site.