Football (Soccer)

about arsenal buying new players, i think anytime the right player for your team comes up you have to buy. if wenger sees a player who would fit in well with his tactics then i see him buying, but hes not the type of manager to panic buy either. christ arsenals a young team, they need this year to learn and to not have many expectations, which is difficult as they're a big club. in many of the predictions they were being touted for a fifth place finish behind the other big three and tottenham. aston villa look most likely to fill that place though, even though i think arsenal will get back on track soon enough.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Now you've gone and done it.

So, what makes you more qualified than Wenger? What makes you believe that because problems have arisen, he needs to be fired? The problems Arsenal have cannot be fixed by simply buying players.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Not really. In the eyes of people that don't realise what the man has done, and continues to do, for the club. Buying isn't the solution to our problems.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
1) Hahaha, like Adebayor had proven his worth by the time Henry left. He was still just a promising striker who was being thrust into Arsenal's main striker role.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
2) Toure, Gallas and Silvestre are all workable centrebacks.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Djourou is also.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Let's say Wenger buys a defender, and it doesn't solve the problems, which it won't. Then what?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They fail where defenders fail, because they're human. Man Utd have Ferdinand and Vidic, they still concede from set pieces and wherever else it's possible to concede from.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The one argument for buying should be directed at buying a defensive mid or a new goalie if ANYWHERE, certainly not defense. Arsenal's defense isn't shit, theoretically, it just hasn't worked. Gallas/Senderos worked well enough.

-AC

Originally posted by vandalworks
no idea what was said about the 25 yr old? bit mad though.

I'm 90% sure it's Van Persie. Gallas said he started a fight at half-time in the Spurs game and a newspaper (I think it was the Guardian) printed a story at the time claiming he had had an argument with... someone else. Definitely not another 25 year old, though I can't quite recall who it was...

lookin at the arsenal team made me cringe. song and denilson in the middle. christ

arsene needs to buy some heavyweights who are capable of bosting people up. toure and gallas are good defenders but dont have the iron of someone like vidic or terry. the top 3 teams have got at least one quality holding midfield player, if not more. arsenal dont have anyway. diarra was probably the best one and they got rid of him. diaby is the best so the best thing for arsene to do is play him on the wing or up front obviously 😕

Originally posted by Deano
lookin at the arsenal team made me cringe. song and denilson in the middle. christ

arsene needs to buy some heavyweights who are capable of bosting people up. toure and gallas are good defenders but dont have the iron of someone like vidic or terry. the top 3 teams have got at least one quality holding midfield player, if not more. arsenal dont have anyway. diarra was probably the best one and they got rid of him. diaby is the best so the best thing for arsene to do is play him on the wing or up front obviously 😕

Top quality hard defenders arn´t that easy to find if you think about it, the same as holding midfielders like Mascherano. Although Arsenals short passing ball holding system doesn´t really have room for such "barbaric" players imo.

Like I said a while back, eventually their system will be read and come undone against certain teams.

Let's face it, Arsenal are a team of soft, cry-baby whiners. They moan and whinge when they don't win, and start picking on each other like a bunch of dysfunctional orphans in a foster home.

Spurs on the other hand go from strength to strength - 13 points out of 18! That's league-winning form!

John Terry is shit.

I'd not have someone of his kind at Arsenal if you gave him to me for free.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Diaby isn't even close to the answer. He's a terrible tackler and will not stay back on defense since he's a creative CM. He looks like Viera, but he is nowhere near the same.

Diaby just needs someone like Flamini behind him. He's an amazing player.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Let's face it, Arsenal are a team of soft, cry-baby whiners. They moan and whinge when they don't win, and start picking on each other like a bunch of dysfunctional orphans in a foster home.

What? Like David Bentley?

-AC

David Bentley has the moral fortitude of Nelson Mandela compared to Arsenal's motley crew.

Gattuso is what Arsenal need, a bit of lunatic in thier poetic song.

Just found live match Torino v AC Milan with Ronaldinho kaka and Pato in attack, quite impressive🙂

Its here 30 minutes to go

http://calciolink.altervista.org/tv_1_calciolink.php

Yeah, Arsenal need Gattuso.

That's precisely why A.C. Milan bought Flamini.

Flamini had Gattuso and Kaka in his pocket. There's a reason A.C. Milan bought him despite having those two.

If you mean that they now no longer needed him and that Arsenal would do well to buy him, I'd agree that Gattuso in an Arsenal shirt would please me.

Saying that, if A.C. Milan throw away leads to draw 2-2 with Torino, despite having all these players that are strong and experienced, from defense and midfield especially, then surely it proves that it's not a solution to every problem.

-AC

really the only mistake that wengers made was adhering to the financial structure of the club and not giving hleb and flamini more money. if they had those two players still i dont think they'd be having these problems right now. there isnt a problem with the group of players, they just lost 2 of their leaders on the pitch.

Originally posted by Kovacs86
I'm 90% sure it's Van Persie. Gallas said he started a fight at half-time in the Spurs game and a newspaper (I think it was the Guardian) printed a story at the time claiming he had had an argument with... someone else. Definitely not another 25 year old, though I can't quite recall who it was...

Walcott.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
David Bentley has the moral fortitude of Nelson Mandela compared to Arsenal's motley crew.

Bentley's a horrible ****. 18 million pounds 'worth' of one-trick tosser.

Originally posted by Phat J
really the only mistake that wengers made was adhering to the financial structure of the club and not giving hleb and flamini more money. if they had those two players still i dont think they'd be having these problems right now. there isnt a problem with the group of players, they just lost 2 of their leaders on the pitch.

By giving Flamini that wage, they then have to raise everyone when it comes to them wanting to leave. Only Chelsea can afford to do that. Man Utd do it as well, but they don't mind being in unworkable debt.

they'd also have won some trophies..

man utd in unworkable debt, two premier leagues and a champions league.

arsenal in good financial shape, havent won anything in years and are now worse off than last year instead of getting better.

it depends on how you look at it i guess.

You can't guarantee that.

You can't say they would have won the league last year had they an extra man.

Man Utd and Chelsea have money sources that mean they can keep paying Ronaldo 120 thousand a week to keep him there.

If Arsenal go into unworkable debt to buy players, they won't be able to keep the wage they pay their players currently, or raise accordingly to keep them. Gallas and co already earn much less than their peers and right now, they're fine with that. If they stop being fine with it, I'd rather we have the money to keep them than replace them.

-AC

no, i'm saying this year if they had flamini and hleb who were such an integral part of their success last year they probably wouldnt be in the state they're in now.

i remember seeing on a show that they earned relatively close to what the other top teams paid their players. i might be wrong though.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, Arsenal need Gattuso.

That's precisely why A.C. Milan bought Flamini.

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If you mean that they now no longer needed him and that Arsenal would do well to buy him, I'd agree that Gattuso in an Arsenal shirt would please me.

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What?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Bentley's a horrible ****. 18 million pounds 'worth' of one-trick tosser.

Makes you wonder why Wenger sold him; he'd be the identikit Arsenal player at the moment.

AC Milan didn´t draw against Torino because of Gattuso not doing his thing, ie flattening people. The defense including an aging Maldini was a bit confused from what I saw, and having amazing offensive players like Kaka, Pato, Ronaldinho (who looks in form now), and Schevchenko on the pitch all at once spoiled the plan a bit.

As for Wages, most players nowadays, maybe due to over eager agents, are after the money lets face it. And if Arsenal can´t afford to keep top players then they are going to end up not having them eventually. You can´t be consistent with only young players you need some experience in there as well, so its a bit of a balancing act for Wenger really.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Diaby just needs someone like Flamini behind him. He's an amazing player.

Looks like all English clubs are going through again.