Football (Soccer)

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Various replies to Ya Krunk'd Floo version of Question time.
-AC [/B]

You failed to comment on his boring Liverpool comment, loosing your touch or run out of negative algorithms 😆 .

Originally questioned by Ya Krunk'd Floo

Q: Which player out of the top 4 leagues (England, Italy, Spain, Germany) will score the most goals this season?

A:-Vedad Ibisevic 1899 Hoffenheim Top of the Bundesliga, scored 18 already I think

Q:-Who will Man City buy in January?
A:- Kaka

Q:- Is Geovanni good, or is he just having a fluke season?
A:- He´s good

Q:- Who else is addicted to Football Manager? Best buys?
A:- nope, im near bottom of this fantasy thing, wouldn´t be fun for me.

Q:- AC, you're a fish.
A:- which type of fish

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Michael Daaaahahahaha.

I like the sound of him. French?

Juande Ramos...What a joke! I knew he wouldn't amount to anything after being sacked by Spurs.

God knows what Real were thinking hiring him, considering the fact that even Sevilla fans don't seem to think he's up to much...

Arsenal were totaly embarrassed tonight.

I know, all those first teamers, all that cohesiveness, in a Champions' League game that wasn't even essential.

To lose 2-0, how abominable.

People seem to love it when Arsenal have masses of players out just so they can have something to criticise.

It's massively inconsistent playing and a massively inconsistent TEAM. I don't know when the last time was that a full starting 11 played five games in a row.

It's not like these excuses are coming out of thin air.

Yes Krunk'd, Arsenal are shit etc.

-AC

Originally posted by Nihilist
Arsenal were totaly embarrassed tonight.

Losing 2-0 away to Porto with a second string team, in a pointless match? The shame.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I know, all those first teamers, all that cohesiveness, in a Champions' League game that wasn't even essential.

To lose 2-0, how abominable.

People seem to love it when Arsenal have masses of players out just so they can have something to criticise.

It's massively inconsistent playing and a massively inconsistent TEAM. I don't know when the last time was that a full starting 11 played five games in a row.

It's not like these excuses are coming out of thin air.

Yes Krunk'd, Arsenal are shit etc.

-AC

Originally posted by Nihilist
having no first teamers is arsene wengers fault for having a piss poor squad and not spending money.not essential game......finishing second and possibly facing the top teams in europe with such a weak squad/team.

It's not weak squad, it's poor timing.

Arsenal's full strength second string of what are essentially reserves are capable of beating a full strength Wigan, but that's because they were an entire cohesive team.

Same with first teamers. It's not squad, it's injuries making picking a starting 11 very hard.

Rosicky is out 'til Spring, Eduardo is just coming back. Sagna, Gallas, Nasri, Diaby, Clichy, Walcott and Adebayor have all been rotating injuries.

All this and we're still fourth, beaten both of our closest rivals so far etc.

As for qualifying, people said the same last year, and we made history.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not weak squad, it's poor timing.

Arsenal's full strength second string of what are essentially reserves are capable of beating a full strength Wigan, but that's because they were an entire cohesive team.

Same with first teamers. It's not squad, it's injuries making picking a starting 11 very hard.

Rosicky is out 'til Spring, Eduardo is just coming back. Sagna, Gallas, Nasri, Diaby, Clichy, Walcott and Adebayor have all been rotating injuries.

All this and we're still fourth, beaten both of our closest rivals so far etc.

As for qualifying, people said the same last year, and we made history.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Losing 2-0 away to Porto with a second string team, in a pointless match? The shame.

hardly pointless. they could of done with goin top of the group to avoid any big guns in the next round

Originally posted by Deano
hardly pointless. they could of done with goin top of the group to avoid any big guns in the next round

They wouldn't though, would they?

Real Madrid are big guns. Inter Milan are big guns.

Fielding a second squad in a competition where your already through to the next round isn´t such a bad idea imo, it might even be a good strategic move.

The argument that they will get the "big guns" is silly, as all the teams who get through to the K,O stage can beat any other team taking part on their day. The "big guns" arn´t that impressive as they once were, look at Real Madrid, Inter & yes even Liverpool.

You give the first team players more time to regenerate for the league, where Arsenal are in danger of loosing touch with the top teams.

As a Chess player I can appreciate Wengers move, although it must be frustrating for Arsenal fans loosing on the international stage.

What's frustrating is the losses against Hull, Fulham, the draw against Spurs etc.

That's what gets me, and I assume us, the most. Because then we can go and outplay Man Utd, Chelsea, A.C. Milan and any club in the world when we play our best. It's the inconsistency that's frustrating, because as Ruud Gullit and Graeme Sounness have said;

"We don't criticise Arsenal to be nasty, we'd say they're the one team to watch if you had to put your money down. We criticise them because they should be doing so much better than this, they consistently play some of the best football in the world, but also consistently lose games the shouldn't.".

A lot of it is, as I said, inconsistency of team, not just effort. Eduardo is a big miss, as is Rosicky. Mostly Eduardo, though, because he's the best finisher in the league and when we need someone to poach shit or bury those one on ones, we need him.

A kid burns his hand on the oven and doesn't do it again, that's how I look at the losses the youngsters have. Experience gained.

Maldini didn't become the world's best ever defender by being perfect.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
They wouldn't though, would they?

Real Madrid are big guns. Inter Milan are big guns.

i dunno about madrid anymore.

That was his point.

People are judging by names. Arsenal should be favourites to beat Inter or Real Madrid at the moment, if we put a decent team out.

As for Barca; they're clearly the biggest threat. However, they lost to Shaktar Donehsk the other day, so they are capable, more than, of losing to Arsenal.

-AC

Maybe thats the problem with Arsenals style of play, they can reach a very high level of play, probably higher than any other team. But it is hard to stay consistent at that level, so when they come down a bit, or face a destructive team, they end up having major problems.

Adaptation probably being the key word here.

The age of the team and their inexperience, and the Emphasis on one style of play might explain it.

I don't think Arsenal have many problems really.

The only thing I'd say is that they don't close people down enough, like Flamini did. He never gave anybody room to breathe in midfield, much less have shots that went in. Aside from that, maybe hassle the ball more and just concentrate on killing teams off.

The problem with Spurs, for example, wasn't only slack concentration, it was out persistence, at 4-2 up, to keep going for more. It was enough.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As for Barca; they're clearly the biggest threat. However, they lost to Shaktar Donehsk the other day, so they are capable, more than, of losing to Arsenal.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
...as Ruud Gullit and Graeme Sounness have said;

"We don't criticise Arsenal to be nasty, we'd say they're the one team to watch if you had to put your money down. We criticise them because they should be doing so much better than this, they consistently play some of the best football in the world, but also consistently lose games the shouldn't.".

Did they say it in choral unison? How sweet.

But what is the definition of "good football".

If nice combination, short passing nice looking football doesn´t get you the results then maybe it isn´t "good football", maybe it just looks good.

After all its the results which count.