Football (Soccer)

Lol at Barcelona, They may be the best team right now but they are one of the worst cheaters at history. Chelsea, Arsenal, Inter, now Real Madrid. All the teams always end up with 10.

The funniest thing of is that, if they didn't show a red card to Pepe, the guy who didn't let Messi to do a thing in the Spanish Cup, the wouldn't have win 2-0 at the first semi-final game and would have lost the semi-final with 1-1 at home.

And I am not even counting the pathetic goal they took from Higuain. Most pathetic display of a paid referee since the 5 penalties Barça made vs Chelsea.

That's why I really don't like Barcelona. They are a great team, but they can only win every single thing thanks to the 12 man on the field...

Originally posted by Darth Angel
Lol at Barcelona, They may be the best team right now but they are one of the worst cheaters at history. Chelsea, Arsenal, Inter, now Real Madrid. All the teams always end up with 10.

The funniest thing of is that, if they didn't show a red card to Pepe, the guy who didn't let Messi to do a thing in the Spanish Cup, the wouldn't have win 2-0 at the first semi-final game and would have lost the semi-final with 1-1 at home.

And I am not even counting the pathetic goal they took from Higuain. Most pathetic display of a paid referee since the 5 penalties Barça made vs Chelsea.

That's why I really don't like Barcelona. They are a great team, but they can only win every single thing thanks to the 12 man on the field...

The Pepe sending off was harsh, imo, as was disallowing Higuain's goal. They were as bad as each other, though. Both tried to cheat their way through it plenty of times.

The Pepe sending off was undoubtedly harsh.....made even wore by the fat that alves wasnt even touched ad milked it heavily.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The Pepe sending off was harsh, imo, as was disallowing Higuain's goal. They were as bad as each other, though. Both tried to cheat their way through it plenty of times.

That being said, both teams displayed a serious lack of sportsmanship, but that's what football has become: dives and manipulating the referee. Both Pedro and Adebayor should've been sent off just for that.

Originally posted by Slay
You're a complete idiot if you think Pepe's sending off was unjust. You're seriously buying into Jose Mourinho's ridiculous (albeit hilarious) anti-Barcelona propaganda?

There is no propaganda, there is facts seen by people by years! I already knew what was going to happen. I said to all my friends before the match even started "Barcelona will win the game after a red card, just like they usually do". And it did happen AGAIN.

8 games ending the game with 10 players vs Barça

Chelsea was robbed since the stupid Wayne Bridge red card from something who was at most a yellow card vs young Messi diver.
Then they rob Chelsea again 2 years ago.
Arsenal was patheticaly robbed. Van Pierse kicked the ball less then 1 second after the whistle and gets a red card for that? Lol.
Vs Real Madrid they spent all the game trying to take Pepe off the game. See the game again and see the constant diving and simulations of face contact.

Ah, and lol at Mascherano rolling in the ground, grabing his leg after Ronaldo touch his leg with his back! I don't remember him being a diver in Liverpool, he already learned the lesson

I mean, it is all but pathetic. You hardly ever see anything go against Barça. Every single play has the most favourable decision for barcelona in 90% of the occasion.

Originally posted by Slay
I agree that Higuain's goal shouldn't have been disallowed, but when it comes to Pepe's tackle, he went in way too hard, which warrants a red card. You can talk about the way it looked in the replay, but it was very dangerous play and there have to be consequences for that, whether he knocks his legs off or not.

That being said, both teams displayed a serious lack of sportsmanship, but that's what football has become: dives and manipulating the referee. Both Pedro and Adebayor should've been sent off just for that.

I don't think the intent was there. Guys do that plenty, and get barely booked. Had it not been for Alves' reaction, I don't think he would have been sent off, personally.

I wonder which Man U player will get sent of so Barca can win, my moneys on Rooney.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
I wonder which Man U player will get sent of so Barca can win, my moneys on Rooney.

Yeah, Rooney or the defensive midfielder who will be tackling Messi.

I am just supporting Man Utd so much for that game...

Originally posted by Darth Angel
Yeah, Rooney or the defensive midfielder who will be tackling Messi.

I am just supporting Man Utd so much for that game...

Me too, after Barca´s diving antiks in the last game. Not only that I´m convinced that FIFA try to influence the winners of big tournaments, subtly. So that the football they think should be played wins.

On the other hand, I think Messi is amazing. Such pace, skill and finishing. If he does his magic and they win that way then that would be ok I suppose.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Me too, after Barca´s diving antiks in the last game. Not only that I´m convinced that FIFA try to influence the winners of big tournaments, subtly. So that the football they think should be played wins.

On the other hand, I think Messi is amazing. Such pace, skill and finishing. If he does his magic and they win that way then that would be ok I suppose.

I have no problem with that if he doesn't do it against 10 players again or every single tackle on him ends in a yellow card for Man Utd.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
I wonder which Man U player will get sent of so Barca can win, my moneys on Rooney.

Vidic, I'd say.

eieieio up the league table we go...

2-5 to the Liverpool yesterday!
Just need to win the next 2 matches in order to really solidify a potential CL position. 😄

Originally posted by Darth Angel
There is no propaganda, there is facts seen by people by years! I already knew what was going to happen. I said to all my friends before the match even started "Barcelona will win the game after a red card, just like they usually do". And it did happen AGAIN.

8 games ending the game with 10 players vs Barça

Chelsea was robbed since the stupid Wayne Bridge red card from something who was at most a yellow card vs young Messi diver.
Then they rob Chelsea again 2 years ago.
Arsenal was patheticaly robbed. Van Pierse kicked the ball less then 1 second after the whistle and gets a red card for that? Lol.
Vs Real Madrid they spent all the game trying to take Pepe off the game. See the game again and see the constant diving and simulations of face contact.

Ah, and lol at Mascherano rolling in the ground, grabing his leg after Ronaldo touch his leg with his back! I don't remember him being a diver in Liverpool, he already learned the lesson

I mean, it is all but pathetic. You hardly ever see anything go against Barça. Every single play has the most favourable decision for barcelona in 90% of the occasion.

Where were you people after Gerrard's ridiculous dive in the 2005 CL final, which won them the cup? Or the World Cup final this year, when the Netherlands got called out for being foul players, while the entire Spanish team kept on diving and bitching. Making actually play impossible. Half of those players play at Barcelona and now they're doing it against Réal, you're calling them out for it?

What I see happening is that clubs that are on top for a while keep getting called out for their players diving and trying to manipulate a ref.

For the record, not saying this problem shouldn't dealt with by FIFA, but it's ridiculous to just suddenly start bitching about it when Barcelona start doing it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think the intent was there. Guys do that plenty, and get barely booked. Had it not been for Alves' reaction, I don't think he would have been sent off, personally.

its a shame because barca dont need to resort to those tactics. they are the best team in the world, but why they dive around like that is beyond me

Yeah, yeah, I'd link you to the video on the Réal site, but I can't be arsed. Also, diving and whining for cards has become inherent to football, it happens in every competition in the world, Réal isn't innocent to that either.

Where were you people after Gerrard's ridiculous dive in the 2005 CL final, which won them the cup? Or the World Cup final this year, when the Netherlands got called out for being foul players, while the entire Spanish team kept on diving and bitching. Making actually play impossible. Half of those players play at Barcelona and now they're doing it against Réal, you're calling them out for it?

What I see happening is that clubs that are on top for a while keep getting called out for their players diving and trying to manipulate a ref.

For the record, not saying this problem shouldn't dealt with by FIFA, but it's ridiculous to just suddenly start bitching about it when Barcelona start doing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0om9WD8AsI

And it's different to have an ocasional bad decision then constant beneficial decisions dude...

Originally posted by Deano
its a shame because barca dont need to resort to those tactics. they are the best team in the world, but why they dive around like that is beyond me

Because they won't be so sucessful obviously. Example: the only champions league they won in the last 4 years, the so called best team in the world, was due to the Stanford Bridge robbery. Obviously if half the penalties that happened in that game were scored then Messi woudn't have won a single one yet.

Anyway, I will stop complaining. I just hope the final will be clean. It's Wembley after all, it's almost a blasmephy to rob an english team there lol.

Originally posted by Darth Angel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0om9WD8AsI

And it's different to have an ocasional bad decision then constant beneficial decisions dude...

The first one could've been given as a penalty but good luck finding any referee that actually will , the second one not a chance, the third one, if anything, it should've been a free kick but he clearly hit the ball first when he tackled him inside the penalty area. Then Pique's handball was clearly not on purpose, and Eto'o's one wasn't even hands, as he wasn't hit on his lower arms.

Yes, but see, constant beneficial decisions aren't exclusive to Barcelona. In fact, Real has always had the referee on their side, and I'm not just talking about the Franco era where he basically demanded that Barcelona would lose 14-0 to Real in order for Real to still become champions.

Barcelona have always been a rather clean club, and now that a couple of their players start diving and trying to manipulate the referee they get a shitstorm of critique. I'd say it's good they get with the program as clubs like Real have been doing it for years, even in the last couple of matches against Barcelona and you know it. Besides you're acting as if every decision a referee has made in the past that was beneficial to Barcelona has been unjust. What are you? A Mourinho fan, a Real fan or just a casual Barcelona hater?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgBVOZGtZY

I suppose this is a dive as well?

Yuck, yuck, yuck. I completely despise when players dive and cheat.

It's a shame that Barcelona resorted to these tactics but please, it's becoming a major issue in the ENTIRE football world, this isn't explicit to just one Spanish club. Real has Ronaldo, and let's face it, that bastard is probably the king of diving.

Originally posted by Slay
The first one could've been given as a penalty but good luck finding any referee that actually will , the second one not a chance, the third one, if anything, it should've been a free kick but he clearly hit the ball first when he tackled him inside the penalty area.

I stop reading right here. Do you know that Abidal just HAS to see a red card for that right? He grabbed Drogba like there was no tomorow and he was the last man between him and the net... Any other team would be reduced to 10 men and the match would be over for Barcelona.

I am sorry dude but if you fail to see simple things like this then you are clearly bias towards Barcelona. Discussion ends here for me.

As for Ronaldo as a diver, to be honest since he got to Real you barely see him taking a dive nowadays.

Originally posted by Darth Angel
I stop reading right here. Do you know that Abidal just HAS to see a red card for that right? He grabbed Drogba like there was no tomorow and he was the last man between him and the net... Any other team would be reduced to 10 men and the match would be over for Barcelona.

I am sorry dude but if you fail to see simple things like this then you are clearly bias towards Barcelona. Discussion ends here for me.

As for Ronaldo as a diver, to be honest since he got to Real you barely see him taking a dive nowadays.

It's funny you would say I'm biased towards anything. Especially while ending a post with a comment like that.

Originally posted by Liberator
Yuck, yuck, yuck. I completely despise when players dive and cheat.

It's a shame that Barcelona resorted to these tactics but please, it's becoming a major issue in the ENTIRE football world, this isn't explicit to just one Spanish club. Real has Ronaldo, and let's face it, that bastard is probably the king of diving.