Football (Soccer)

Originally posted by It's xyz!
wow, so butt hurt.

As for removing away goals rule, that really gives an advantage to the second leg team.

Would it though? Depending on how the first leg goes, I don't think that's true at all.

Hoping athletico Madrid win champs league getting my prediction in now

Ugh, Real Madrid win again. Athletico has no one but itself to blame though, that Griezman PK fail was disastrous.

Both teams disappointed, imo. Not a great match in general.

I think Atletico did what they could. Real closed up shop after their first goal. But yeah not that great a game. Especially the ET was dreadful.

I think it is. Home advantage is a thing and whichever team is at home for the second leg will definitely play better. The away goals rule diminishes this.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not really, I'm not a Bayern fan.

Would it though? Depending on how the first leg goes, I don't think that's true at all.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
I think it is. Home advantage is a thing and whichever team is at home for the second leg will definitely play better. The away goals rule diminishes this.

The second leg is more decisive too.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Don't really agree but whatever.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
The second leg is more decisive too.

It's more like this.

1-0 first leg

With the away goals rule, winning 2-1 means the winners of the first leg qualify because they've arguably played better. It's harder to score away and they kept a clean sheet. It encourages teams to play better instead of having insane 4-3 games where players are likely to get injured.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
It's more like this.

1-0 first leg

With the away goals rule, winning 2-1 means the winners of the first leg qualify because they've arguably played better. It's harder to score away and they kept a clean sheet. It encourages teams to play better instead of having insane 4-3 games where players are likely to get injured.

Where the away goals rule really bugs me is in cases where teams draw in both games but because one team only drew at 1-1 at home and 2-2 away they go forward even though both teams played about evenly in both matches. I think in such examples the rule is indefensible.

I don't really want games to go to extra time and PKs either, but I believe we need some alternative to an outdated rule that came about when scoring away from home was much harder than it is today. Extra time is a better test of which team is better and built for a deep tournament run than just "okay, how well did you do in the other team's house?"

If player health is the major concern, the solution might be to ditch extra time and just go straight to PKs, although PKs have their own issues, as they're mostly just a test of who has the better keeper.

Eh, penos are about more than that, I would argue.

Anyway, I don't think replays are a good alternative either, tbh, so what's the best option?

The problem with that is the second leg away team is at a disadvantage should it come to extra time.

With away goals rule, the idea is centred around not conceding at home.

Don't underestimate away fixtures, they're still a problem, and injuries are very detrimental in today's game. Extra time being avoided is a good thing to me.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That can be true, but it may also come down to luck in a lot of cases.

Where the away goals rule really bugs me is in cases where teams draw in both games but because one team only drew at 1-1 at home and 2-2 away they go forward even though both teams played about evenly in both matches. I think in such examples the rule is indefensible.

I don't really want games to go to extra time and PKs either, but I believe we need some alternative to an outdated rule that came about when scoring away from home was much harder than it is today. Extra time is a better test of which team is better and built for a deep tournament run than just "okay, how well did you do in the other team's house?"

If player health is the major concern, the solution might be to ditch extra time and just go straight to PKs, although PKs have their own issues, as they're mostly just a test of who has the better keeper.

I still feel like all we're saying is that the away goals rule is possibly the best choice out of a set of bad choices. If there's a better alternative we should look for it.

Eh, I honestly think extra time and penalties is better, but to each his own.

And I say this as a supporter of teams that have both won and lost due to the away goals rule. It can be a cruel mistress, or a lucky friend.

There really is no alternative.

The FA decided on neutral grounds and later Wembley for semifinals, but neither look practical in Europe.

Speaking of, I think it's a huge mistake for Spurs to play their home games at Wembley. Sure, they'll get some nice gate receipts, but White Hart Lane is a far more imposing stadium to play in than Wembley.

Do you think Spurs will win EPL next season?

Just found an Uruguayan national team jersey for 20 bucks at Ross. Now my ability to bite people has increased dramatically as I'm channeling Luis Suarez.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Do you think Spurs will win EPL next season?

I very much doubt it. As good as they were for a good portion of the season, they bottled it towards the end, and even Harry Kane was right in saying that there was no point in talking about how they had such a great season, only to finish behind Arsenal.

I honestly think Spurs would be lucky to get a top six finish next year. As much as I loathe Mourinho, he's gotten in to the habit of winning trophies, and I expect United to challenge for the top spot next season, especially with such good young players coming through.

Then you've got the likes of Arsenal, City who just got Guardiola, and of course Chelsea looking to forget the disastrous season they had.

I think Spurs are capable, mind you. If they keep their best players. I just don't think it's likely.