The Nooooooo scene [Merged]

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i personally think the no was correct also and i had no complains about the movie it was awesome!

The NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO was terrible. Perfect opportunity for JEJ to come from the gut with that deep, kick ass voice. Instead it was real...whimpy...and the edit was terrible and quick.

The no is weak because Vader is NOT the hardened villian he is in the OT. At this point, he's just a weak, scared teenager who's in too deep and doesn't know what to do about it. He's hurt, scared and confused, not hardened and evil.

SORRY....

The no is weak because it is poor delivery and a weakly directed scene. I don't see how that can be rationalized.

Originally posted by tlbauerle
SORRY....

The no is weak because it is poor delivery and a weakly directed scene. I don't see how that can be rationalized.

While I agree, I believe I would be hard pressed to yell in a manly fashion after amputations, being burnt alive awaking encased in plastic and being told my wife AND child were dead.

Yeah it isnt a straight up nothing but rage scream, it is a sad broken hate filled scream.

"I'm supposed to look evil and I can't even fracking walk straight.....life sucks!!!"

The guy went from the cover of GQ to a walking Burger King ad, he was heart broken.

I think it's good for one important reason. The concept of Star Wars was always that of the old serials, like Buck Rogers. The OT had a certain aspect of that in it. The PT is very shiny and polished and modern. I didn't realize this until a few hours ago but think about it...

One of the biggest problems with the PT is that the atmosphere and the overall style is so modern compared to the OT so it seems out of place. Starting with the Frankensteiny, "Nooo!" scene, everything seems to go back into a more old-fashioned style. ESPECIALLY with that scene. I think it makes a GREAT transition because of this, and I think that's the point.

Originally posted by astrofan428
Yeah it isnt a straight up nothing but rage scream, it is a sad broken hate filled scream.

I dunno...all the force crushing things was pretty rage-like.

True, but he is still broken as hell.

It was like after the tusken slaughter, he was definatly enraged but also hurting and full of guilt.

People can be distraught with sadness but take it out physically in a violent way without the violence being precipitated by anger... I've done it before.

😈 You're stuck in the same suit for the next twenty-eight years!

🙁 NOOOOoooooooo!

I havent read thru this post to see if someone said same but this is my thought on this....not bad for Vaders first mechanical voice and movement...bout what i expected....cmon what would you do if you were in Annies postion...you wouldnt be half as graceful in movement or thought(voice)...I would have busted the cuffs and fell on my face...lol!!!

What's stupid about people's whining and nitpicking is that they fail to see and understand the context of what is being presented in this particular scene.

Vader here is not the same Vader as presented in the OT...to say 'oh I lost all respect for Vader' etc, all while forgetting that he'd just been used like a tool, abused, and been through physical and emotional armageddon, is simply pathetic.

Originally posted by Lazerlike42

One of the biggest problems with the PT is that the atmosphere and the overall style is so modern compared to the OT so it seems out of place. Starting with the Frankensteiny, "Nooo!" scene, everything seems to go back into a more old-fashioned style. ESPECIALLY with that scene. I think it makes a GREAT transition because of this, and I think that's the point.

Excellent observation!

Originally posted by Darth_Vader05
People this is when Darth Vader is still human he isnt fully evil until A New Hope come on people.

Actually I think it was at that very moment that Anakin truley becomes Darth Vader, fully accepting his fate. Padme was his last link to the name "Anakin" because that is who he was with her. Notice that when she called him by his name, after Sidious had renamed him, he never corrected her by saying somthing like "That name no longer has any meaning for me".

Originally posted by Sparks
Actually I think it was at that very moment that Anakin truley becomes Darth Vader, fully accepting his fate. Padme was his last link to the name "Anakin" because that is who he was with her. Notice that when she called him by his name, after Sidious had renamed him, he never corrected her by saying somthing to like "That name no longer has any meaning for me".

True, even when fighting Obi-Wan he responds to Anakin.

I didn't have any problem with the line, it also seemed like an ironic reference to the Empire Strikes Back.

Problem with the line...no

Delivery...yes.