The Nooooooo scene [Merged]

Started by DaveTheHutt10 pages

The scene wasn't great, but it wasn't appalling either. I agree that what should have been such an iconic moment was fluffed, but it doesn't ruin the film. In the context of the story it makes sense - Anakin has lost the one thing he sacrificed everything else to save, his true love.

And can I just say: I love those literary geniuses who slag Lucas for his writing, but then suggest their own alternatives such as 'Why!?!' or 'Aaaaargh!!!!'. Oh yeah - they'd be *much* better choices!

Hutt out

It was cheesy, no doubt, but that can be said for much of the dialogue in this movie. it served its purpose, the last bit of emotion we see out of Anakin/vadar untill ROTJ

Re: The Nooooooo scene

Originally posted by Jedi_KnightAlly

That was so badly done.


Yup. Bad acting.

ewoks are dumb you dont sound like a true starwars fan, first of all the profecy is true but was misread if you read the book it will tell you all the informatio you need to know,first of all the procery was meant for anakin to bring balance to the force he did they by going to the dark side because he wanted to save the love of his life and it was his love of his son that turned him back to anakin and he defended palp. In the book it states that the jedi order did not change with the times and kept with the strict old times and this was why the jedi fell. The new jedi order was to start with anakins children luke and leia.

destroyed not defend*

the nooooo scene

i think it would have been better if he smashed something with his fists. we already seen his strength while pulling himself free from the iron bands....if he smashed something in a violent animal rage it would certainly give more reason as to why he became so damn evil in the original trilogies.

also, when palpatine was encouraging anakin to kill dooku thus betraying his then apprentice, why for the love of god didn't dooku grass in palpatine by telling anakin "he's the dark lord of the sith by the way". i thought all sith were supposed to be treacherous

Re: The Nooooooo scene

Originally posted by Jedi_KnightAlly
Did anyone else think this was just not darth vader?

The point when Vader asks sidious, What happened to padme? And sidious replys... You killed her.

He then does a ridiculous "NOOOOOOOOOO"

That was so badly done.

i totally feel ya there. absolutely.
it was such a cliche scene, like the person kneeling over a dead child,
raising his hand and looking up at the sky and screaming "WHYYYYY!!!!!!!" which also reminded me of 'half-baked' with the cop and the dead horse.

just a bad bad bad bad finish to an otherwise awesome scene... and thats why it stings the most.

it just left a very sour taste..........god it was corny.

True SW then. 😉

Absolutely- I mean, what is this? SW does cliche shock horror? The whole thing is cliche! Revel in it.

i understand that SW can be hokey, but that just crossed the line well into corny as shit. its like, GL was making that scene last and said "aaahhh f*** it, just say "NOOOOO!!!!!" and record and print, im done with this shit", and walked out the door.

No, frankly, strikes me as spot on Star Wars stuff.

It's not my favourite scen but it doesn't bother me one bit too be honest. Unlike the "because of me love for you" line.. I mean THAT is crossing the line. Fortunately ROTS has plenty to make up for the shitty details.

Re: Re: The Nooooooo scene

Originally posted by PVS
i totally feel ya there. absolutely.
it was such a cliche scene, like the person kneeling over a dead child,
raising his hand and looking up at the sky and screaming "WHYYYYY!!!!!!!" which also reminded me of 'half-baked' with the cop and the dead horse.

just a bad bad bad bad finish to an otherwise awesome scene... and thats why it stings the most.

it just left a very sour taste..........god it was corny.

I respond to this and every similar statement with my previous post:

I think it's good for one important reason. The concept of Star Wars was always that of the old serials, like Buck Rogers. The OT had a certain aspect of that in it. The PT is very shiny and polished and modern. I didn't realize this until a few hours ago but think about it...

One of the biggest problems with the PT is that the atmosphere and the overall style is so modern compared to the OT so it seems out of place. Starting with the Frankensteiny, "Nooo!" scene, everything seems to go back into a more old-fashioned style. ESPECIALLY with that scene. I think it makes a GREAT transition because of this, and I think that's the point.

all i know is that there was more hokeyness in that film than you can fit in the grand canyon, as well as every other SW film. but when it come to the climax of the film, its supposed to hit home.

"NOOOOOOO" is a SW tradition, and should be done right. think of ewan's "NOOOOO" in tpm....was that corny? luke in anh when ben is 'killed'. those were some spledid 'NOOOOO's. this one....they werent even trying 😬

Re: Re: Re: The Nooooooo scene

Originally posted by Lazerlike42
I respond to this and every similar statement with my previous post:

I think it's good for one important reason. The concept of Star Wars was always that of the old serials, like Buck Rogers. The OT had a certain aspect of that in it. The PT is very shiny and polished and modern. I didn't realize this until a few hours ago but think about it...

One of the biggest problems with the PT is that the atmosphere and the overall style is so modern compared to the OT so it seems out of place. Starting with the Frankensteiny, "Nooo!" scene, everything seems to go back into a more old-fashioned style. ESPECIALLY with that scene. I think it makes a GREAT transition because of this, and I think that's the point.

i understand what you are saying. the script HAD to read "NOOOOO".
it HAD to have emotion. but that scene (audio) just struck me as a "screw it...first take gets it...im going home" scene

As queeq says, it really wasn't problematic enough to bother me any.

Way more bothered by, for example, shoe-horning Qui-Gon in like that with no decent explanation.

Qui-gon should have been in but I am led to believe it was contractual.

Also, the no came across exactly as intended. As you will see stated in a number of ways in the preceding posts in this thread, the no is NOT that of the hardened, hateful angry Vader we know from the OT, but rather a teenage kid who has got himself in over his head and doesn't know what to do, and who has just been through emotional and physical trauma that very, very few that have ever lived could compare with. It's a "nooo" of weakness, pain, fear, and above all defeat, not anger.

He was probably overcome with emotion, choked up and could barely make any sound at all. Defeat is the key.... the "nooo" is Anakin Skywalker's last words before Vader consumes him. The "nooo" is one of defeat and surrender.

It is not a "let's take the first cut," but rather exactly what was planned by someone taking into account the proper context and perspective of the scene.

My opinion is that the scene could have been changed around a bit. First of all, when Palps picks up Crispy Jedi, he could have asked about Padme then. When Palps tells him she's dead, he causes an avalanche or something like that. Palps and the Clones grab him and run away. Then, when Vader awakens, he's the cold evil we expect him to be, not the "Where's Padme" Franken-Vader that he was.

i cant beleive what i am hearing GL is a genius and he did it perfectly. if you saw it at a digital cinema you would have felt every tremble of the noooo scene when the force was flowing through him causing an earthquake. as laserlike said he turned to the dark side out of weakness. his only goal was to save his wife and kids. he was being a good father hence Vader.

Worse scene in the movie..... should have, could have been so much more..... I agree a primevil(sp) scream would have been much more vaderish and heart wrentching. Instead I just sat there, staring at the baddest man in the universe and thought....

what a pussy