What if Aliens exist?

It's almost embarrassing to see all these 'believers' that have no justification for their belief in extra-terrestrial life other than the but-there-have-to-be-aliens-because-of-all-the-planents/solar systems/galaxies/etc. argument.

Has no one even bothered to see if there's a scientific method or theory that may be able to prove "life-out-there"?

Three words: the Drake equation. Look it up.

Anyway, aliens' relationship to Earth's religions; how would religion be affected at all? Half (maybe more) of the bible has been systematically proven false, and still people cling to their belief in a Higher Power. The proof of life in the universe does nothing to dispute the Bible, other than Genesis (which much of the Christian community consider to be highly metaphorical, not literal).

I don't know where in the Bible it says that humans can't leave our planet, but if anyone can point me in the right direction, please do.

Originally posted by enjoyyrworries
It's almost embarrassing to see all these 'believers' that have no justification for their belief in extra-terrestrial life other than the but-there-have-to-be-aliens-because-of-all-the-planents/solar systems/galaxies/etc. argument.

Has no one even bothered to see if there's a scientific method or theory that may be able to prove "life-out-there"?

Three words: the Drake equation. Look it up.

Anyway, aliens' relationship to Earth's religions; how would religion be affected at all? Half (maybe more) of the bible has been systematically proven false, and still people cling to their belief in a Higher Power. The proof of life in the universe does nothing to dispute the Bible, other than Genesis (which much of the Christian community consider to be highly metaphorical, not literal).

I don't know where in the Bible it says that humans can't leave our planet, but if anyone can point me in the right direction, please do.

I think perhaps it's the god created "man" in his image and set him above everything else etc. That might be affected by Aliens. I don't know what the thread starter meant.
As for the Drake equation it's working on a lot of premises that may or may not be borne out. Equation does not equal right f the terms and proof are false. Message boarders.

Originally posted by enjoyyrworries
It's almost embarrassing to see all these 'believers' that have no justification for their belief in extra-terrestrial life other than the but-there-have-to-be-aliens-because-of-all-the-planents/solar systems/galaxies/etc. argument.

Has no one even bothered to see if there's a scientific method or theory that may be able to prove "life-out-there"?

Three words: the Drake equation. Look it up.

Anyway, aliens' relationship to Earth's religions; how would religion be affected at all? Half (maybe more) of the bible has been systematically proven false, and still people cling to their belief in a Higher Power. The proof of life in the universe does nothing to dispute the Bible, other than Genesis (which much of the Christian community consider to be highly metaphorical, not literal).

I don't know where in the Bible it says that humans can't leave our planet, but if anyone can point me in the right direction, please do.

It is only logical to conclude there is life elsewhere other than Earth. Our solar system exists on the very edge of our Milky Way Galaxy, not even the center. There are billions and billions of visible galaxies in existance.

It is highly arrogant and unrealistic to beleive that we are the only life in this universe.

Very arrogant indeed. There has to be life on other worlds. Too many galaxies.

They probably know all about us. That's why only the evil ones come here. They play with us when we're sleeping....Ooo

To assume that our planet alone is the only one with life on it is extremely ignorant.

Zecharia Sitchin has proved ,in my opinion, with out a doubt that our civilization and our concept of God was given to us by "Aliens" and they will , one day, come back. The old Testament is just a revised version of the Sumerian creation myths. Abraham,who was the first of the "Hebrew" to tell the stories of Yahweh, was from Ur, a Sumerian city, rebuilt by none semitic invaders who adopted the Sumerian idea of civilization. It was Abraham who tells the story of the Nefilim: Those who descended from The Heavens. What were the Nefilim? If their are any Christians out there looking at this there will be one point that cant be denied. In Genesis God said "Let US make man in OUR Image" There is no mistake in the pluralizing of the Hebrew text translation. Just thought this was an interesting idea.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Very arrogant indeed. There has to be life on other worlds. Too many galaxies.

They probably know all about us. That's why only the evil ones come here. They play with us when we're sleeping....Ooo

hmm debbie I sense you've had an experience or two with the evil ones while you slept? 😆

Aliens do exist, I am proof they are real and on this very fine planet! Right debbie? 😈

The earth would be a pinpoint in an area the size of Europe when compared to the universe.

Not exactly, but ya, we're that small compared to the rest of the universe. How lucky are we that we got one of the good planets?

Then again, aliens could be based on a different element, perhaps one we have yet to discover. They aren't neccessarily carbon based and thus, we may miss them even if we see them.

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
Zecharia Sitchin has proved ,in my opinion, with out a doubt that our civilization and our concept of God was given to us by "Aliens" and they will , one day, come back. The old Testament is just a revised version of the Sumerian creation myths. Abraham,who was the first of the "Hebrew" to tell the stories of Yahweh, was from Ur, a Sumerian city, rebuilt by none semitic invaders who adopted the Sumerian idea of civilization. It was Abraham who tells the story of the Nefilim: Those who descended from The Heavens. What were the Nefilim? If their are any Christians out there looking at this there will be one point that cant be denied. In Genesis God said "Let US make man in OUR Image" There is no mistake in the pluralizing of the Hebrew text translation. Just thought this was an interesting idea.

2012?

At any rate if the universe is infinte aliens do exist. There are probably powerful beings that watch over us.

Aliens don't exist. Just accept it as a fact. Will make your life a whole lot easier.

Originally posted by J_M
Aliens [b]don't exist. Just accept it as a fact. Will make your life a whole lot easier. [/B]

...and again if the universe is infinite that means there are infinite possibilities which therefore means aliens exist. 😬

saying that it is an absolute fact that aliens exist is as ignorant as saying that it is an absolute fact that they do not

even if the universe is infinite, we have no idea how rare the conditions for life are, ESPECIALLY intelligent life.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
what would it mean, to any religion that has at it's core that *a* god(s) created Earth / Life on Earth (with no reference to other planets) and the whole "we are special" thing, if life on other planets is found?

doesn't it make "Genesis", for one, ... um... wrong?

To me there is not a question of 'If' 🙂

The universe is large enough for me to instead say 'Where' in that question 😛

Of course it exists 😄 Maybe not the humanoid alien that many believe in 😛 But some kind of life form has to exist out there 😐

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]To me there is not a question of 'If' 🙂

The universe is large enough for me to instead say 'Where' in that question 😛

Of course it exists 😄 Maybe not the humanoid alien that many believe in 😛 But some kind of life form has to exist out there 😐 [/B]

Originally posted by inimalist
saying that it is an absolute fact that aliens exist is as ignorant as saying that it is an absolute fact that they do not

Originally posted by inimalist
saying that it is an absolute fact that aliens exist is as ignorant as saying that it is an absolute fact that they do not

even if the universe is infinite, we have no idea how rare the conditions for life are, ESPECIALLY intelligent life.

If the universe is infinte doesnt that mean there would be an infinite number of possibilities? 😕

Originally posted by Alfheim
If the universe is infinte doesnt that mean there would be an infinite number of possibilities? 😕

no, how could that possibly work?

Originally posted by inimalist
no, how could that possibly work?

Why wouldnt it? Infinite space enables an infinite number of possibilities , finite space does not.

Reading your post again you actually did not deny that this was not correct. You used the word rare, implying to me that they must exist somewhere.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Why wouldnt it? Infinite space enables an infinite number of possibilities , finite space does not.

Reading your post again you actually did not deny that this was not correct. You used the word rare, implying to me that they must exist somewhere.

it is possible that the conditions that are necessary for life to originate only occurred on our planet. Infinite space does not mean that all possible varieties of variables will be encountered. Think of the infinite monkey on infinite keyboard thing. Really, they would never reproduce Shakespeare, simply because the odds of it occurring are so low that even an infinite amount of monkeys wouldn't do it (provided the moneys have the same probability of hitting each key with each stroke). While it may be enchanting to think of infinite as everything, they are remarkably different terms.

I do personally think that there is something, somewhere, that we could consider as life that originated in conditions either similar or absolutely different than ours. However, as far as anyone knows, this is mere speculation. There is a very small probability that Earth has had unique events in its history, that have not played out elsewhere in the universe, which made life possible.

Originally posted by inimalist
it is possible that the conditions that are necessary for life to originate only occurred on our planet. Infinite space does not mean that all possible varieties of variables will be encountered. Think of the infinite monkey on infinite keyboard thing. Really, they would never reproduce Shakespeare, simply because the odds of it occurring are so low that even an infinite amount of monkeys wouldn't do it (provided the moneys have the same probability of hitting each key with each stroke). While it may be enchanting to think of infinite as everything, they are remarkably different terms.

That doesnt make any sense. First of all if a monkey was infinite it would be more than just a monkey, an infinite keyboard would not be just a keyboard.

In fact if the monkey was infinite it would be everywhere and the keyboard would be everywhere. In fcat the monkey and the keyboard would be the same and the monkey and the keyboard would be everything. Infinite means without end and therefore something infinite has to be everywhere, and something infinite is everything.