I've seen a post like this before and this was my answer,
im not saying any of you are wrong but heres my opinion
an alien doesnt necasarily have to be some futuristic sci fi upright humanoid. it could be something as simple as a one celled organism or bacteria. plus if there were aliens they probably have no idea we exist being that the next closest planet that we even can assume habitable is like 10 light years away i believe it is, anyways, even if there futuristic i still doubt they have any idea where here
If Aliens exist, they exist. Its not like there going to do anything if they do exist. For all we know they could be wondering and doing they same things were doing right now. IF the Aliens happen to be like they are in movies (evil things bent on destruction alone) then we won't be able to defend ourselves. If they are good, people will probably be paranoid and end up killing them.
i believe extraterrestrial life exists.
There is no way, as someone mentioned earlier, that we are the only living organisms in the infinite universe, which is, time-wise, incalculably and impossibly massive to an unimaginable degree of infinite and eternal status.
Don't forget that our Sun is a star. And every star you see in the sky is most likely another sun, millions of light years away from our own star/solar system.
All those stars, including our own Sun, all belong to the Milky Way galaxy which hold about 10-90 billion other stars/Suns like our own, many with planets orbiting them.
Now, this is just our Galaxy, the Milky Way galaxy. There are billions of other galaxies just in our part of the universe, with with alot more stars/Suns with planets orbiting those stars/Suns (totaling in the trillions)
But yet we're all alone amongst all that? Be serious.
And maybe the Bible doesn't mention extraterrestrial life cause why would they i there was no reason to. The Bible's not gonna mention stuff for the sake of just mentioning it.
Does the Bible talk about Pluto or the Andromeda Galaxy (our closest neighboring galaxy). No. Why? Cause it'd be pointless and irrelevant to.
When The Bible said in (Genesis) "God created the Heavens" it meant Outter Space and everything in it too. You ignorant knuckles probably thought that The Heavens just the clouds we see in the air, haha.
"Bless are those whom believe without seeing."
- Moses
"they can't not exist" Is a logical fallacy. The odds of anything we call life existing could be 1 in 10000000 or 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.
Without any way to reduce the uncertainty of that probability, we cannot say for sure either way.
It's get even more profound than what i said.
A group af galaxies, which number in the 100's of billions, is called a star cluster. There are trillions of star clusters just in our region of the cosmos that we're in. So that's not counting the infinite amount of other star clusters that are unimaginably far, and unimaginably bigger than our own star cluster in other reigions. (neigboring regoins/sectors or far away ones)
The chances that there's life out there is, i think, very high.
Earth, no our Sun, forget that our Star/Solar system is really a molecular spec in space of atomic scale, compared to whats out there. We're of particle measure. Seriously.
And we're the only teency structure, that we are, with life on it, in a cosmos of eternal measure, full of unimaginable things? Keep dreaming.
Life outside this tiny wet rock exists. It's only logical to believe so.
what was the probability of something we would classify as life appearing on Earth? (The answer is 1 [100%], but ya, I mean less statistically, more philosophically).
Like, life on Earth wasn't just a guarantee. For instance, the moon we have. While many other planets have moons, very few, if any that we have observed so far, have a moon with the same mass (relatively) as ours.
Our moon clearly played a role in the geological development of the Earth, and thus very likely in the development of a world suitable for what we know as life. Since you seem to be so sure of your position, why not tell me the probability of a binary planet system like the earth/moon, how relevant that is to life, and the probability of life forming once the binary system is established. Clearly you don't know the answer, because there is no answer. Since we have seen no other life in the universe, we don't know how relevant the specific events in Earth's history are to the production of life.
You talk about the size of the universe. However, there are an infinite number of possibly necessary stages which the Earth underwent that made it suitable for life. For each time you try to play smart by going up to an increasingly large level of analysis (groups of galaxies are called galaxy clusters or strings), there is potentially millions of variables that could add, literally, an infinite amount of probability against life existing elsewhere in the universe. Since it is not impossible that the events that occurred to produce life on earth may have only occurred on earth, and that only following that exact sequence of events will life form, you cannot say with absolute certainty that life exists elsewhere in the universe. It is illogical to conclude that.
Having said that, I don't think we are alone. I think it is more likely than not that there is life out there, but until we know exactly what conditions are necessary for life, we cannot have any clue as to how much life, if any, is out there.
I believe, because the universe is so big, with tons of galaxies; that aliens do exist. No I do not think they are the kinds that we see on TV bend on taking over Earth, but some type of alien is out there. Heck, if I remember right; they said that they discovered water on the planet Mars, so there you go.
Originally posted by inimalist
It is illogical to conclude that.Having said that, I don't think we are alone. I think it is more likely than not that there is life out there, but until we know exactly what conditions are necessary for life, we cannot have any clue as to how much life, if any, is out there.
But we do know what the necessary components of life are don't we? I'm not sure myself what they are, but isn't it like carbon and hydrogen, or something like that? I dunno but it's a couple of elements that are are incalculable abundant in our universe, as proven through fact.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
But we do know what the necessary components of life are don't we? I'm not sure myself what they are, but isn't it like carbon and hydrogen, or something like that? I dunno but it's a couple of elements that are are incalculable abundant in our universe, as proven through fact.
actually, no. We have barely scratched the surface in understanding what caused life on earth. While for us it was carbon, and it is likely it would be the element that other life is based on, there is no necessity that carbon is the building block of other life, so for that reason it does not matter if carbon is everywhere. Further, carbon exists in the center of large suns, diamonds, and many other forms where, over millions and billions of years, no life forms, thus just the appearance of carbon is not sufficient for life to exist.
I don't think I'm arguing with you, just stating that we don't know enough to start any realistic speculation about life out there. I'm in your camp, I think it is highly unlikely that something similar to us has formed elsewhere in the universe, but there is no irrefutable logic that says there must be.