Originally posted by dadudemon
I think it is rather absurd that humans (hold your breath, inimalist, I'm going there) can be so egotistical to think that life as we know it cannot form anywhere else but here.
Actually, I would agree with your statement. It is essentially the opposite to what I have been arguing against, but it is in general the same idea. We cannot say anything with any certainty about alien life, so an absolute statement of their existence, whether positive or negative, is nothing more than speculation.
Also, "aliens can't exist" is a negative statement, and thus, can necer be shown. Much like God, even if aliens are never found scientifically, one must always be open to the possibility that they will be.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Life, even if bacteria, should be found on any planet that is within a habitable range of our own planet. I don't expect to find intelligent life, but I expect life to be on other planets.
I think I've said this before, but ya, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't something out there that we could construe as "life". I'm sure you aren't using the literal term, but I do doubt very much that we would find "bacteria", simply because "bacteria" is a type of single cell organism that evolved on Earth in response to unique Earth history etc. I figure you were using the term to mean single cell organism that can live in a wide array of environments, but ya, I'll split hairs.
Originally posted by High Priest
Evidence is all around you when you are in space . 😕
when was the last time you were in space
(and for the record, the fact that space is large does not make aliens more likely to exist. That is a very VERY common and incorrect mistake when looking at statistics. For instance, when you flip a coin 10 times, it doesn't ALWAYS come up with 5 heads 5 tails)
I think I've said this before, but ya, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't something out there that we could construe as "life". I'm sure you aren't using the literal term, but I do doubt very much that we would find "bacteria", simply because "bacteria" is a type of single cell organism that evolved on Earth in response to unique Earth history etc. I figure you were using the term to mean single cell organism that can live in a wide array of environments, but ya, I'll split hairs. [/B][/QUOTE]
😆 but the big bang theory states that earth was formed by electromagnetic radiaitio .so there must be other life out there .
Originally posted by inimalist
when was the last time you were in space(and for the record, the fact that space is large does not make aliens more likely to exist. That is a very VERY common and incorrect mistake when looking at statistics. For instance, when you flip a coin 10 times, it doesn't ALWAYS come up with 5 heads 5 tails)
Space is like our oceans on earth theres life in space.
Originally posted by High Priest
😆 but the big bang theory states that earth was formed by electromagnetic radiaitio .so there must be other life out there .
a) That is not what the theory of the big bang states
b) even if it was, similar origins does not mean life has to exist
choose which one you want to go over first
Originally posted by High Priest
Space is like our oceans on earth theres life in space.
I don't see how you could compare space to an ocean... especially in the context of life forming.
Why not make some real points rather then "there has to be" rhetoric
Originally posted by inimalist
a) That is not what the theory of the big bang statesb) even if it was, similar origins does not mean life has to exist
choose which one you want to go over first
I don't see how you could compare space to an ocean... especially in the context of life forming.
Why not make some real points rather then "there has to be" rhetoric
lol ok give us humans a other 100 years are so and i can bet you we will find something .time fears humans !!!.
Originally posted by High Priest
Ok we go fo A).lol
ok
well, the big bang is a theory that describes how the moments immediately following an event that began the universe occurred. In it's most basic form, it contends that there is a strong and physical difference between whatever existed pre-big bang and post big bang. At this point, the best evidence supports the idea that at one point the universe had a mass of 0, indicating there was likely a time when time didn't exist, and then an even that created time occurred.
After say, 20 seconds, the theory of the big bang describes very little of the observable universe, minus maybe, MAYBE, some of the rate of expansion of the universe, but because of dark energy, this is not necessarily the case.
Theories of planetary formation are much different. There are many ways planets could have formed, for earth it is likely that after our sun formed, and thus released a large amount of debris, large chunks of that debris orbited the sun. The largest of these pieces attracted the smaller pieces in their orbital pathway and became planets.
Originally posted by High Priest
lol ok give us humans a other 100 years are so and i can bet you we will find something .time fears humans !!!.
Yes, I bet in 100 years we will find something
however, I don't think that something will be intelligent life, or even single cellular life.
However, nobody is asking for your opinion any longer. Why not back it up with something other than "Oh, this will happen"
Originally posted by inimalist
okwell, the big bang is a theory that describes how the moments immediately following an event that began the universe occurred. In it's most basic form, it contends that there is a strong and physical difference between whatever existed pre-big bang and post big bang. At this point, the best evidence supports the idea that at one point the universe had a mass of 0, indicating there was likely a time when time didn't exist, and then an even that created time occurred.
After say, 20 seconds, the theory of the big bang describes very little of the observable universe, minus maybe, MAYBE, some of the rate of expansion of the universe, but because of dark energy, this is not necessarily the case.
Theories of planetary formation are much different. There are many ways planets could have formed, for earth it is likely that after our sun formed, and thus released a large amount of debris, large chunks of that debris orbited the sun. The largest of these pieces attracted the smaller pieces in their orbital pathway and became planets.
Yes, I bet in 100 years we will find something
however, I don't think that something will be intelligent life, or even single cellular life.
However, nobody is asking for your opinion any longer. Why not back it up with something other than "Oh, this will happen"
lol there nothing wrong with what i say. the pen is mighter than the sword . but my motto is time fears humans .
Originally posted by inimalist
I think I've said this before, but ya, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't something out there that we could construe as "life". I'm sure you aren't using the literal term, but I do doubt very much that we would find "bacteria", simply because "bacteria" is a type of single cell organism that evolved on Earth in response to unique Earth history etc. I figure you were using the term to mean single cell organism that can live in a wide array of environments, but ya, I'll split hairs.
No, I actually meant bacteria. I used the wrong word. I should have said "single cell organism". I was thinking of single cell organisms like what we know as "viruses", microscopic molds, fungi, bacteria, and microscopic algae. I used the word bacteria to sum up all of that. I guess I could have typed all of that other stuff out to be more correct.
Good Point?
What if when contemplating the origin of life, you find that humans are individuals from Heaven so-to-speak and that the origin of life is like a passageway into a real other physical realm of thought. I am Roman Catholic but believe life is an illusion as in dreams. So much for racism- I guess animals are like beings that mirror pieces of God.
You cannot expect a civilized civilization sexually/hormonally if people know how to create life from nonliving, which brings one to the topic of creating nonliving foodstuff.
Re: Good Point?
Originally posted by VioletEyesPop08
What if when contemplating the origin of life, you find that humans are individuals from Heaven so-to-speak and that the origin of life is like a passageway into a real other physical realm of thought. I am Roman Catholic but believe life is an illusion as in dreams. So much for racism- I guess animals are like beings that mirror pieces of God.You cannot expect a civilized civilization sexually/hormonally if people know how to create life from nonliving, which brings one to the topic of creating nonliving foodstuff.
This is proof that aliens exist. 😆 😛
Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I actually meant bacteria. I used the wrong word. I should have said "single cell organism". I was thinking of single cell organisms like what we know as "viruses", microscopic molds, fungi, bacteria, and microscopic algae. I used the word bacteria to sum up all of that. I guess I could have typed all of that other stuff out to be more correct.
fair enough
my only comment would be that it seems very useful for things to develop a cellular wall to protect replicating molecules (like DNA) or whatever mechanisms this "life" has. However, we can't say for sure that it is necessary, and maybe under different conditions, life creates something else
Originally posted by inimalistAgreed. But as long as we're talking about alien life, why not consider the possibility that there are alternatives to DNA?
fair enoughmy only comment would be that it [b]seems
very useful for things to develop a cellular wall to protect replicating molecules (like DNA) or whatever mechanisms this "life" has. However, we can't say for sure that it is necessary, and maybe under different conditions, life creates something else [/B]