What if Aliens exist?

Originally posted by inimalist
dimension is not the term you are looking for

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension

It is actually more vain to believe that other planets must produce things that are like "us", because that is just what happens, as if we are some necessary end position.

The same can be said about the temporal dimension, it is vain to assume that the time we live in is so important that other life must also live in it.

Touche'! Excellent point.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nice for a change. w00t

lol. I like the alien stuff. Its a really easy way to show statistical concepts that are otherwise really abstract.

Originally posted by VioletEyesPop08
What does this have to do with the topic?? Why don't you explain? If you mean me, that would be severe member bashing. Blame my schools for not giving me any references, not me. I don't think we should sit here and revise our posts for a week.

It is really evident that I am not the only member who has a difficult time reading your posts. They consist of, for the lack of a better term, word salad. Whether that is the fault of you or your education system, is of no matter to me.

I'd love for you to participate in the discussion, but really, I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Touche'! Excellent point.

lol

its not even that any position is more arrogant than the other, just that there are very many valid perspectives on this one.

Originally posted by inimalist
lol. I like the alien stuff. Its a really easy way to show statistical concepts that are otherwise really abstract.

It is really evident that I am not the only member who has a difficult time reading your posts. They consist of, for the lack of a better term, word salad. Whether that is the fault of you or your education system, is of no matter to me.

I'd love for you to participate in the discussion, but really, I have no idea what you are trying to say.

lol

its not even that any position is more arrogant than the other, just that there are very many valid perspectives on this one.

[QUOTE=10329833]Originally posted by inimalist
[B]Drake's equation talks about the probability of life existing at the same time as us, it says nothing of the location, meaning, your point is moot.

and dragons could be hiding on the highest peaks of earth.

Whoa what does that mean 😉

If aliens exist, there are three scenarios that could happen, both of which pose a threat to us of absolutely zero:

1. The aliens are not capable of space travel and are trapped on their own planet(s), so they can't get to/harm us.

2. The aliens are capable of space travel but are happy with their planet(s) and do not care about us.

3. The aliens are capable of space travel and are unhappy with their planet(s) and want to relocate. However, with such advanced technology, they will be able to find other, unspoiled, unpolluted planets to relocate to and will leave our polluted, dying planet alone.

We're pretty much safe.

I wonder if they are from a common ancestor-

Originally posted by caedusrulesall
If aliens exist, there are three scenarios that could happen, both of which pose a threat to us of absolutely zero:

1. The aliens are not capable of space travel and are trapped on their own planet(s), so they can't get to/harm us.

2. The aliens are capable of space travel but are happy with their planet(s) and do not care about us.

3. The aliens are capable of space travel and are unhappy with their planet(s) and want to relocate. However, with such advanced technology, they will be able to find other, unspoiled, unpolluted planets to relocate to and will leave our polluted, dying planet alone.

We're pretty much safe.

Aliens could already be among us & are just evaluating our society. Who knows for sure but the likelihood of them existing is very high. The observable universe or from what we know is very large. Due to it's extremely large size the universe is bound to hold other life other than ours.

Originally posted by VioletEyesPop08
I wonder if they are from a common ancestor-

That has been thought of already in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

😉

Back on track...

I think it is rather absurd that humans (hold your breath, inimalist, I'm going there) can be so egotistical to think that life as we know it cannot form anywhere else but here. Life, even if bacteria, should be found on any planet that is within a habitable range of our own planet. I don't expect to find intelligent life, but I expect life to be on other planets.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That has been thought of already in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

😉

Back on track...

I think it is rather absurd that humans (hold your breath, inimalist, I'm going there) can be so egotistical to think that life as we know it cannot form anywhere else but here. Life, even if bacteria, should be found on any planet that is within a habitable range of our own planet. I don't expect to find intelligent life, but I expect life to be on other planets.

So, basically, the idea is that, if you did not realize, as some don't, unfortunately:

1- All "life" (from a so-labelled "aetheist" view) started from a single point.
2- Life is rather, as the/an opposite, like a chemical that started in different points.
3- "Life" in a so-called "neo-aetheist" view is a state of being philosophically and people have to discover its meaning to predict if aliens exist.

Something like that is an interesting thing to toss or point for more interesting discussion, unless your bedroom is strewn with choice sci-fi mags, of course. I could not decide: I don't get young adult or nuttin'

I must admit, I am Catholic and went to a Catholic college, but I believe life is a dream, our thoughts and what we are aware happens to us. We can make our past a reality.

Oh- this is the philoosphy sector of KMC. jerry

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't expect to find intelligent life, but I expect life to be on other planets.

Originally posted by VioletEyesPop08
Well, no, it does not look like they went into it completely. spam_laser

There was a whole episode about it....what do you mean that didn't go into it completely?

Sure, they didn't detail planet by planet how they seeded life....but they did the episode.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I personally don't expect to find life of any shape or size anywhere, including bacteria. But I'm sure there's forms of bacteria somewhere out there.

You're a Mormon....you should think that there is cascades of life on other planets. Mormon's believe that Jesus Christ died for more than just Earthlings sins...we believe he died for all of Gods spirit children on and off this planet.

[/sundayschool]

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're a Mormon....you should think that there is cascades of life on other planets. Mormon's believe that Jesus Christ died for more than just Earthlings sins...we believe he died for all of Gods spirit children on and off this planet.

I was actually estimating what I thought humans here would be likely to find elsewhere.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Yes that is what I believe. I'll be sure to confess next time I get the chance! 😂

I was actually estimating what I thought humans here would be likely to find elsewhere.

I thought so.

Now call your EQP (Or Bishop if you are still a priest) and let him know your sins.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought so.

Now call your EQP (Or Bishop if you are still a priest) and let him know your sins.

Originally posted by Quark_666
"and I need you to tell a certain bishop in Oklahoma too..."

"...that there is another in OKC who curses up a storm and makes loads of perverted jokes on the same place..."

Even so, Amen.

Originally posted by dadudemon
"...that there is another in OKC who curses up a storm and makes loads of perverted jokes on the same place..."

Even so, Amen.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Oh, now that you've said it, I suppose there couldn't possibly be any other possibilities eh?

I'm just stating my opinion. But think about it. Why would aliens come to our polluted, dying planet when they have a ready choice of fresh ones to go to instead?

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're a Mormon....you should think that there is cascades of life on other planets. Mormon's believe that Jesus Christ died for more than just Earthlings sins...we believe he died for all of Gods spirit children on and off this planet.

I always thought that the term to describe a person from Earth was supposed to be Earthean, and Earthling was just a term used in sci-fi movies and invasion books and comics and so on.

However, this raises the question: if there is life on other planets, are they still God's children? Since the Bible states that He created life on Earth, while not giving mention of the possibility of God having created life on other planets.

I also believe that if there is sentient life on other planets, in all likelihood they are not the monsters portrayed in so many ideas of life on other planets, but rather humanoid species. Who is to say that they are not human or near-human? Why is it that just because they are from other planets they must be so different from us?

Finally, there must be life in other planets for simple reasons. We only know much about our star system, and in our star system, Earth is the only planet with the correct conditions (e.g. proximity to the sun, available water, etc.) to sustain life. The Galaxy as we know it is made up of hundreds of about 200 billion (possibly up to 400 billion) stars, and there are even more galaxies, each of which have almost as many stars. In those billions of star systems, there must be at least a single other planet with the correct conditions to sustain sentient or even non-sentient life, since there is really nothing special about our star system compared to all the other star systems in the galaxy and the universe other than it contains the only planet that WE know to sustain life. There must be other systems like us.

why are we bringing in religion when the naked eye can see other planets out there .God dosent say that humans caint enter space.

Originally posted by High Priest
why are we bringing in religion when the naked eye can see other planets out there .God dosent say that humans caint enter space.

The debate is about if there is life on those planets, not if there are other planets, which we know there are. And if God didn't want us to enter space, we couldn't have been able to when we actually did.