Anakin turns to the darkside for NO REASON!

I dont understand why Vader would remain loyal to the emperor after he finds out that Padme is dead... it defeats the whole purpose of why he changed..

I dont understand this Logic:
Emperor "turn to the dark side and you will have the power to save your wife"
Anakin -"Ok cool"

Anakin becomes Darth Vader - "where padme?"
Emperor- "oh shes dead, you killed her accidentally"
Anakin -"Shit, **** me! Oh well, lets go build a death star" The end

Should Darth be pissed at the emperor becuase he got screwed in the deal...

In addition, the emperor lies to darth about the cuase of her death, saying that she died when he choked her. If thats the case, then she would have died without giving birth to the luke and leia.

So then in "Empire Strikes Back" when Darth recognizes that he has a son.. Shouldn't he be ticked off at the Emperor for lying?

It seems like the Emperor keeps screwing over Anakin/Darth and obviously lying to him, and Vador doesn't get annoyed or bothered by it until the very end of return of the Jedi... like helllooooo you're getting played!
Does this make sense to anyone?

Remaining loyal for no reason and turning for no reason are different things.

You think he's not ticked at the Emperor? Why do you think he even bothers trying to turn his son, so they can make a Sith garden and pick little black pansies? 😛

The Emperor could quite literally kill him if he tried to overtake him in the Vader suit. At that point, no Dark-Sider had ever been redeemed, let alone a Sith Lord. Therefore, no point in trying to redeem himself, and I'm sure he was quite comfortable ruling the Galaxy...

ok then, so why does he remain loyal for no reason

Editted my post, should explain.

It is often been belived that due to his life support suit Anakin cant challenge the Emperor due to lightning.

It's true that Vader is being played and probably should be more pissed at palpy then he shows, but give him some credit. He is also playing the emperor in the OT also. There are several indications throughout that show that Vader would happily kill palps and replace him with an apprentice of his own (Luke)

Vanquish supported what I said. 🙂

He is pissed, but he's not really in a state to go "Hey you #%@@#$!$@%^&^#$#$%$#%#$! You ****ed me over! I'm screwed! I'm gonna kill you!" because now he's slow and mechanical, and the Emperor would probably not need to whip out the lightsaber in order to remove him as a threat.

Fair Points guys... but isnt it wierd because in Return of the Jedi, Vador just tosses him like a ragdoll over the ledge without a problem?

so why doesn't Vader just kill Palpy in his sleep?

ok this could go in for ages. I think the answer is quite simply. The Jedi are gone, Padme is dead..... who else does Vader have except the man who was more or less is father figure?

When Vader thinks he killed his own wife was not a lie to Anakin, the emperor and Vader both think they died. Not untill EP5 they find out about luke and leia. Remember, the Padme funeral, she still looks preganant as she lies in her coffin. It was a secret only, Obiwan, Organa, Yoda, R2, Owen and Peru knew

My opinion is that Vader was gonna kill Palpatine after he killed Obi Won but instead Vader lost and Palpatine came and saved his life so Vader decided not to kill Palpatine, since Palpatine carred about him and Padme was dead, Vader had no where else to go.

Slap Batman's theory with mine and I think we have a winner.

However, Robin, the country of Peru did not know of this secret. 😉

Plus, the lightning DID kill Vader when he hefted Palpatine over the ledge. He knew he was done for, why not end it in the best way that would make him the good guy after all?

Originally posted by Captain REX
Slap Batman's theory with mine and I think we have a winner.

However, Robin, the country of Peru did not know of this secret. 😉

Plus, the lightning DID kill Vader when he hefted Palpatine over the ledge. He knew he was done for, why not end it in the best way that would make him the good guy after all?

Lol, Peru = Beru

Originally posted by Captain REX
Slap Batman's theory with mine and I think we have a winner.
Plus, the lightning DID kill Vader when he hefted Palpatine over the ledge. He knew he was done for, why not end it in the best way that would make him the good guy after all?

true... thanks for clearing that up...

My theory, after the jedi temple and turning against obi-wan, he himself probably realized there was no point in turning back, that is if he still was'nt completly blinded by hatred. Noone wants to think that they're evil. Even palpatine likes to pretend like he has just cause. Vader probably shifted the responsibility from himself for the death Padme to all other remaining jedi.

Oh, but Palpatine DOES have a just cause. Who needs democracy and heroic Jedi anyway? 😛

pademe died of a broken heart . in the movie she says that and when the robot is checking her for illness he says she's healthy she doesnt have the will to live. and anakin joined the dark side to save pademe and also cause the jedi didnt trust him anymore. and also the lies lol. i hope that helps if it doesnt im srry

I think Anakin realized that since he had nothing left, he might as well rule with his master and keep training. Maybe he believed that if one day he grew powerful enough he could leave the suit.

I think it made sense why he turned, and why he stayed. There was nothing left for him but being the Emperor's enforcer. And besides, it was a better job than a Jedi

He turned to the dark side cuz he thinks Padme betrayed him by bringign obi along