Anakin turns to the darkside for NO REASON!

Originally posted by Stacks
I dont understand why Vader would remain loyal to the emperor after he finds out that Padme is dead... it defeats the whole purpose of why he changed..

I dont understand this Logic:
Emperor "turn to the dark side and you will have the power to save your wife"
Anakin -"Ok cool"

Anakin becomes Darth Vader - "where padme?"
Emperor- "oh shes dead, you killed her accidentally"
Anakin -"Shit, **** me! Oh well, lets go build a death star" The end

Should Darth be pissed at the emperor becuase he got screwed in the deal...

In addition, the emperor lies to darth about the cuase of her death, saying that she died when he choked her. If thats the case, then she would have died without giving birth to the luke and leia.

So then in "Empire Strikes Back" when Darth recognizes that he has a son.. Shouldn't he be ticked off at the Emperor for lying?

It seems like the Emperor keeps screwing over Anakin/Darth and obviously lying to him, and Vador doesn't get annoyed or bothered by it until the very end of return of the Jedi... like helllooooo you're getting played!
Does this make sense to anyone?

the Emperor didn't kill Padme, Ani did. Ani violated the deal. The Emperor saved Ani's life. And convinced him the Jedi were trying to take over the Republic. Thats why he turned, and he stayed because he STILL thought that view was right.

....and its not like he had anywhere else to go at that point.

first of all, padme wouldnt have died if anikan hadnt turned to the darkside becuase she died of a broken heart and didnt really like anikan anymore. i think that maybe anikan thought if he remained under control, then he'd find a way to bring her back to life. and when palpatine was about to kill luke, he had no choice but to kill palpatine.

or...

he remained under palpatine's control not of his free will anymore and something helped himt o break free.

that's the horrible dramatic irony, and its why Ani is a tragic hero, the quest to save what he loves, turns him into the very thing he hates.

But he ultimately kicks Palps butt so its all good.

okay, lets do a little math. nightmares of his mother in tourture + she dies + palpatine leans him over to the darkside + all the distrust and lies to him + the visions of padme dying + palpatine telling him he can save her by going to the darkside + thinking that even padme is against him + fighting his best friend + getting horribly wounded BY his friend + his friend abandoning him + all the jedi dying + all the remaining jedi against him + palpatine saving him + padme dying = totaly going to the darkside :/

yaaah.....i mean daymm.....ani got screwed, i'd pissed as well 😛

''I dont understand why Vader would remain loyal to the emperor after he finds out that Padme is dead... it defeats the whole purpose of why he changed..''

on the empire strikes back dvd george says darth wants to over throw the emperour using luke, so he probably is pissed off with him
also darths a cripple so he cant do much about the empor

Originally posted by Stacks
I dont understand why Vader would remain loyal to the emperor after he finds out that Padme is dead... it defeats the whole purpose of why he changed..

I dont understand this Logic:
Emperor "turn to the dark side and you will have the power to save your wife"
Anakin -"Ok cool"

Anakin becomes Darth Vader - "where padme?"
Emperor- "oh shes dead, you killed her accidentally"
Anakin -"Shit, **** me! Oh well, lets go build a death star" The end

Should Darth be pissed at the emperor becuase he got screwed in the deal...

In addition, the emperor lies to darth about the cuase of her death, saying that she died when he choked her. If thats the case, then she would have died without giving birth to the luke and leia.

So then in "Empire Strikes Back" when Darth recognizes that he has a son.. Shouldn't he be ticked off at the Emperor for lying?

It seems like the Emperor keeps screwing over Anakin/Darth and obviously lying to him, and Vador doesn't get annoyed or bothered by it until the very end of return of the Jedi... like helllooooo you're getting played!
Does this make sense to anyone?

well considering he is weak and in a life support machine for the rest of his life that he just lost (killed) the love of his life and mother to his children and thinks they are dead. There is no jedi order left there is nothing. in way he is trapped in that life forever there is nothing left of him.

He has nothing left untill Luke comes along he tries to turn luke to the dark side but luke resists when he sees lukes dying this gives him something tof giht when he first became a jedi he fought to save his mum

Anakin was so far down the path of the Dark Side that there was really no turning back...

The Dark Side is very hard to overcome ✅

if anakin would have listened to yoda at the beginning of the movie none of that would happen

Still something bothers me.
In empire stikes back, Vader asks Luke to join him and to destroy the emperor together to rule at his place. However in Return of the Jedi, when Luke strikes the Emperor, Vader blocks his strike.
It relates to what we've talked about. Surely, Vader wanted the emperor dead. Why did he block him. Even if his son didn't join him to the dark side at the end, he would still be satisfied by the death of the emperor.

he knew luke wasnt painfull enough then, thats why he realised this and thats why luke was defeated by palp it was vader that defeated him by catching him off guard.

powerful not painfull lol sorry typo.

No, because Luke could have killed his father. If Vador let Luke kill the emperor, who would protect vador from luke? lol...such a plot man...gotta love it

Watch, read and then make that statement...There is a reason for everything...

I AGREE! ANAKIN DOES TRUN TO THE DARK SIDE FOR NO REASON!
What does he think that killing everyone will somehow end the war. Makes no sense, AND ANOTHER THING: He claims that he's soooo POWERFUL And is the greatest Jedi (Or sith for that matter). Man is he lost, WOW Anakin you killed a bunch of helpless children, took out MAster Windu when he was preoccupied with Palpatine and then he slughters all the UNARMED seperatists who were caught by surprise. HE sucks! Obi wan beats the ^&^*%&%* out of him in there duel. LOL and he says he's the most powerful Jedi ever! tHINK ABOUT IT!?

technically yes obi-wan did beat anakin but it wasn't because he had better skills than him but because anakin felt that he was invincible and tried to regain the high ground when he knew it was close to impossible.

Mandos, I never understood that either. In fact I started a thread for it in The Episodes IV-VI section of this message board... if anyone truley understands this please answer it there...

Put it this way....

Your a slow machine man, you have destroyed many lives and ruined others, the galazy lives under your oppression and everyone in it hates you.

You kill your master and go to live out the rest of your days on some planet.

How good do you think your social prospects are? Not only would you be hated wherever you went, you also wouldnt blend in anywhere....you know, being a huge black metal man.