Muhammad Ali or Bruce Lee?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
as I said, I pm'd him before, you were NOT the reason I pm'd him, therefore you were not the subject at hand. Your name came up in passing. Any fool can see the difference there.

Oh, wait.

Do I need to spell it out for you? Do you need a pop up book?

Dude, spin any which way you like, you told a lie, he then sold you out, though I doubt it was intentional on Dadudemon's part and this isn't the first time one of your lies was exposed. It's cool, I'm not upset, no matter what was discussed about me.

Anyhow, those leg sweeps you mentioned, with them being the tide turner since Ali couldn't do a thing against them. They are not as effective in a fight as the movies would have you believe.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Bruce wouldn't be able to "Hold the line". 😛

"I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." -Ali

Tis true, if we're to believe Lee could catch flying pieces of rice with chopsticks in mid air, then that certainly is possible.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's what I tried to tell him; he's trying to pit us against each other. I had "others" in mind when I "told" Robby what I did...so it doesn't matter. I already said it was advice from you to me...he will keep on trolling because that is what gets his internet rocks off.

edit-I just checked my PM's...it wasn't even a direct reference to you, Robtard...you were grouped by the term "they"....hence this:

"I don't remember him singling you out."

However, I did misread RJ's post the first time around and took it for him disclosing the contents of your PM's...I do not like naming names, and for the most part, disclosing contents of PMs with names...they are PMs for a reason.

Yeah, I'm the one trolling. Yet I am the one who's tried to bring it back to Ali Vs Lee in each post, for the last 6 posts. He lied; you like a retard sold him out, though unintentionally I assume.I don't care what was or wasn't said about me, you both are free to PM and discuss me or anything you like. It's cool, so let it go.

How many hits do you think Lee could take from Ali before he went down or was severely handicapped?

One.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, spin any which way you like, you told a lie, he then sold you out, though I doubt it was intentional on Dadudemon's part and this isn't the first time one of your lies was exposed. It's cool, I'm not upset, no matter what was discussed about me.

Anyhow, those leg sweeps you mentioned, with them being the tide turner since Ali couldn't do a thing against them. They are not as effective in a fight as the movies would have you believe.

Tell me another time I "lied".....go ahead, tell me 2 or three times.

and if the martial artist is trained well enough, a well executed leg sweep, as well as kicks at the knees and thighs can be as effective as a good body shot.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
One.

Most probably. Especially either his Left hook over Lees shoulder, or a nice juicy right cross. He probably would have to open his account by coming in with a jab or two to get Lee's attention focused on the battering feeling in his face setting him up for the significant damager/finisher in this case.

He might feign a quick movement on the way in, (Effective- with Lee being already weary about what could be coming his way) and opening with the shot right off the bat. Lee wouldn't know 'til it was on him, anyhow.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, I'm the one trolling.

Of course you are. If you take a few minutes to read through various threads where Mr. Mon is participating in any sort of discussion, you'll see that he is systematically and invariably targeted for trolling by no less than 90% of the people on this board. And the 10% that aren't trolling him, he just hasn't gotten around to accusing yet. It's interesting that the problems he encounter always lie with the "other guy". It's amazing that on an internet forum with a registered membership well into the thousands, there's aparently only a single member who isn't guilty of trolling.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

...if the martial artist is trained well enough, a well executed leg sweep, as well as kicks at the knees and thighs can be as effective as a good body shot.

Be that as it may, taking that shot will leave him in a compromised position where even if he lands he'll just get battered immediately.

Besides, didn't see Ali taking damage ever from Body shots. His doctors called him a freak or marvel on account of the conditioning his trunk area was in. That also speaks for his durability as a whole.

And remember my post about the 'Ken Norton/Broken jaw' happening earlier...? Is a sweep to the leg gonna bother this guy...? Nope.

And if the purpose of the sweep is to destabilise Ali, then good luck with that. Next time you are out with a buddy who is Lee's size -What, nine and a half stone..? -(Sorry if his peak-days-weight was something else and Im wrong on that, but the esscence remains the same.) have him try to leg sweep the first 15-16 stone doorman you see at a club- and watch what happens.

It'll be a short, awkward perhaps stunned and silent period for all parties measured in seconds, followed by one of the most one sided and unfair batterings seen since the lord Jesus Vs the crucifixion nailer.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

and if the martial artist is trained well enough, a well executed leg sweep, as well as kicks at the knees and thighs can be as effective as a good body shot.

I'm going to assume that you'd agree that today's top MMA guys are some the the best trained fighters in the world. Yet you barely (never) see "leg sweeps". The reason, because they really only work on camera, unless you're facing an amature fighter. Against a skilled opponent (such as Ali), you risk getting beat or stomped on.

Originally posted by Devil King
Of course you are. If you take a few minutes to read through various threads where Mr. Mon is participating in any sort of discussion, you'll see that he is systematically and invariably targeted for trolling by no less than 90% of the people on this board. And the 10% that aren't trolling him, he just hasn't gotten around to accusing yet. It's interesting that the problems he encounter always lie with the "other guy". It's amazing that on an internet forum with a registered membership well into the thousands, there's aparently only a single member who isn't guilty of trolling.

"One in a million", baby!

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm going to assume that you'd agree that today's top MMA guys are some the the best trained fighters in the world. Yet you barely (never) see "leg sweeps". The reason, because they really only work on camera, unless you're facing an amature fighter. Against a skilled opponent (such as Ali), you risk getting beat or stomped on.

Also, I might have missed it, but this IS a fight to the death, yes? Kicking and biting is OK?

All fights on KMC are to the death.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Be that as it may, taking that shot will leave him in a compromised position where even if he lands he'll just get battered immediately.

Then again, Ali could see the kick coming and throw an overhand right.

DAMN this would be a helluva fight.

Originally posted by Devil King
All fights on KMC are to the death.

This is prolly a dumb question, but Ali was obviously used to fighting with gloves. In this fight to the death, I am assuming he will be bare knuckled. Is this gonna affect his fighting? I am not a boxing expert, I dunno about this.

Don't ask me. I don't know anything about either of them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You think those thugs are as well trained as Bruce Lee was?

Also, I might have missed it, but this IS a fight to the death, yes? Kicking and biting is OK?

Most of those "thugs" as you put it, would destroy Lee. They're highly trained in various fight styles and many have the records/wins to prove it. They are some of the best fighters in the world... have you never watched UFC or any of the Japanese circuits? The awesome shit you see Lee do in movies, well, is just movies, you have to move past that.

I don't know, I guess. If so, that only gives the advantage to Ali, as most people here have assumed he'd only be punching, which is all he would need to send a 135 guy into the stratosphere.

I was just thinking that if Ali is trained to hit with gloves, which offer some sort of protection against hand injury, would he more prone to in jury than Bruce Lee would?

We need Chill here, he has some boxing knowledge.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes they are.

This is prolly a dumb question, but Ali was obviously used to fighting with gloves. In this fight to the death, I am assuming he will be bare knuckled. Is this gonna affect his fighting? I am not a boxing expert, I dunno about this.

Bare knuckles would make Ali many times more lethal.

Originally posted by Devil King
Don't ask me. I don't know anything about either of them.

Sure you do, you at least know one is yellow and the other is black (though more of a mid-brown); that's something.

Are there real fights of Bruce Lee one can go by to measure?