Muhammad Ali or Bruce Lee?

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, I'm the one trolling. Yet I am the one who's tried to bring it back to Ali Vs Lee in each post, for the last 6 posts.

I've tried as well.

Originally posted by Robtard
He lied; you like a retard sold him out, though unintentionally I assume.

You are correct. I misread his post...I mistook it for him saying that we had words about YOU...I misread sometimes, often.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't care what was or wasn't said about me, you both are free to PM and discuss me or anything you like. It's cool, so let it go.

Good. So we're "cool" again? No more personal attacks for a day or two? 😆

Originally posted by Robtard
How many hits do you think Lee could take from Ali before he went down or was severely handicapped?

Since just about every person on the face of the planet would go down with one good hit, one. Ali can go down with one good hit.

In a real fight, with Ali Boxing and Lee using JKD, Lee could probably take several hits because most of them wouldn't be direct hits.

Originally posted by Devil King
Of course you are. If you take a few minutes to read through various threads where Mr. Mon is participating in any sort of discussion, you'll see that he is systematically and invariably targeted for trolling by no less than 90% of the people on this board. And the 10% that aren't trolling him, he just hasn't gotten around to accusing yet. It's interesting that the problems he encounter always lie with the "other guy". It's amazing that on an internet forum with a registered membership well into the thousands, there's aparently only a single member who isn't guilty of trolling.

Riiight, that's exactly what I do. You're such a whiny b*tch. 😆

There are about Four...read that again...Four people who I have accused of trolling. (Other than out and out trolls, like Judge, Whirley, etc.) Since you think the world of yourself, you assume that you are 90 percent of KMC...meanwhile, I get along just fine with EVERYONE else...but I get PMs from other members about those four people...hmm Seems kind of odd, doesn't it?

Also, I have admitted several times that what I sometimes do is trolling. Deal with it in your make believe world.

Stop following me around in threads when I am on your ignore and commenting about me...that's rather lame. I am on your ignore for a reason...stop trolling.

What about Lee dodging a thrown fist (dodging backwards) and Lee simultaneously doing a "forward kick" right into Ali's knee...causing an ACL tear and other things? Ali has DEFINITELY shown resilience to that, right?

There are literally hundreds of things Ali CANNOT defend against unless he took special martial arts training.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
We started talking, one thing led to another, his name came up in passing. That doesnt make him the "topic."

It pretty much does.

Originally posted by dadudemon

There are about Four...read that again...Four people who I have accused of trolling. (Other than out and out trolls, like Judge, Whirley, etc.)

Who and who?

It would be at whatever range Ali'd want it to be with linear and lateral movement and not letting Lee do anything once within strike range.

And the chances of him pulling that off on Ali without getting battered are real minimal.

And like I said, Ali doesnt have to worry about hundreds of things from Lee, just the one thing that he'll have time to do before Ali closes him down on the counter.

Originally posted by Big Len
Who and who?

STFU. We are done with that topic...or at least I am.

Onward to Bruce Lee and Mohamed Ali.

Originally posted by dadudemon
STFU. We are done with that topic...or at least I am.

Onward to Bruce Lee and Mohamed Ali.

What and Why?

Originally posted by dadudemon

Since just about every person on the face of the planet would go down with one good hit, one. Ali can go down with one good hit.

Big and hard hitting guys.

Who of Lee's opponents do we see him take that level of punishment from, apart from Mr.Han man with the claw in a scripted movie..? 😛

And even if that were to exist as a danger, that would be a tripley likely fate for Lee against Ali. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Land maybe, cripple. Maybe not.

But what is certain is that 8/10 Lee gets caught trying on the way in.
And thats all that'd be mattering as head-on-impact, getting caught moving onto a object moving to go through your ass via your jaw, would be a high percentage of knockout certainty.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
ever consider that Ali had a set of rules to go by in the ring? No low blows? no hits below the belt? this is a fight to the DEATH, mind you, something Ali has never done before, something that martial artists are TRAINED to do, at least ones worth their salt.

Did Bruce Lee ever fight to the death?

Also, wouldn't it be an advantage for Ali, I mean, look, the man owned some of the strongest fighters ever, now he can go all out....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Did Bruce Lee ever fight to the death?

Also, wouldn't it be an advantage for Ali, I mean, look, the man owned some of the strongest fighters ever, now he can go all out....

Originally posted by Big Len
What and Why?

"What...?" is an illogical question to my three statements.

Why: Because can kick you internet ass with my e-fists of fury. I will punches you with such power and quickness, your acne will jump off your face in fright.

More seriously, I am done with the off topic BS.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I can list at least 70 professional Boxers who will tell you that that try as they might they just couldn't get your logic to take effect in tested, pressure/real situations against Ali. Never knocked out.
And his chin was tested by George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Ernie Shavers, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes (in training).

Big and hard hitting guys.

Who of Lee's opponents do we see him take that level of punishment from, apart from Mr.Han man with the claw in a scripted movie..? 😛

And even if that were to exist as a danger, that would be a tripley likely fate for Lee against Ali. 🙂

A "good" punch is not equal for everyone. I have been straight up clocked in the jaw by someone who got a crow hop before swinging...nothing.😐 I had a nice bruise on the side of my face the next day...but not a knock-out. I am sure you have seen someone, personally, get knocked out by much less. I saw a guy on the internet get knocked out by a sturdy slap in the face.

http://www.break.com/index/dude-knocked-out-by-slap.html

I would suspect Ali's jaw, in his prime, the be much sturdier than mine by a mile. However, I would also not list him as not knockout-able. Lee should be more than enough to knock him out. Come-on, he DID do real fights and won by knockout in the first or second round. I heel to the brow should do the trick, do you agree?

Yeah, I agree, he's probably knockoutable.

But that's probably in the same league as Daredevil punching Superman in a way that makes him splinter into a million different pieces.

seems that Ali is a god in your eyes.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
seems that Ali is a god in your eyes.

Two

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, I agree, he's probably knockoutable.

But that's probably in the same league as Daredevil punching Superman in a way that makes him splinter into a million different pieces.

WTF? I've seen several fights where Ali "reels" slightly from a big hit...I know what that's like...right on impact, you get a burst of white fuzziness and then sound slowly returns.

Also, Ali doesn't look like he hit as hard as today's heavy weights...he could dodge and move, dip and grove with the best of them...even today. Ali could move just plain awesome.

Lee's better.

Nah.

Originally posted by dadudemon
WTF? I've seen several fights where Ali "reels" slightly from a big hit...I know what that's like...right on impact, you get a burst of white fuzziness and then sound slowly returns.

Also, Ali doesn't look like he hit as hard as today's heavy weights...he could dodge and move, dip and grove with the best of them...even today. Ali could move just plain awesome.

Lee's better.

I am still of the same opinion I was when I first talked here.

My point is not to say Ali is the best and owns everyone, just that the Lee arguments are pretty shitty.

Originally posted by Bardock42

My point is not to say Ali is the best and owns everyone, just that the Lee arguments are pretty shitty.

The points they're trying to make would be valid, if this were a thread about an actual proven fighter....instead of Lee.

Then again, that is probably where you were going with that anyway.

Originally posted by StyleTime
It's hard to mount a defense for the guy when he has no fights.

The points they're trying to make would be valid, if this were a thread about an actual proven fighter....instead of Lee.

Then again, that is probably where you were going with that anyway.

There's just no substance. Not saying Ali would win. But at least he has proven that he can win.

I know you guys will spin this article your own way and throw it back at me, but anyway:

http://www.fightingmaster.com/masters/brucelee/brucelee.htm