Muhammad Ali or Bruce Lee?

Originally posted by Robtard
Because Bruce was an actor. While he was also a trained martial artist, the hype around him being able to kick anyone's ass comes from his acting/movies.

You don't know much about Bruce Lee, Robtard. Bruce's @sskicking rep came from numerous eyewitness accounts of would-be badasses treating him like Billy the Kid and challenging him to one-on-one battles even inbetween filming on movie sets. Both John Saxon and James Coburn witnessed these impromptu battles in which Bruce did not fight like his movie characters.

Originally posted by Robtard
Back-tracking eh, now it's "modern"?

All of your goal-post moving comments are strawmen.

Originally posted by Robtard
Anyhow, I'd also argue how modern we're talking.

Starting from just before UFC number one, when it was in the news all the time about how 'brutal' and 'inhuman' it was.

Originally posted by Robtard
MMA as it is now in the US started becoming huge/popular when Dana White was hired as President of the UFC and changed it from a freak-show to an actual sport. But this is arguable.

In a recent Bruce Lee documentary, Dana White was one of the people saying on camera how Lee was the Father of MMA.

Bruce Lee doesn't have a verifiable fight record. I don't see why that is being disputed. If you want to believe he was a great fighter, you're welcome to obviously; however, you'll be hardpressed to actually support the claim in any meaningful way.

The same for the "Father of MMA" stuff.

Who wins? A 6 foot 3, 210lbs fighter with an 80 inch reach and a well documented fighting history as one of the greatest boxers of all time, or a 5 foot 7, 135lbs actor/stunt man who's entire ability as a fighter is unverified theoretical hearsay and second hand accounts. Lets talk about it for 150 pages!!!! 😱

There is more conclusive evidence that ghosts are real then that Bruce Lee was an amazing fighter... and ghosts aren't real.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Who wins? A 6 foot 3, 210lbs fighter with an 80 inch reach and a well documented fighting history as one of the greatest boxers of all time, or a 5 foot 7, 135lbs actor/stunt man who's entire ability as a fighter is unverified theoretical hearsay and second hand accounts. Lets talk about it for 150 pages!!!! 😱

lol

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

There is more conclusive evidence that ghosts are real then that Bruce Lee was an amazing fighter... and ghosts aren't real.

That means they are undeniably real.

I am the ghost of Bruce Lee, and I was an amazing fighter.

y'all are all crazy. lol

Originally posted by Mindset
I am the ghost of Bruce Lee, and I was an amazing fighter.

I am Muhammed Ali, and I say let the ghost fight

I don't get paid enough for this shit.

Originally posted by MRasheed
You don't know much about Bruce Lee, Robtard. Bruce's @sskicking rep came from numerous eyewitness accounts of would-be badasses treating him like Billy the Kid and challenging him to one-on-one battles even inbetween filming on movie sets. Both John Saxon and James Coburn witnessed these impromptu battles in which Bruce did not fight like his movie characters.

All of your goal-post moving comments are strawmen.

Starting from just before UFC number one, when it was in the news all the time about how 'brutal' and 'inhuman' it was.

In a recent Bruce Lee documentary, Dana White was one of the people saying on camera how Lee was the Father of MMA.

Says the guy who goes on hearsay accounts and fictional films. The supposed Bruce kicking Bob Wall for real was BS too. Wall said so; he never had a problem with Bruce. You're basing everything you know about Bruce Lee on myths and his films, clown-shoe, dude.

1) You indeed are the goal-post mover. 2) You have no idea what a straw-man argument is.

Well then, that doesn't bode all to well for Bruce Lee being the "father of MMA", UFC started in the early-mid 90's, dude.

LoL, you got that from the Wiki you read on the UFC when this nonsense started. BTW, Dana is a smart business man and dropping the Bruce Lee line is clever marketing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Says the guy who goes on hearsay accounts and fictional films. The supposed Bruce kicking Bob Wall for real was BS too. Wall said so; he never had a problem with Bruce.

Bob Wall admits on camera in the Curse of Bruce Lee documentary that it wasn't BS.

Originally posted by Robtard
1) You indeed are the goal-post mover. 2) You have no idea what a straw-man argument is.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well then, that doesn't bode all to well for Bruce Lee being the "father of MMA", UFC started in the early-mid 90's, dude.

People didn't know who Bruce was in the '90s? His son died in the early '90s and there were one trillion Bruce/Brandon specials to revive the interest.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, you got that from the Wiki you read on the UFC when this nonsense started.

I got it from remembering from the time period. I was in my 20s in the 1990s.

Originally posted by Robtard
BTW, Dana is a smart business man and dropping the Bruce Lee line is clever marketing.

Whatever. There's a 200% chance that everyone who eagerly watched that Lee documentary were already fans of the UFC, including me.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't get paid enough for this shit.

Me neither.

If you want to believe Bruce Lee "fathered MMA", so be it, dude. Don't really care and it's off-topic.

Fine!

Originally posted by Mindset
I am the ghost of Bruce Lee, and I was an amazing fighter.

Muhammad Ali is a world class boxer, light on his feet with killer punches. "flaunts like a butterfly stings like a bee". Mr Lee is a complete fighter. Lee has to much in his arsenal, kicks punches and pressure holds i thing Bruce Lee will win it hands down.

"Floats", you lame add poster.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Floats", you lame add poster.

Yes, like the turd of one who has enough fibre... I am thrashing Ali in the poll as I would in the ring.