Capt America vs Daredevil · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

braz I'm an agent of chaos...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Again. DD is arguably a superior martial artist to Cap.
Cap is an all-around better fighter, only because of his shield AND SSS really.
DD wins 6/10.

wtf..?? no hes not..just look at their bios theres proof everywhere
Captain America's fighting skills-7 out of 7
Daredevils- 5 out of 7🙁

im not saying DD sucks, its just that. Caps like the best h2h combatant in marvel comics, and has proved to do some amazing feats.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by braz
wtf..?? no hes not..just look at their bios theres proof everywhere
Captain America's fighting skills-7 out of 7
Daredevils- 5 out of 7🙁
im not saying DD sucks, its just that. Caps like the best h2h combatant in marvel comics, and has proved to do some amazing feats.

Read what I wrote there, man.

DD is a better martial artist.

Cap is an all-around better fighter due mostly to his superhuman enhancements, shield, and his training.

braz I'm an agent of chaos...

Originally posted by Metalmanx

Cap is an all-around better fighter due mostly to his superhuman enhancements, shield, and his training.

and thats y he wins 🙂

The Fake Macoy Lousy Imitation

The bio rating says that 5 is a master of one style, and each level above is being a master of more styles. Being a master still makes you a great fighter. You don't need a million styles to win.

Alfheim Junior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Again. DD is arguably a superior martial artist to Cap.
Cap is an all-around better fighter, only because of his shield AND SSS really.
DD wins 6/10.

Metal you need to look at what you just said. What do fighters do....they fight. What do martial artists do....they fight. They both fight, Cap is an all round better fighter.....and DD is going to win 6/10? You do realise what you said does not make any sense.

Also Cap has had alot more experience than DD, he can adapt his fighting. So basically if you look at it Cap has more advantages.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by Alfheim
Metal you need to look at what you just said. What do fighters do....they fight. What do martial artists do....they fight. They both fight, Cap is an all round better fighter.....and DD is going to win 6/10? You do realise what you said does not make any sense.
Also Cap has had alot more experience than DD, he can adapt his fighting. So basically if you look at it Cap has more advantages.

Yes, but what I didn't mention was DD's superior senses. Ya know, those senses that allow him to hang with people that would normally outclass him. He can, for all intents and purposes, basically predict what Cap will do. And easily has fast enough reflexes to avoid/counter Cap's attacks. And then DD has the necessary skill to put Cap down in a fight.

That's why DD wins.

marvelprince Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by Alfheim
Metal you need to look at what you just said. What do fighters do....they fight. What do martial artists do....they fight. They both fight, Cap is an all round better fighter.....and DD is going to win 6/10? You do realise what you said does not make any sense.
Also Cap has had alot more experience than DD, he can adapt his fighting. So basically if you look at it Cap has more advantages.

Forgot bout those senses

Alfheim Junior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yes, but what I didn't mention was DD's superior senses. Ya know, those senses that allow him to hang with people that would normally outclass him. He can, for all intents and purposes, basically predict what Cap will do. And easily has fast enough reflexes to avoid/counter Cap's attacks. And then DD has the necessary skill to put Cap down in a fight.
That's why DD wins.

Yeah but you still said that Cap is an all round better fighter....ok are you know saying you retract that statement?

1. His sense will help but just because DD has his senses doesnt mean he will be fast enough to dodge his blows.

2. Cap can change his style to help him fool his senses.

3.Cap is stronger, more durable and has more stamina

4. Cap has more experience.

5. Both Wolverine and DD said that Cap is one of the world's greatest fighters.

7. They both have indestructible weapons....apparently and Cap hs mor experience using his.

6. DD is only slightly faster.

DD is not going to win the majority.

P.S. Marvelprince I saw that fight in the cemetry between Spidey and Wolvie. Wolvie got owned.

marvelprince Illuminati Founder

Agree with most.

Originally posted by Alfheim
1. His sense will help but just because DD has his senses doesnt mean he will be fast enough to dodge his blows.

Agreed. Does mean that he can better roll with the blow to reduce effectiveness

Originally posted by Alfheim
2. Cap can change his style to help him fool his senses.

Won't work. Changing styles works on regular fighters who watch you. Won't make much difference to DD which style is being used since he Cap's heartbeat, pulse etc won't change with his styles

Originally posted by Alfheim
3.Cap is stronger, more durable and has more stamina

Without a doubt

Originally posted by Alfheim
4. Cap has more experience.

Yeah

Originally posted by Alfheim
5. Both Wolverine and DD said that Cap is one of the world's greatest fighters.

Don't think anyones disputing that

Originally posted by Alfheim
7. They both have indestructible weapons....apparently and Cap hs mor experience using his.

Yeah, Bendis has said that the clubs are indestructible but I've seen Wolverine cut through em. I'll just say they're pretty though

Originally posted by Alfheim
6. DD is only slightly faster.

But faster nonetheless

Originally posted by Alfheim
DD is not going to win the majority.

Cap wins a very slight majority (his not being able to tire sealed the deal for me

Originally posted by Alfheim
P.S. Marvelprince I saw that fight in the cemetry between Spidey and Wolvie. Wolvie got owned.

Thank you. I thought it was a great showing for both characters but I fail to see how anyone could have thought Wolverine won that fight

Alfheim Junior Member

Originally posted by marvelprince

Won't work. Changing styles works on regular fighters who watch you. Won't make much difference to DD which style is being used since he Cap's heartbeat, pulse etc won't change with his styles

Well if he can give Spiderman's sense trouble he cant give DD trouble? If Cap can dodge computerised guns with targeting systems he cant give DD trouble? As you know he may his sense but he can only dodge so much, if Cap uses combinations on him there is only so much he can dodge.

Originally posted by marvelprince

Yeah, Bendis has said that the clubs are indestructible but I've seen Wolverine cut through em. I'll just say they're pretty though

So thats another advantage that Cap has.

Originally posted by marvelprince

Thank you. I thought it was a great showing for both characters but I fail to see how anyone could have thought Wolverine won that fight

No it wasnt Wolv did not even touch Spiderman, the only chance he got to touch him was when Spidey let him.....arghhhh!

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah but you still said that Cap is an all round better fighter....ok are you know saying you retract that statement?
1. His sense will help but just because DD has his senses doesnt mean he will be fast enough to dodge his blows.
2. Cap can change his style to help him fool his senses.
3.Cap is stronger, more durable and has more stamina
4. Cap has more experience.
5. Both Wolverine and DD said that Cap is one of the world's greatest fighters.
7. They both have indestructible weapons....apparently and Cap hs mor experience using his.
6. DD is only slightly faster.
DD is not going to win the majority.
P.S. Marvelprince I saw that fight in the cemetry between Spidey and Wolvie. Wolvie got owned.

Of course DD isn't going to say that he himself is one of the best fighters in the world. He's rather humble.

DD is faster. And more agile. And this is not a knock to the Cap. DD just is. DD also has faster reflexes. He batted away a single bullet with his billy-club, as well as caught a lethally-thrown card headed for Elektra's throat.

His superior senses via his radar sense will enable him to virtually predict all of Cap's moves and dogdge/counter them.

Ya know what? I've got a better idea. THIS is how Daredevil wins.

Superhuman strength:
- http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddandspvshyde13es.jpg
- http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil179071ug.jpg
- http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil179085lp.jpg
- http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil179098is.jpg
- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2042089gp.jpg
- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2042092oc.jpg
- http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil172209gk.jpg (just punches a brick into nothing)

Look how easily he wields both that 400lb barbell and the damn mailbox (which are very heavy).

Superior senses that will give him the advantage:
- http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddvsabsorbingman14bt.jpg
- http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddvsabsorbingman28qt.jpg
- http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddvsabsorbingman34ol.jpg
- http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spdd10115jf.jpg
- http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretwar03117te.jpg
- http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretwar03129dv.jpg

Superior Martial Arts ability:
- http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd57041pw.jpg
- http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd57053pt.jpg
- http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd57065jx.jpg
- http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd57088cd.jpg
- http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd57093ws.jpg

He takes out 100 (half enhanced human, half normal) Yakuza members with just his skills and his walking stick. Let’s see Cap do that. To top it all off? He does it all under three minutes.

Superior Agility:
- http://www.uri-geller.com/pics/comic4.jpg
- http://www.uri-geller.com/pics/comic-2.jpg
- http://www.uri-geller.com/pics/comic-1.jpg
- http://www.uri-geller.com/pics/comic10.jpg
- http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilyellow02b3rz.gif
- http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd166023oy.jpg
- http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd166032ys.jpg
- http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil174074jm.jpg (they were attempting to sneak up on him, too)
- http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil186188uu.jpg

This is why Daredevil gets the majority over Cap. Go ahead and check all of those out, Alfheim.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Accel
At the same time, DD’s no slouch in in the reflex department. it certainly would be beyond to to roll with that as well.

sure dd can roll with it... I'm not going to argue that he can't.. but cap can hit him just fine.. dodign bullets means almost nothing in this argument.

Originally posted by Accel
Well, considering he was punked by Iron Fist in their meeting

punked? more like staning there and letting fist punch him... the guy was smiling and telling IF he was waisting his time....

besides.. if IF was so superior to wolvie how come he and luke cage failed to beat kun lun when wolvie was doing it by himself?

Originally posted by Accel
and Cap actually seemed to show more skill in their most recent clash, I wouldn’t really consider it an edge.

more skill? how? was it the repated sneak attacks? no that can't be it.... 😬

Originally posted by Accel
I’m still not sure which you’re talking about. I read this and think of this moment…

not talking about that...

Originally posted by Accel
I don’t see why not. It’s not like Wolverine’s leagues above DD in reaction times, especially when he goes all slashy, slashy.

well for one... wolverine will be using skill not going into a skill-less rage that ennis likes to write him as...

socond if dd lands the shot it will heal before wolverine even realizes what happened and dd will then again be on the defensive...
problem is wolverine doesn't seem to be going all slashy slashy anymore.. he hasn't for some time now...

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
sure dd can roll with it... I'm not going to argue that he can't.. but cap can hit him just fine.. dodign bullets means almost nothing in this argument.

I never really compared Cap to a bullet, but it does show he has the reflexes to respond properly to his punches.

Originally posted by jinzin
punked? more like staning there and letting fist punch him... the guy was smiling and telling IF he was waisting his time....

Letting Fist hit him? He was trying to gut Iron Fist because he thought he was a burglar. Meanwhile Danny dodged his attacks, landed more blows, and even blocked one of his strikes to throw him straight out the window. Sounds like being punk’d to me.

Keep in mind, this was a relatively tired Danny, who was almost too drained to even summon his Iron Fist.

Originally posted by jinzin
besides.. if IF was so superior to wolvie how come he and luke cage failed to beat kun lun when wolvie was doing it by himself?

My guess is that it came down to the durability and healing factor. I find it funny that the guy, as skilled as he seemed, couldn’t dodge a simple lunge from Wolverine and seemed to reduce his fighting style to simple brawling.

Originally posted by jinzin
more skill? how? was it the repated sneak attacks? no that can't be it.... 😬

No, when they actually punch and kick each other and all that jazz. Cap even manages to turn Logan’s own claws against him. His only real disadvantage there was that he didn’t have a healing factor like Wolverine.

Originally posted by jinzin
not talking about that...

Okay…

jrodslam Senior Member

I say Daredevil 5.5/10 or 6/10.