The Constitution will include having a full time President of the council rather than the current rotation system. This move is supposed to maintain continuity, rather than having a handover at the end of each term which results into conflicting 'modus operandi' of each new presidency.
On this point i would agree ; it minimises gridlock.
Yet however the fcat the EU const. gives national parliaments more opportunity to object to EU laws, though no power to overturn them kinda sucks.
i havent made up my mind for certain.
Hmm, personally I think its an appauling (sorry about the spelling) idea.
The EU has done nothing but hassle scotland and the UK. We've had sanctions put on fishing, all sorts of nonsense. I'll admit i'm not very knowlegdable about it. But What the hell does something living in brussels/france/netherlands/beligum/germany/england know about scottish fishing? I know this is one example. But what right does someone in Brussels have to say Scots can't fish. Absolute morons if you ask me.
I can not see what possible reason there is to ban fishing. Which is all the EU has tried to do here.
Well that's one of the problems with the EU, they often come across as governing matters which are non of their concern, but the fishing from the Scottish fishermen in the northern sea (I'm assuming you mean that) affects fishermen all over Europe. So I can understand why it should be a European matter.
If countries don't like the idea of giving up their sovereignty then they should not have joined.
Ush is right tho about the constitution not saying much more than what is already been happening.
Maya it is not because a portion of the french citizens said NO (most of them for the wrong reasons even) that the whole of Europe disagrees with that constitution.
It's kinda sad that Chirac and all those other leaders opted for a referendum. Tons of people will vote NO for wrong reasons. Heck I even heard ppl saying the voted NO because of the Bolkestein directive, Which has nothing to do with the constitution. IMO the public doesn't know enough about the constitution to allow referendums. Plus I don't believe in it anywayz.
Personally I can't stand referendums; what is the point of having an elected democracy if you then have to go and consult the people on political decisions? Makes a mockery of the whole process; no wonder time gets wasted. The only referendum democracy needs is elections.
But the French will never stand for constituional change without public consultation.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Personally I can't stand referendums; what is the point of having an elected democracy if you then have to go and consult the people on political decisions? Makes a mockery of the whole process; no wonder time gets wasted. The only referendum democracy needs is elections.But the French will never stand for constituional change without public consultation.
No probably not, I also feel as if the group in favor of the constitution got into the fight way too late.
Originally posted by Clovie
then i would be able not to care about all these crap 😕 they said that joining the EU will help us...as for now it makes evewrything more complicated 😑 plus ppl don;t know how to get money from brussles, so it has no profits 😬
and they're only telling us what we can't do 😖
Poland, certainly it's farmers will benefit greatly from joining the EU just wait and see. The EU is a big bureaucratie sadly enough, but big organisations, always do. That's why normal people shouldn't have to worry about this stuff.
well you guys knew that before you joined. IF you want to be part of the club you have to accept its rules
Originally posted by Firei was against joining it from thew very beginning but i wasn't allowed to vote
Poland, certainly it's farmers will benefit greatly from joining the EU just wait and see. The EU is a big bureaucratie sadly enough, but big organisations, always do. That's why normal people shouldn't have to worry about this stuff.well you guys knew that before you joined. IF you want to be part of the club you have to accept its rules
plus i'm afraid that if we didn't have joined they'd destroy our ecconomy.
Europe would have destroyed your economy if you didn't join?
I find that pretty hard to believe.
Also I'm willing to bet heavily on the fact that joining the EU was a great move for Poland, it will just take quite a few years, but tons of countries in the union, objected to the expansion because it would cost them tons of money.
If the money would not reach the people of Poland, I think you should look at your government for corruption.
Dave the consitution was drafted by a special commity and then accepted by the European Commission, council and parliament
It was debated and argued over for a number of years before a senior French politician finally presented a finished version, which the EU heads of state signed, before putting it to ratification before their own states, which is the process now going on. The French ratification process has involved a referendum which has now failed, as it is also likely will happen in Holland.
Clovie, I very much doubt you would do better OUT of the EU.
Originally posted by dave123no idea 😕
[b]QuestionWho put forward the cConstitution? A country, a group of countries, an organisation....? 😕 [/B]
Originally posted by Fireyes. not purpously. but it would be the result of it 😬
Europe would have destroyed your economy if you didn't join?
I find that pretty hard to believe.Also I'm willing to bet heavily on the fact that joining the EU was a great move for Poland, it will just take quite a few years, but tons of countries in the union, objected to the expansion because it would cost them tons of money.
If the money would not reach the people of Poland, I think you should look at your government for corruption.
we weren't ready to join it.
of course it is gov's fault. 😠 🙁