Originally posted by Ianus
So I guess the Battle of Endor and the subsequent fights she endured mean nothing, huh? Some bimbette who fires a carbine one-handed must be better.
Yeah, and Leia was actually with her back to a wall, being protected ONLY by Han Solo, while Padme had an army of Jedi to protect her from being killed, not to say the least of Obi-Wan the Soresu master and Anakin the Shien deflection master keeping blaster bolts from her.
Really, Padme is not a military chick, she's a politician. Look at how she holds her gun- she holds a friggin' carbine one handed, elbow locked and straight. She knows nothing of warfare, period.
Leia pwns her.
Yeah, and Leia was actually with her back to a wall, being protected ONLY by Han Solo, while Padme had an army of Jedi to protect her from being killed
Originally posted by Ianus
She had air support on her march up to Theed though. And again, she had body guards, and a Gungan army providing support. Leia had Han and no cover.
Originally posted by darthsith19What did you expect from Leia in that position?
Gungans were fightinh their own battle. Naboo fighters were fighting their own battle. Her Jedi bodyguards were fighting Maul. It was just her, Panaka and a few Volunteer Naboo Officers and they fought their way all the way to the Viceroy. Leia and Han had hundreds, of forces and Leia still got injured. And Leia had more covor than Padme. She got shot because she was looking away from her opponents. A stupid strategy.
Don't forget, Obi-Trice....I mean Obi-Wan, and Quiggy, escorted through the streets right to the hanger. Half the battle over there. After that, she encountered battle droids, no tanks, no Droideka, not until she surrendered, while still being escorted by her men and Panaka.
Don't forget that there were two groups making their way through the palace, so the security would be divided to deal with them.
Then there's Leia. She had like what? 10 commandos left? All of them seperated and split up over the terrain. She and Han alone were cornered into the doorway. Stormtroopers galore, 5 AT-ST's vs. One Princess, one Pirate, 10 commandos, and primitives that dealt little damage at first. (despite the numbers)
Then add Leia's many other escapades, her flight through the DS, her fight in Cloud City, and whatever the Hell else she had been through.
All that chalked up to Padme's subtle infiltration (though not "battleistic"😉 and her unrealistic survival at Geonosis.
And you say Padme's better? Or is that just because she's hawter?
Obi-Wan, and Quiggy, escorted through the streets right to the hanger. Half the battle over there.
Don't forget that there were two groups making their way through the palace, so the security would be divided to deal with them.
Then there's Leia. She had like what? 10 commandos left? All of them seperated and split up over the terrain. She and Han alone were cornered into the doorway. Stormtroopers galore, 5 AT-ST's vs. One Princess, one Pirate, 10 commandos, and primitives that dealt little damage at first. (despite the numbers)
her flight through the DS
her fight in Cloud City
And you say Padme's better? Or is that just because she's hawter?
I think Leia all together, up to ROTJ at least.
I regret not taking a leaf out of Nai's book and explaining my points further now.
Oh well.
I meant half, figuritively. They were past the open roads, and away from the tanks.
I don't know what the novelization about TPM says, but it sure didn't look like too many droids.
I'll admit I hold no true appreciation for Leia's battle at Endor. The fact that the two of them were stuffed in an exposed corner with enemies everywhere, and their allies able to do little against the stormtrooper legion, is what I find impressive.
It's true, they were running from dumbass troops letting them go. Oversight on my part.
Leia, Chewie, and Lando fought their way out of Cloud City, under Vader's nose, and without his consent that he had in ANH. If I recall correctly, Padme herself ran from a hallway of droids. She skipped several floors of them in fact, and if it wasn't for her decoy (whose character I love more than the real Padme) then the Viceroy would've won. Essentially.
And I've noticed some biased opinions surrounding Padme just because she's hotter than Leia.
I don't know what the novelization about TPM says, but it sure didn't look like too many droids.
The fact that the two of them were stuffed in an exposed corner with enemies everywhere, and their allies able to do little against the stormtrooper legion, is what I find impressive.
under Vader's nose
If I recall correctly, Padme herself ran from a hallway of droids. She skipped several floors of them in fact, and if it wasn't for her decoy (whose character I love more than the real Padme) then the Viceroy would've won. Essentially.
More droids yeah. But they were scattered over a very large palace, not concentrated in one area.
Your exaggerating quite a bit.
Cloud City was under Imperial Lockdown, Leia's party escaped, not attacked. And attacking is hard to do, but escaping can be even more difficult.
And the hell? Where's Lando gonna conjure the equipment while running for his life?