What does it take to go to hell? · Religion Forum

debbiejo Dreamer

Originally posted by sonnet
1 Cor 14:2 "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not to men, but unto God.... ,
It is also called (in scripture) the tongues of angels.
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According to scripture "what are angels?".....Messengers of god.....Is god the author of confusion?

Like I said before in an all English speaking church.....what good would it do to speak such confusion...leaving the conjuration wondering????....

I have been in many pentecostal churches....and believe me.....Theres been many false statements made...the only ones that are true....are only the ones that are speaking nothing but scripture,... and warnings....And who determines where that spirit is coming from?......There are many things seen and unseen, if you are waiting for something seen, you just might get it, not matter where that spirit comes from....Funny how I lived my whole life in that type of church.....the speaking in tongues, I've heard it so many times, I can do it myself....memorized it that it was so frequent.....What purpose would god give for that being a church that has the truth....?????....Why not in any language but the same ol one alway used.....Sounds Like something similar to Arabic, but not...

Besides Jesus spoke Aramaic......but still, it's all out of context...it's history...If infact it is true.

sonnet Angeloflight

Originally posted by debbiejo
According to scripture "what are angels?".....Messengers of god.....Is god the author of confusion?
Like I said before in an all English speaking church.....what good would it do to speak such confusion...leaving the conjuration wondering????....
I have been in many pentecostal churches....and believe me.....Theres been many false statements made...the only ones that are true....are only the ones that are speaking nothing but scripture,... and warnings....

Angels are created by God. According to scripture angels are created to do specific tasks, some worship, some bring messages, it is all in the scriptures. There is a very clear order within the ranks of the angels.
If you have the knowledge (available from scripture) about the working of the Holy Spirit through us then you will not be left wondering even in a all German speaking church.
As for interpretation and even prophesy, the Bible says that we must listen and then compare it to what is written in God's word for He will not give any prophesy or interpretation that is controrary to what is written in his word. For example is some one should stand up and speak in tongues and the interpretation tells the people to build a large statue of God then we will know,according to scripture that the interpretation is false and not from the Spirit for the Bible says that we should not make any images of God. 1 Cor 14 tells us that the purpose of speaking in tongues and prophesy is for upliftment and comfort of the individual and the congregation.

debbiejo Dreamer

It's gibberish....All sounds the same....can't even be translated by a translator when taped...Some churches give classes in talking in tongues...etc.....and you sure do like quoting from the Gnostic Paul don't you.....If the god of the Bible is all powerful, then why not do away with the utterances of such a thing of CONFUSION.....god isn't the author of CONFUSION.....Satan is.....

El_NINO Hablo Espanol

Here is something interesting then, if one of the 10 commandments states that you cannot kill, then how would you feel if you were at war right now?

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by El_NINO
Here is something interesting then, if one of the 10 commandments states that you cannot kill, then how would you feel if you were at war right now?

Good point!

The god of the Old Testament gave the Jews the 10 commandments, including do not kill. Then that same god tells the Jews to go into the land of the Cainnites (sp?) and kill everyone. So, this god will tell you what to do but then tell you to brake that rule.

El_NINO Hablo Espanol

I believe in Jesus and thats all you need to do, read a bit on him everyday or once a week thats all. You dont need to go to church why because they take your money. All you need in order to go into heaven is the faith of a mustard seed and believe. If you pick up the bible you are believing because your reading it.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by El_NINO
I believe in Jesus and thats all you need to do, read a bit on him everyday or once a week thats all. You dont need to go to church why because they take your money. All you need in order to go into heaven is the faith of a mustard seed and believe. If you pick up the bible you are believing because your reading it.

Take one more step. You don't need to read the bible, cause there are a lot of good to great holy books out there. I read the Lotus Sutra and the Writings of Nichiren Daishonin.

http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/bofnd.html

finti Senior Member

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debbiejo Dreamer

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sonnet Angeloflight

Originally posted by debbiejo
It's gibberish....All sounds the same....can't even be translated by a translator when taped...Some churches give classes in talking in tongues...etc.....and you sure do like quoting from the Gnostic Paul don't you.....If the god of the Bible is all powerful, then why not do away with the utterances of such a thing of CONFUSION.....god isn't the author of CONFUSION.....Satan is.....

Speaking in tongues only happens through the working of the Holy Spirit and thus comes from God. It is when your spirit speaks to God. So why would God do away with a gift he bestows upon us? There are no confusion for the believers, those to whom this is relevant.
Yes some churches are clueless and think they can go beyond scripture and "teach" people the godly language. This is a offence to God. The Bible teaches us how this comes about. No class can make it authentic. Do not judge God by what people and churches do!!!!
In your opinion as a unbeliever Paul is a gnostic. There are no evidence of this in the Bible, on the contrary he clearly states his dedication of his life to Jesus, the son of God who died for his sins and was resurrected from the dead and now are in heaven. He was not a philosopher but taught and wrote by the inspiration from God through the Holy Spirit. This is evident in all of his writings.

sonnet Angeloflight

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Take one more step. You don't need to read the bible, cause there are a lot of good to great holy books out there. I read the Lotus Sutra and the Writings of Nichiren Daishonin.
http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/bofnd.html

I know who wrote the Bible but not who wrote the ones you mentioned. So I'll rather stay with the Bible and fill my spirit with the word of God.

debbiejo Dreamer

Originally posted by sonnet
Speaking in tongues only happens through the working of the Holy Spirit and thus comes from God. It is when your spirit speaks to God. So why would God do away with a gift he bestows upon us? There are no confusion for the believers, those to whom this is relevant.
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It's not needed if the whole congragation is of one language...What would be the purpose of it?

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by sonnet
I know who wrote the Bible but not who wrote the ones you mentioned. So I'll rather stay with the Bible and fill my spirit with the word of God.

You don't know who wrote the bible, no one does.

finti Senior Member

well we all know what they gonna answer they to that though..................the bible is the word of god........................bored

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by finti
well we all know what they gonna answer they to that though..................the bible is the word of god........................bored

Yes, and who heard the word and wrote it down, and then, who translated it, and then, who changed it, and then, who re-translated it, and then who re-changed it, and then, who interoperated it, and then... and then…

I know who did, humans did. 😄

debbiejo Dreamer

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, and who heard the word and wrote it down, and then, who translated it, and then, who changed it, and then, who re-translated it, and then who re-changed it, and then, who interoperated it, and then... and then…
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And put it in a pie.... 😄 ....and you have to eat this pie, or you'll die...

It's called "Eternal die pie"...

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by debbiejo
And put it in a pie.... 😄 ....and you have to eat this pie, or you'll die...
It's called "Eternal die pie"...

Can I have some of that too?

FeceMan Restricted

Originally posted by Comic Book
I heard if you break atleast 2 of the 10 commandments, you go straight to hell.

You heard wrong.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Re: Why if you don't do 2 of the 10C you go tell hell

Originally posted by Game Over
I heard if you break atleast 2 of the 10 commandments, you go straight to hell.

it doesnt matter what you do in this life. you can be a serial killer, be on death row with your execution an hour away. if, for some reason, during that last hour, you discover god and beg forgiveness for all your sins, you are forgiven and you go to heaven. you have to really believe it and be sincere, turn your life over to god.

sonnet Angeloflight

Originally posted by debbiejo
It's not needed if the whole congragation is of one language...What would be the purpose of it?

You might not see the purpose of it, but God has a purpose for it ,that is why He gave it to us as a gift. Nothing in God's word is without purpose. You do not have to agree with it, but it still is there.