What does it take to go to hell?

Started by sonnet10 pages

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You don't know who wrote the bible, no one does.

You may not know, but I do and so does everybody who believes in Jesus, the son of God, who is the Saviour. You cannot try to reason this out with your intelect because tnhe word of God is written for our spiritual growth and not our minds. You cannot believe that the Bible is the written word of God if your spirit has not been renewed by faith and salvation through Jesus Christ because that is when God's spirit starts to communicate and testifies with your spirit.

Originally posted by sonnet
You may not know, but I do and so does everybody who believes in Jesus, the son of God, who is the Saviour. You cannot try to reason this out with your intelect because tnhe word of God is written for our spiritual growth and not our minds. You cannot believe that the Bible is the written word of God if your spirit has not been renewed by faith and salvation through Jesus Christ because that is when God's spirit starts to communicate and testifies with your spirit.

I used to be a Christian and I know all of that Bullsh*t. I am not insulting you personally, but it is all a lie. What they tell you is rationalization. They don't want you to know the truth and they will keep it from you. OK, don't take my word for it, read the bible with an open mind. Read it from the beginning to the end and you will see that what the leaders in your church say is not what is in the bible. Please forgive me for making you mad, but I care, because I used to be there.

Originally posted by sonnet
You might not see the purpose of it, but God has a purpose for it ,that is why He gave it to us as a gift. Nothing in God's word is without purpose. You do not have to agree with it, but it still is there.

So, it serves no purpose for us at this time...unless you mean only to confuse people.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Read it from the beginning to the end and you will see that what the leaders in your church say is not what is in the bible. Please forgive me for making you mad, but I care, because I used to be there.

Exactly the point I made some time ago. Many church leaders does not preach what is in the Bible, but their version of it to serve their own purpose whether it be finances ect. That is why it does not make sense that the Bible was written by churches because it would be stupid to write something and then not keep in line with the writings. There are Catholic rituals, paying to be forgiven and even confession that is against what is written in the Bible. The Bible says that forgiveness from God is for free, so is salvation and no where does it say that you need to go through a priest to get forgiveness. The Bible says that Jesus intercedes for us with the Father when we pray. The Bible is not a lie because God's word are true. I receicved miraculous growth of a limb that was shorter that the other in a matter of seconds in front of many witnesses while being prayed for in the name of Jesus as we are instructed to do so in God's word. I would have been handicapped today because docters could not do much, if it was not the name of Jesus and my faith in the trueth of God's word. I know it is not a lie. I have seen many times how God has intervened in peoples lives and circumstances after they've put their faith in Him and Him only and held on to the promises in His word. My faith is strong not because of what people has told me but because I have been touched by God and the power of His word.

Originally posted by debbiejo
So, it serves no purpose for us at this time...unless you mean only to confuse people.

Just because you think it does not serve any purpose does not make it so. God gives us the purpose in His word. Read it. God's purpose does not always make sence to our minds but that does not change His purpose or make it useless. Only if you do not believe then you will think of it this way.

^ I have read it....But the "Speaking in Tongues"..has no purpose for today...What would be the purpose?..God is beyond language.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The Catholic differs from The King James Bible
[B]First Commandment

I, the LORD, am your God...You shall not have other gods besides me.
First Commandment
I am the LORD thy God...Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Second Commandment
You shall not take the name of the LORD, your God, in vain.
Second Commandment
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

Third Commandment
Remember to keep holy the sabbath day.
Third Commandment
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.

Fourth Commandment
Honor your father and your mother.
Fourth Commandment
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Fifth Commandment
You shall not kill.
Fifth Commandment
Honor thy father and thy mother.

Sixth Commandment
You shall not commit adultery.
Sixth Commandment
Thou shalt not kill.

Seventh Commandment
You shall not steal.
Seventh Commandment
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Eighth Commandment
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Eighth Commandment
Thou shalt not steal.

Ninth Commandment
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
Ninth Commandment
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Tenth Commandment
You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
Tenth Commandment
Thou shalt not covet.

The Catholic 10 takes out any reference to graven images. [/B]

I was about to ask someone to post them... i'm not too boned up on my religious propaganda

😄

coveting my neighbour's wife or house isn't really something i can help.... i either covet her or i don't.... not really a matter of choice

Re: What does it take to go to hell?

Originally posted by XxoooxX
Cristians I have a question. What does someone need to do to go to hell like inorder for god to send someone to hell?

Just be born (we are all born sinners and in need of the Savior Jesus Christ to save us from our sins). If you do not confess Jesus as your Lord and, repent of your sins, and believe in your heart that God has raised Jesus from the dead you will go to Hell. We are all destined for Hell apart from Christ. Jesus wants to be your Savior (and anyone else who is reading this post) so that He can save you from Hell. Let Jesus save you. Ask Jesus to save you from your sins in your own way and I promise (guarantee) that He will give you eternal life and peace that passes all understanding.

Re: Re: What does it take to go to hell?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Just be born (we are all born sinners and in need of the Savior Jesus Christ to save us from our sins).

Which is perfectly just and fair when one considers free will and all that. Oh wait, not it isn't.

If you do not confess Jesus as your Lord and, repent of your sins, and believe in your heart that God has raised Jesus from the dead you will go to Hell.

I hope when I have committed my fiftieth murder and I am bought before the judge that all I will have to say is "I am really sorry" and I will escape a jail sentence, even more then that he will give me a big mansion as a reward for repenting.

We are all destined for Hell apart from Christ. Jesus wants to be your Savior (and anyone else who is reading this post) so that He can save you from Hell. Let Jesus save you. Ask Jesus to save you from your sins in your own way and I promise (guarantee) that He will give you eternal life and peace that passes all understanding.

So how will we understand it when we pass on? Do our souls get an understanding upgrade or something?

So JHY, did Ghandi go to Heaven? Did Confuscious?

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
So JHY, did Ghandi go to Heaven? Did Confuscious?
If they have asked Jesus Christ to save them and if they have repented of their sins then then yes I believe that they are in Heaven.

Re: Re: What does it take to go to hell?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Just be born (we are all born sinners and in need of the Savior Jesus Christ to save us from our sins). If you do not confess Jesus as your Lord and, repent of your sins, and believe in your heart that God has raised Jesus from the dead you will go to Hell. We are all destined for Hell apart from Christ. Jesus wants to be your Savior (and anyone else who is reading this post) so that He can save you from Hell. Let Jesus save you. Ask Jesus to save you from your sins in your own way and I promise (guarantee) that He will give you eternal life and peace that passes all understanding.

So simple existance renders you eligible for Hell ?

God sounds like a dictator to me.... 🙁

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If they have asked Jesus Christ to save them and if they have repented of their sins then then yes I believe that they are in Heaven.

So if Ghandi never asked for Christ' forgivness, then he is in Hell right now getting tortured for all eternity, beyond any sort of logical understanding, simply because he existed?

Do you see the lack of logic you always present?

Basically what it takes to go to hell, according to Christianity and Islam is to not believe in one of those. You believe in Christianity, off to Islam hell you go. You follow Islam, off to Christian Hell you go.

To qualify for Christian and Islamic hell, you can also be any other religion, or not religious at all.


Logic:

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

And:

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

Therefore:

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God

Because:

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

Translation: God says that the wages of sin is death. Everyone dies (or is subject to death ultimately); therefore, all people must of necessity be sinners because all die. That is perfectly logical. It didn't say that all people will eventually die just because. There is a reason why we die (and no it is not because of old age). The underlying reason we get old and die is called sin. Folks since sin is the reason that there is death, and we are all going to die, then that means that we are all sinners.

Romans 8:22
because [COLOR=blue]the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

Moreover, sin is the reason why there is death in nature as well. Adam's sin opened the door to the law of sin and death: a principle or law that impacts nature and other organisms. The Bible reveals that all of creation (i.e. nature) groans and will one day be delivered from the bondage of corruption (i.e. sin and death).[/COLOR]

^Sin is not the reason for death. 🙄 The need to make room for the next generation is the reason for death. Without death we would never evolve, and we would not be able to adapt.

Re: Re: What does it take to go to hell?

Originally posted by sonnet
If you reject Jesus as son of God and saviour then hell is were you will end up. Also when you blaspheme againt the Holy Spirit .When you have accepted Jesus and become born again (spiritually) you have to seek sanctification. But for a even better guide read the Bible. It will answer your questions.

Don't forget not sleeping with anyone before marriage and going to church on sundays and keep all ten laws!jm

And shaving! Not having the proper candle arrangements! Wearing garmets made from two different kinds of threads, appreoaching the alter of god with imperfect sight. Looking at your wife whilst she is mensturating....

Re: What does it take to go to hell?

*["Cristians I have a question. What does someone need to do to go to hell like inorder for god to send someone to hell?"]

***Nothing!

Adam and Eve sinned when they disobeyed God in [Genesis 3:6] and SIN entered into the world...and ALL of creation FELL. God then sentenced them to DEATH in [Genesis 3:19]: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, TILL THOU RETURN TO THE GROUND; for out of the ground wast thou taken: for DUST THOU ART, and UNTO DUST SHALT THOU RETURN."

But because God [in His infinite mercy] loved man, He PROMISED to send a REDEEMER [Genesis 3:15...the SEED ot the "Woman"] and raised up a nation through whom the "seed" would come. That "seed" was Jesus Christ...the Kinsman REDEEMER of Israel who is God's "provision" for the salvation of the whole world: "And He is the propitiation (i.e., sacrifice) for our sins; and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world" [1 John 2:2].

In answer to your question...one has to do NOTHING to go to HELL...for we are all born sinners on our way to Hell. God sent His Son Jesus Christ who took our sins upon Himself [that is, He became our SUBSTITUTE and took the consequences of our sins upon Himself and satisfied the justice of God on our behalf]. He offers us salvation as a Gift [Ephesians 2:8,9]...FREE of CHARGE when we place our trust in His COMPLETED work at Calvary for us.

Now because salvation is a GIFT we must RECEIVE it [Revelations 3:20;John 1:12,13] to be saved...that is we must reach out in faith and receive the GIFT of God [Jesus Christ]..."For the wages of sin is death; but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" [Romans 6:23].

Failure to ACCEPT God's PROVISION for our salvation in Jesus Christ will send you to Hell.

Marchello

Hell is NOW!............not later on in an imaginary place just as Jesus taught.