Wolverine vs The Thing

Originally posted by masterbruce
good points Tony, you just discredited all of jinzin's and capt's 'evidence'

Originally posted by masterbruce
good points Tony, you just discredited all of jinzin's and capt's 'evidence'

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Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah he totally discredited us.. he discredit us like Hulk shut Logan down with that tunderclap..
😂

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he pointed out that

1. you made up the 12 feet away fact. In reality, we don't know how far away Logan was when Ben thunderclapped.

2. you exaggerated that Logan knocked ben into having stars when those were Logan's dizziness.

3. it was grey hulk who produced 'almost lethal' force on Logan. So Ben is actually stronger.

see, how you Logan fans always paint the evidence to your favor and try to hide the details that weaken your arguments? 😎

Tony Stark is more knowledgeable about comics than me, that's why he's been able to catch all the deception you guys have been spreading.

I hope he keeps up the good work.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Tony Stark is more knowledgeable about comics than me, that's why he's been able to catch all the deception you guys have been spreading.

I hope he keeps up the good work.

The kid jsut yells pis at every thing. he has no diea what he talking about.

funny you look up to a man who consider a complete joke on the forum how fitting.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
..........wow your actaully serous.

The kid jsut yells pis at every thing. he has no diea what he talking about.

funny you look up to a man who consider a complete joke on the forum how fitting.

um no, he doesn't just call PIS. stop making things up like you always do.

He specifically pointed out the details that discredit the various evidence you guys give. Feel free to point out his mistakes, but don't lie about it.

Originally posted by masterbruce
he pointed out that

1. you made up the 12 feet away fact. In reality, we don't know how far away Logan was when Ben thunderclapped.

It's a guestimation.. it's easy to determine that he was within that vecinity if you just look at the scan, trying to draw attention to the point that it's not a "fact" is nothing more than a red herring as several feet won't make much the difference.

Originally posted by masterbruce
2. you exaggerated that Logan knocked ben into having stars when those were Logan's dizziness.

Logan hit Ben so hard he had chips flying of his rocky hide and ben was out on the floor for a page..

Originally posted by masterbruce
3. it was grey hulk who produced 'almost lethal' force on Logan. So Ben is actually stronger.

Which you would say if you didn't know ONE THING about Grey Hulk other than his BASE strength.. 😐

And you're continuing to not only exaggerate the effect that the thunderclap had on Logan, but ignore the instances where the thunderclap was not effective AT ALL... 😐

Originally posted by masterbruce
see, how you Logan fans always paint the evidence to your favor and try to hide the details that weaken your arguments? 😎

No.. because unlike the opposition we post scans to prove our points... we use evidence from things that have happened... We use facts instead oof speculation and red herrings to get our points across....

See how you Wolvie-haters always ignore the facts as they stand?

Originally posted by masterbruce
he pointed out that

1. you made up the 12 feet away fact. In reality, we don't know how far away Logan was when Ben thunderclapped.

does it matter? it not going to stop the thunderclap from working........

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Originally posted by masterbruce
. it was grey hulk who produced 'almost lethal' force on Logan. So Ben is actually stronger.

Ben not stronger then grey hulk actaully. Ben ismas strong as grey hulk. Grey hulk was also pissed which increases his strength.

Oh and you have one event of a thunder clap doing something to logan, but only for roughly a few seconds.

We have two events of Logan being completely un fazed by a thunder clap

............so as stated the thunder clap will have no effect on Logan

Originally posted by masterbruce
Tony Stark is more knowledgeable about comics than me, that's why he's been able to catch all the deception you guys have been spreading.

I hope he keeps up the good work.

Oh please, he couldn't catch a cold if it was comic book related.. all he's done is fillibuster.

let me repeat this, I never said the thunderclap would KO Logan, but it would disorient him temporarily so that Ben gets an opening to lay the smack down on the runt

even then, I said Logan takes the majority

Originally posted by masterbruce
let me repeat this, I never said the thunderclap would KO Logan, but it would disorient him temporarily so that Ben gets an opening to lay the smack down on the runt

even then, I said Logan takes the majority

And let me repeat this.. So far thunderclaps have been less than affective on Logan.. 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
And let me repeat this.. So far thunderclaps have been less than affective on Logan.. 😐

no, actually, according to Logan himself, clearly the thunderclap is like kryptonite to someone with acute hearing like his

I understand he recovered pretty fast from grey hulk's clap, but that was only because for some idiotic reason, the grey hulk allowed Logan time to go into berserker mode instead of bashing his head in when he was fazed

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, actually, according to Logan himself, clearly the thunderclap is like kryptonite to someone with acute hearing like his

I understand he recovered pretty fast from grey hulk's clap, but that was only because for some idiotic reason, the grey hulk allowed Logan time to go into berserker mode instead of bashing his head in when he was fazed

Originally posted by Battlehammer
so your jsut gunna ignore the other evidence which shows it ineffective against Logan..........who you are one bias person. It sad rea;;y.

what other evidence shows it is ineffective against Logan?

the ridiculous scan where Hulk looks like the blob and Wolverine makes wisecracks after not even being fazed by a powerful thunderclap an inch away from his face??? are you seriously gonna rely on that?

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, actually, according to Logan himself, clearly the thunderclap is like kryptonite to someone with acute hearing like his

He said almost lethal.. and he negated it the very next instant.... It's nothing more than a hyporbole on his part...

And like Cresh said, what does almost lethal mean coming from a guy who takes multitudes of lethal for breakfast?

Originally posted by masterbruce
I understand he recovered pretty fast from grey hulk's clap, but that was only because for some idiotic reason, the grey hulk allowed Logan time to go into berserker mode instead of bashing his head in when he was fazed

Originally posted by masterbruce
what other evidence shows it is ineffective against Logan?

the ridiculous scan where Hulk looks like the blob and Wolverine makes wisecracks after not even being fazed by a powerful thunderclap an inch away from his face??? are you seriously gonna rely on that?

wait wait wait wait. Your going to ignore it as evidence becuase of the way it drawn? and you have the balls to say I am bias? Your a joke get the hell out of here.

Your whole argument's nonsense anyways Masterbruce... what little effect the thunderclap did have on Wolverine was only effective for as long as it took Wolverine to heal... So why is it ineffective now?

Maybe because these days he heals at an exponentially faster rate...

Analysis:

1. Hulk thunderclaps a decent distance away from Logan

2. Logan says it's almost lethal...and by his reaction, it looks like his brains got scrambled

here is where it gets confusing

3. Hulk, instead of going in for the kill, does what? According to Logan: "he keeps on me, shouting, cursing, not giving me time to think" and we see Hulk's large fist punching the ground...yes, the ground and not Logan.

Well guess what Hulk, shouting and cursing at Logan won't beat him...only gives him time to heal and get angry. Lesson learned, hopefully.

4. Inexplicably, Logan is now by himself with the Hulk NO WHERE IN SIGHT, still visibly shaken up as his head is down and knees bent. He obvisouly didn't run away in this sad condition, the Hulk ALLOWED him to get away.

now take from that what you will. but to say Logan was unaffected is a boldface lie.

Originally posted by masterbruce

ok, this is ridiculous

it's drawn like a friggin calvin and hobbes cartoon

I refuse to take it seriously

as for this scan, I really don't think I need to go into why it's garbage. It doesn't even portray Wolverine right. Please, Wolverine fan(boys), gain some self-respect and never use this scan as evidence again.

Originally posted by masterbruce

Analysis:

1. Hulk thunderclaps a decent distance away from Logan

2. Logan says it's almost lethal...and by his reaction, it looks like his brains got scrambled

here is where it gets confusing

3. Hulk, instead of going in for the kill, does what? According to Logan: "he keeps on me, shouting, cursing, not giving me time to think" and we see Hulk's large fist punching the ground...yes, the ground and not Logan.

Well guess what Hulk, shouting and cursing at Logan won't beat him...only gives him time to heal and get angry. Lesson learned, hopefully.

4. Inexplicably, Logan is now by himself with the Hulk NO WHERE IN SIGHT, still visibly shaken up as his head is down and knees bent. He obvisouly didn't run away in this sad condition, the Hulk ALLOWED him to get away.

now take from that what you will. but to say Logan was unaffected is a boldface lie.

Logan is shaking with rage.......and adrenalin...........

If logan was truely so effected he enevr would have been able to dodge hulks punch such as he did.