He is a force
Originally posted by ckingHe is a power not a force like he forces anybody to do anything. He is almighty they could have said the will of god be with you. It sounded like a blessing like the vulcans said live long and prosper in star trek.
that is different, God doesn't force people and he never does wrong.
without freedom of will we would just be robots doing what we were programmed to do.thats really how I do look at religious people
Originally posted by finti
so if god had not given the choice man wouldnt have sinned. Since , according to your faith, god gave man that choice god has to take part of the responsibility for it being so
Sorry, but if someone gives you something lets say a nife and you kill a nother person with that, You are the murder not the other person. The other person cannot even be held responsible for your actions. God gave us a choice. We alone are responsible for the choices we make.But for you it is always nicer to blame God, gives you the escape route.
guess I can write it one more time, its like if I gave my kid a gun and said now you can either shoot the neighbour or you can let it be. If my kid blast the neighbour aint I very much responsible for that to happen
But for you it is always nicer to blame God, gives you the escape route.no why should I blame something I dont believe in
How did you get here
Originally posted by fintiSomeone or something had to start it all, if it wasn't god what was it.
guess I can write it one more time, its like if I gave my kid a gun and said now you can either shoot the neighbour or you can let it be. If my kid blast the neighbour aint I very much responsible for that to happenno why should I blame something I dont believe in
Originally posted by finti
guess I can write it one more time, its like if I gave my kid a gun and said now you can either shoot the neighbour or you can let it be. If my kid blast the neighbour aint I very much responsible for that to happen
God was not talking to kids when he gave Adam and Eve the warning not to eat from that tree. They were intelligent beings who could converse with God and fully understood the price they would pay.They made the choice. Yes you would be held responsible if you were stupid enough to give your kid a gun with that kind of choice included. So if you were standing in the shop to buy food for the month and you had to make the choice between lets say buying sweets or food and you buy sweets using most of your money then you cannot hold the shop responsible for your bad choice when you end up with no real food to eat. Yes, The shop gives you all the choices you can make but you need to make the right ones. That is why McDonald's won the court case where the parents were trying to sue them because their child was obese. They wanted McDonald's to take the responsibility for their bad choices when it came to providing their child with healthy food and eating habits. They lost because even the justice system supports this debate of "you are responsible for your own choices".