Comic Book Questions

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Originally posted by Ouallada
Someone let me know if this kind of discussion is forbidden here.

Dc++, like most other p2ps, doesn't have much older content, which is basically the problem with most torrents as well. Unless you can get access to a dedicated private tracker, filehosting sites (RS, newsgroups etc) will almost always be faster for sharing files or other shadier activities. Signing up is worth the cost, in my opinion.

I downloaded all Action Comics, some many older comics like Miracleman among others.

It has them.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Here's a question:

We know that Pre-Crisis feats are valid for the Green Lantern Corps because they were "somewhere else" during teh Crisis and not subject to the retcons. But do PC feats count for Alan Scott, who was present?

It's my understanding that pre-crisis feats are only invalidated in those cases where we are talking about characters from separate universes. Like how PC Superman is Earth-2 Superman, whereas current Superman is originally from Earth-1. Different people entirely. But if a character is the same, but merely switches Earths, like Alan did in going from Earth-2 to Earth-1, then their PC feats are still valid.

So I guess it's a general question, but just uses Alan as an example, since this could apply to a number of characters.

Actually, many recent reveals in Superman and Action have canonized pre-crisis for Superman. Not the feats, mayhaps, but the stories, the events; Superman actually participated in all of those.

Originally posted by Soljer
Actually, many recent reveals in Superman and Action have canonized pre-crisis for Superman. Not the feats, mayhaps, but the stories, the events; Superman actually participated in all of those.

Cool. But this is Earth-1 Superman having feats made canon that he did, not Earth-2 Supes (traditionally called pre-crisis Supes). Right? That would seem to validate my theory.

We don't throw out a person's feats if they jump universes, or even if their original universe is destroyed. The character, and their power set, remains the same. So my original example of Alan should mean that PC feats are valid (and for various others as well).

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Cool. But this is Earth-1 Superman having feats made canon that he did, not Earth-2 Supes (traditionally called pre-crisis Supes). Right? That would seem to validate my theory.

We don't throw out a person's feats if they jump universes, or even if their original universe is destroyed. The character, and their power set, remains the same. So my original example of Alan should mean that PC feats are valid (and for various others as well).

No, read recent issues of Action. It appears some Earth-2 is now canon again. Rational enough.

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Originally posted by Big Len
No, read recent issues of Action. It appears some Earth-2 is now canon again. Rational enough.

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That's probably because an Earth-2 exists again, even though it's presumably not the same as PC Earth-2 (the JSA are still on Earth-1, for example).

And why the "no"? This news would tend to agree with my idea, yes?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
That's probably because an Earth-2 exists again, even though it's presumably not the same as PC Earth-2 (the JSA are still on Earth-1, for example).

And why the "no"? This news would tend to agree with my idea, yes?

Why the No, because you assumed it was Earth 1 feats. As I say; Why be so stiff?

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Erm. I didn't assume anything. I'm honestly a bit lost in your point...I can't tell if you don't know what you're talking about, or if you just present it poorly.

Also, lulz at repeated references to me being uptight, stiff, too serious, etc. KMC is fun for me. Deciding that you want to attempt to create yourself in an image of the likable troll anti-hero, and then labeling me as the de facto antithesis of said character (probably because I represent an authority figure) doesn't work unless it's true, regardless of how many times you attempt to hammer it home, or how many smokin smilies you post (which actually just make you look like a douche when you clearly aren't making coherent points).

In other words, the glove doesn't fit.

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Anyway, does anyone actually want to address my question (Soljer did briefly, so my thanks to him). I think it's a valid theory.

Originally posted by Soljer
Actually, many recent reveals in Superman and Action have canonized pre-crisis for Superman. Not the feats, mayhaps, but the stories, the events; Superman actually participated in all of those.

Exactly how far does that extend? I mean, does that mean that things like the multiple PC versions of K-nite that affected PC Supes should work on current Supes now since he technically encountered them and had them affect him(since the events happened the same)?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Exactly how far does that extend? I mean, does that mean that things like the multiple PC versions of K-nite that affected PC Supes should work on current Supes now since he technically encountered them and had them affect him(since the events happened the same)?

You're absolutely obsessed with versions of K-nite aren't you?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're absolutely obsessed with versions of K-nite aren't you?

No, that was just the first thing that came to mind. I haven't been following Supes lately so I didn't know just how much of the Pre-Crisis Era we should take into consideration for the current characters. That's why I ask how far the recent alterations extended(the k-nite thing was just an example).

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, that was just the first thing that came to mind. I haven't been following Supes lately so I didn't know just how much of the Pre-Crisis Era we should take into consideration for the current characters. That's why I ask how far the recent alterations extended(the k-nite thing was just an example).

I'm pretty sure only what happened while he was with the Legion is canon. Since it took place very separate from the rest of his stories it's unlikely that anything else is canon along with them.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm pretty sure only what happened while he was with the Legion is canon. Since it took place very separate from the rest of his stories it's unlikely that anything else is canon along with them.

Ah ok. Thanks that's pretty much what I wanted to know 🙂 .

It's not just the Legion stuff anymore. The last Action Comics mentioned an event from a Pre-C Justice League comic.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Erm. I didn't assume anything. I'm honestly a bit lost in your point...I can't tell if you don't know what you're talking about, or if you just present it poorly.

Or option C, you have poor written comprehension......

Originally posted by DigiMark007

Also, lulz at repeated references to me being uptight, stiff, too serious, etc. KMC is fun for me. Deciding that you want to attempt to create yourself in an image of the likable troll anti-hero, and then labeling me as the de facto antithesis of said character (probably because I represent an authority figure) doesn't work unless it's true, regardless of how many times you attempt to hammer it home, or how many smokin smilies you post (which actually just make you look like a douche when you clearly aren't making coherent points).

Yes! You have a huge amount of authority, well done for achieving such status in life at such a young age. 15 year old forum mods are great.

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So, adamantium vs. transmutation? How's it do? Can anyone, [sub-Molecule Man], affect it by these methods?

Originally posted by Galan007
So, adamantium vs. transmutation? How's it do? Can anyone, [sub-Molecule Man], affect it by these methods?

Magneto was able to draw it from wolvies bones thru his skin,it looked like it was not only ripped from his bones, but almost like he made it malleable(it looked like liquid rather than hard metel ripped right from the bones)

Now changing it from a rare metal to lets say a flower? i dont know any instances of that, i think i remember someone making wolvies bones like a wet noodle? reality control...maybe

Originally posted by starlock
Now changing it from a rare metal to lets say a flower? i dont know any instances of that,
Yeah I'm just curious if anyone has changed it into another completely different element. Or at least drastically screwed with it's properties.

Originally posted by starlock
i think i remember someone making wolvies bones like a wet noodle? reality control...maybe
Thanos /w/ IG.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah I'm just curious if anyone has changed it into another completely different element. Or at least drastically screwed with it's properties.

Didn't Proteus do something like that not exactly transmutation but animate the adamantium?

I know adamantium can be converted to it's various allotropes though.
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen191018gg1.jpg

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Didn't Proteus do something like that not exactly transmutation but animate the adamantium?

I know adamantium can be converted to it's various allotropes though.
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen191018gg1.jpg

Is what Serafina did similar to something that Mags can do, as the latter breaks adamantium down into its components as well? Mags may not be the consumate chemist, but he could achieve something similar.

Do you have an issue for Proteus, because i can't recall that incident.

Maybe anti-metal could affect the adamantium.

Maybe RKT, as he has had some success with adamantium, but I don't think any real transmutation of adamantium has ever occured.

Originally posted by Big Len
Or option C, you have poor written comprehension......

Yes! You have a huge amount of authority, well done for achieving such status in life at such a young age. 15 year old forum mods are great.

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