Originally posted by Bad Ash231JLA/Avengers.....
Which is canon.
It was literally a single sentence in each of the two bios,
which, if one didn't know the details of the two minute incidents within the arc,
one would have absolutely no idea what the two sentences are referring to.
None of the two sentences, mentions anyone's name from DC btw,
some will cry because it's "copyright infringement" ...
my reply is, why would something that both companies accept as "canon"
be considered "copyright infringement" if both co.'s have truly established this as canon?
Obviously this cross-over is only "canon" withIN the cross-over itself.
(which means it's completely meaningless when considering the individual co.'s continuity)
But besides that,
the story takes place withIN a single Multiverse,
as in both companies share the same space,
and both companies,
(which here are the sentient embodiments of Eternity/Kismet)
are part of this single Multiverse.
That right there
throws the entire possibility of this being canon right out the window,
both Marvel and DC are far more than a single Multiverse on thier own,
to suggest that they share a single Multiverse then,
is even more preposterous, to the point of it being laughable actually.
If JLA/Avengers were truly canon,
then that would mean, if we consider the "sharing the same space nonsense"
AM/Spectre, Parallax, Mxy & Michael and whoever else, have re-created all of Marvel,
since they at some point wiped out then remade, or simply made all of DC,
same goes for the Alien Entity, HOM Wanda, Thanos/THOTI and whoever else,
who wiped out and recreated, or simply remade all of Marvel,
by default again, this means they had absolute power over DC likewise.
Which is rubbish.
No one in Marvel has power over anything in DC,
and vice-versa.
There's a host of other contradictions & paradoxes that make story ludicrous,
but you get the point Ash.
Response by the other guy regarding Thanos and the HOTU:
Right off the bat, there's a LOT that's omitted by that guy. This is why I wholly prefer the post the entire page, not selected bits of sentences.Either he's misreading, he's extremely biased in his interpretations of cosmic power, or is deliberately fooling the masses.
First off, MULTIPLE times in Marvel: The End, everything was stated to be relevant to the universe.
Not once did that guy acknowledge that, or even post a relevant page.
No, instead he focuses on the "all/omni reality" description and ignores the "universe" bits.
He even does the same with the Handbook entries, when applicable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Living Tribunal entry
". . . Thanos destroyed all that existed with his power, but subsequently had a change of heart and restored reality, ridding himself of his power; the re-created universe lacked the terminal flaw which Thanos sought to cure."
--All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity
"When Thanos used the Heart of the Infinite to destroy all reality, including Infinity, Warlock convinced him to recreate the universe and restore all abstracts.
--All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #5
As for "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality". . .In Marvel: The End, Jim Starlin equated the terms "all reality" and "omni reality" with the universe. You can argue that it formally refers to the omniverse, but Jim Starlin made it the universe.
All this really do is highlight the comic inconsistencies of Marvel, especially with regards to its cosmology.
Even more omissions:
"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power. . ."
Left out:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power and the universe suffers for it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
The Warlock Family allows me to explore themes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to examine in other characters. Could you imagine Spider-Man killing himself to save the universe?
As for the "Marvel Universe", yes, we do use that term to address the entirety of Marvel Comics. . .BUT, it can also be used to address mainstream Marvel Comics - the 616 universe. This is consistent with the average to even the most casual comic book reader; the multiverse concept is for involved/advanced readers.
Seriously, EM; read Marvel: The End yourself and form your own judgment. You'll find quite a bit that that guy omits. I know that you, EM, of all Battledomers, wouldn't want to operate on misinformation or distorted truths.
Originally posted by nimbus006
[B]Couple questions:1. Can someone please give me an answer for the differences between Trion Juggernaut and 8th Day Juggernaut?
Trion Juggernaut has access to the full power of Cytorrak. 8th Day Juggernaut is simply classic Juggernaut with all of his mental blocks removed and full mastery of his powers.
2. How did the Unipower enhance Surfer's power levels?
Not clear
3. Can Surfer with the Unipower take down Trion Jugggernaut?
Probably not, since a Herald level + Uni power doesn't match up to a Skyfather+ being. Post it in the vs forum if you disagree.
Originally posted by the other guyRight off the bat, there's a LOT that's omitted by that guy.
This is why I wholly prefer the post the entire page,
not selected bits of sentences.
Originally posted by the other guyEither he's misreading,
he's extremely biased in his interpretations of cosmic power,
or is deliberately fooling the masses.
Originally posted by the other guyFirst off, MULTIPLE times in Marvel: The End,
everything was stated to be relevant to the universe.
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Jim Starlin interview: (towards the middle of the interview)
In fact,
the dude asking Starlin questions compares "The End: Marvel" to Elseworlds,
cause he couldn't believe ALL of Marvel was really to be destroyed,
but Jim quickly clears that up with:
http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382
"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"
"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing" 😬
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But what would Starlin know about his own creation: dur
Originally posted by the other guyNot once did that guy acknowledge that, or even post a relevant page.
No,
instead he focuses on the "all/omni reality" description
and ignores the "universe" bits.He even does the same with the Handbook entries, when applicable.
You know full well Mike,
that I clearly pointed out that Jim called it "The Universe"
cause he was referring to the entire Universe.
As for "The Universe" bits, LOL!
Tell em he needs to brush up his Marvel cosmological related facts,
homie doesn't understand how Marvel works apparently.
The term ... "The Universe"
has been used before to describe/address the Multiverse:
(Abraxas arc)
This is a splash page,
notice on the left, "Multi-Eternity" (Multiverse)
which is a dub for "All of Eternity" really, (Multiverse)
is literally called "The Universe" on the right side of the splash.
Yes, coincidentally the infinite Multiverse is again referred to as "The Universe:
"and where one Eternity would ensure a boundless Universe,
a Multi-Eternity would ensure a "boundless Multiverse"
Yet on the very same splash page,
Cap. Universe labels "Multi-Eternity" as "The Universe"
"Within all Eternity, The Universe is a place of chaos and order"
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Genis/Entropy arc)
Backside Front Page:
"Entropy is the Son of,
Eternity,
the Cosmic Being whose Essence Encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE ...
Entropy has enlisted Captain Marvel in a Quest to Destroy His Father,
... Eternity and End All Creation"
......................................................................................
After Entropy and Captain Marvel Destroy
"Eternity, whose Essence Encompasses the Multiverse"
......................................................................................
Epiphany:
"Can't you see he's blaiming himself for failing to kill you and save the Universe?"
......................................................................................
Captain Marvel:
"think of all the times you saved the Universe,
Truth is. the Universe was living on borrowed time,
the truth is, the Universe did END with a whimper,
Eternity didn't want to keep going"
swank
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Just like in THOTI story! (The End: Marvel)
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Not to mention that Thanos/THOTI is credited with erasing the SAME Eternity,
that Abraxas threatened (Multi-Eternity)
and Genis/Entropy erased (Eternity the Multiverse)
all withIN Eternity's own bio:
("the other guy" brings up Eternity's bio and doesn't know this?)
Obviously this "other guy" is debating with ignorance!
Notice also,
that Roma the OMNIVERSAL guardian is referenced in her involvement,
if only 616, or the Multiverse was in danger,
why would the Omniversal guardian be associated with this story?
Because when the Prime Multiverse is truly in danger of being erased,
the entire Omniverse is likewise in danger of being erased as well,
just like both Uatu and Ute clearly pointed out.
Unlike the Genis/Entropy case where Entropy was destined to bring the Multiverse back.
Oh, proof on the Uatu and Ute knowledge concerning 616:
ALL of Marvel was erased/re-created by Genis/Entropy
as a result of erasing the infinite Prime Multiverse,
because it houses the 616 Reality,
and if the 616 Reality is erased, then ALL Reality follows,
since the 616 Reality is the foundation of Marvel:
.....................................................................................................
Uatu and the Watcher realized
that nanoseconds after the 616 Reality dies,
the Omniverse will die:
"After my last report however, we were forced to reinspect our fundamental principles.
We concluded that the destruction of This Universe,
while still bounded by the speed of light,
would occur within an expanding simultaneity, which would,
paratemporally, have begun immediately following the initial
nanoseconds of This Universe.
And then it would Expand outward from This Universe ...
we call it 616 ... to engulf All Others ... "
..................................................................................
Dr Stange is confused with the Uatu's explanation,
so Uatu tells him in plain engilsh the fact concerning the significance
of the 616 Reality:
Dr Strange says,
"I do not understand ... please explain more simply"
Uatu explains more simply,
"If your World Dies now, Stephen, it will take Everything with it.
Not only This Universe (616) but All the Other UniverseS as well.
Everything there is, will End.
Or rather put it even more simply, Everything will never have been"
..................................................................................
Is this a fluke? Not at all folks.
Here we are in yet another title where the same thing is stated,
by Ute:
"Or THIS, the Prime Reality (616) will fall and with it ... ALL EXISTENCE"
Originally posted by the other guyOriginally Posted by Living Tribunal entry
". . . Thanos destroyed all that existed with his power, but subsequently had a change of heart and restored reality, ridding himself of his power; the re-created universe lacked the terminal flaw which Thanos sought to cure."
--All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity
"When Thanos used the Heart of the Infinite to destroy all reality, including Infinity, Warlock convinced him to recreate the universe and restore all abstracts.
--All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #5
As for "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality". .
durlaugh
Well, according to Marvel ... "All Reality" = "The Omniverse:
..............................................................................
1. Omniverse
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
..............................................................................
Originally posted by the other guyIn Marvel: The End, Jim Starlin equated the terms "all reality" and "omni reality" with the universe. You can argue that it formally refers to the omniverse, but Jim Starlin made it the universe.
All this really do is highlight the comic inconsistencies of Marvel,
especially with regards to its cosmology.
LOL!!!!
The truth is,
this is just a highlight of this "other guy's" cluelessness about Marvel's cosmology.
Originally posted by the other guyEven more omissions:
"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power. . ."
Left out:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power and the universe suffers for it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
The Warlock Family allows me to explore themes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to examine in other characters. Could you imagine Spider-Man killing himself to save the universe?
Originally posted by the other guyQuote:
Originally Posted by StarlinAs for the "Marvel Universe",
yes, we do use that term to address the entirety of Marvel Comics. . .BUT, it can also be used to address mainstream Marvel Comics - the 616 universe. This is consistent with the average to even the most casual comic book reader; the multiverse concept is for involved/advanced readers.
I'm not taking this "other liar" ... I mean "guy" seriously ever again.
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This sums it up:
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Timelines are Realities in of themselves.
Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,
in the officially sponsored Marvel site.
http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm
ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616
are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities. (Timelines)
It makes perfect sense too,
how can the Future the Past and the Present
be all happening simultaneously within the same Space?
Wouldn't make sense would it?
That's because it's .... Impossible!
The Reality that occupies "the Present" is the 616 Universe,
The Realities that occupy "the Past" or "the Future" of the 616 Universe,
are core continuum designated Alternate Realities/Universes,
because the PAST ALREADY took place and because the FUTURE hasn't yet.
So, which leads us to this:
Originally posted by Mr MasterStarlin was referring to the entire Marvel Universe.
The entire Marvel Universe is everything in Marvel!
But there are parts of the story that clearly tells us that at the very least,
Thanos absorbed more:ie.
Thanos said "I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"
not hyperbole because artistically we see everything he became:................................................................................
Now, either Thanos was All Reality. (Marvel Omniverse)
Or Thanos was All withIN a single reality. (616)
Some have argued that statement means, the latter,
but there is proof that makes that impossible
and this is it:................................................................................
"I was an asteroid drifting in the void shortly after the Big Bang"
"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"
................................................................................
So Thanos was also encompassed the Past and the Future, OTHER UniverseS!
and as we know Mike, the Past and the Future (in Marvel)
are located in separate Universes outside of 616,
that's an undeniable fact.So,
Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.
This alone proves
Thanos is talking about the Marvel Omniverse, (or the entire Marvel Universe)
when he said OMNI-REALITY!
which is the same thing, ... as in "Everything"................................................................................
"I was Everything"
Ain't that the truth.
................................................................................
Then there's NO arguing that Omni-Reality refers to ALL Reality, (the Omniverse)
and it would be completely impossible for it to have meant just 616.
Originally posted by Mr MasterThat proves unequivocally that Thanos became the Marvel Omniverse,
but is there proof that he absorbed the entire Marvel Universe? (Omniverse)These are the Writer's own words:
Jim Starlin (Writer/Creator of "The End: Marvel")
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Jim Starlin interview: ... (towards the bottom)
http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382
"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"
"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing"
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Which is fully backed by the official Handbook bios of:
(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Eternity
"Thanos claimed the Power of THOTI,
Eternity opposed Thanos once more,
Thanos destroyed ALL of Reality"
................................................................................
2.
(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Living Tribunal
"Thanos destroyed ALL that Existed with his power ...
and then Restored Reality"................................................................................
3.
(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Infinity
"Thanos used THOTI to destroy All Reality"
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What is All Reality in Marvel?
..............................................................................
1. Omniverse
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
..............................................................................
thankyou
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Response by the other guy regarding Thanos and the HOTU:
quote:
Right off the bat, there's a LOT that's omitted by that guy. This is why I wholly prefer the post the entire page, not selected bits of sentences.
Either he's misreading, he's extremely biased in his interpretations of cosmic power, or is deliberately fooling the masses.
First off, MULTIPLE times in Marvel: The End, everything was stated to be relevant to the universe.
Not once did that guy acknowledge that, or even post a relevant page.
No, instead he focuses on the "all/omni reality" description and ignores the "universe" bits.
He even does the same with the Handbook entries, when applicable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Living Tribunal entry
". . . Thanos destroyed all that existed with his power, but subsequently had a change of heart and restored reality, ridding himself of his power; the re-created universe lacked the terminal flaw which Thanos sought to cure."
--All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity
"When Thanos used the Heart of the Infinite to destroy all reality, including Infinity, Warlock convinced him to recreate the universe and restore all abstracts.
--All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #5
As for "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality". . .
In Marvel: The End, Jim Starlin equated the terms "all reality" and "omni reality" with the universe. You can argue that it formally refers to the omniverse, but Jim Starlin made it the universe.
All this really do is highlight the comic inconsistencies of Marvel, especially with regards to its cosmology.
Even more omissions:
"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power. . ."
Left out:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power and the universe suffers for it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
The Warlock Family allows me to explore themes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to examine in other characters. Could you imagine Spider-Man killing himself to save the universe?
As for the "Marvel Universe", yes, we do use that term to address the entirety of Marvel Comics. . .
BUT, it can also be used to address mainstream Marvel Comics - the 616 universe. This is consistent with the average to even the most casual comic book reader; the multiverse concept is for involved/advanced readers.
Seriously, EM; read Marvel: The End yourself and form your own judgment. You'll find quite a bit that that guy omits. I know that you, EM, of all Battledomers, wouldn't want to operate on misinformation or distorted truths.
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That seemes right on the money 👆
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Originally posted by starlockThat seemes right on the money
Originally posted by the other guyEven more omissions:
"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power. . ."
Left out:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power and the universe suffers for it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlin
The Warlock Family allows me to explore themes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to examine in other characters. Could you imagine Spider-Man killing himself to save the universe?
As for the "Marvel Universe", yes,
we do use that term to address the entirety of Marvel Comics. . .BUT, it can also be used to address mainstream Marvel Comics - the 616 universe. This is consistent with the average to even the most casual comic book reader; the multiverse concept is for involved/advanced readers.
Seriously, EM; read Marvel: The End yourself and form your own judgment. You'll find quite a bit that that guy omits. I know that you, EM, of all Battledomers, wouldn't want to operate on misinformation or distorted truths.
Anyway, for the true debaters,
trolls can disregard, wouldn't make a difference to them anyway,
I invite yall
to go to Starlin's interview
and witness this Pinocchio literally adding text to the interview. (towards the middle)
http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382
Right on the money indeed ... ka-dur
btw. Mike, let's continue this over PMs,
I'm really not in the mood nowadays to deal with haters that hound me,
it's really my fault for surfing the forum while not logged on,
cause one's ignore list is in-affective while not logged on,
thus allowing perception of the usual poppycock from the usual suspects
that's not worth acknowledging.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Here's a snippet:#523 ... Cool issue.
Reed rules, he's done it all.
I don't think it's that one Master, It's the one where Doom uses the Cosmic Rod, the watchers orb and a Cosmic Cube to archive the power of Galactus. Doom then later battles and defeats Odin and the Asgardians with ease, I just cannot remember the number, however i'm sure you can.
Originally posted by UtrigitaI don't think it's that one Master, It's the one where Doom uses the Cosmic Rod, the watchers orb and a Cosmic Cube to archive the power of Galactus. Doom then later battles and defeats Odin and the Asgardians with ease, I just cannot remember the number, however i'm sure you can.
I just noticed six was asking about the Doom event.
Here's the correct snippet:
This is part of a twelve issue arc:
Fantastic Four - World's Greatest Comic Magazine - #1 -12
it seemed to me that thanos indeed absorbed the entirety of the multiverse. the conundrum at hand, at least the way i see it , is whether its truly canon or not, though i think that it cleary is. Starlin said it himself in the interview that he "Didn't know all the other stories were set in the future or alternative universes when I plotted my tale. Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe it ought to be the real thing ."
meaning that when:
Peter David was scripting Hulk: The End(2003)
Garth Ennis was scripting The Punisher: The End(2004)
Claremont was scripting X-Men: The End (04-06)
Jenkins was scripting Wolverine: The End (2003)
he was looking to make it is own baby as his last bang before his marvel contract expired
thats very significant becuase it's after the interviewer asked. what made you want to set it "now" using Marvel's current stable of heroes and villains?
PS.**even though all were published in different yrs they were all greenlit at roughly the same time..so when starlin was seeing about his contribution to the mythos he was looking to do his own thing, obviously and fully intent on making it an in continuity event. which it apparently is, which makes it quite unique among all the other "The Ends" which are nothing more than possible futures as they were lasting in thier respective spheres.
ie . hulk being the last living being on earth, kitty pride winning mayorship, wolverine bein an old guy who was the last living xman in a world that didnt need xmen anymore, the xmen completely obliterated in thier respective series, and frank castle being the last man on earth after he killed he rest of the survvors of WW3.
also it is quite obvious that the implications are that it was indeed 616, but to go even further thanos said it a bunch of times that he became one with all thats is , and multi eternity. All self explanatory if one has an IQ above amoeba 🙂 even if someone really doesnt want to accept it. thanos's foray is the only one that is mentioned at any other time in any other medium, bios, handbooks and so forth. plus of all of them it is the most straigt forward becuz like i said it wasnt lasting like the above mentioned.... he destroyed all that is and recreated it and relinquished the power its as simple as that.
and i think we all know by now(and im giving fellow posters alot of benefit of doubt) that other than certain cross overs, everything that Marvel as an entity publishes is canon any f ****ing way, albeit that they relegate it to an alternate universe, or possible future to avoid confusion and to make it easier for hard headed fan boys, but marvel: the end is a clearly a multiveral baby.... it was destroyed and recreated ABC, 123. all the objective evidence suggests that is truly canon, and Joe Q hasnt pulled a b**** move otherwise and said it wasnt so i'll go with that
Originally posted by Ize19Mr. Master may not always be right, but he certainly isn't dishonest.
Every time I've seen someone try to accuse him of lying,
whether by omission or otherwise, he's put them in their place.
The man definitely deserves some respect, and he has mine.
Originally posted by manjaroit seemed to me that thanos indeed absorbed the entirety of the multiverse. the conundrum at hand, at least the way i see it , is whether its truly canon or not, though i think that it cleary is. Starlin said it himself in the interview that he "Didn't know all the other stories were set in the future or alternative universes when I plotted my tale. Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe it ought to be the real thing ."
meaning that when:
Peter David was scripting Hulk: The End(2003)
Garth Ennis was scripting The Punisher: The End(2004)
Claremont was scripting X-Men: The End (04-06)
Jenkins was scripting Wolverine: The End (2003)
he was looking to make it is own baby as his last bang before his marvel contract expiredthats very significant becuase it's after the interviewer asked.
what made you want to set it "now"
using Marvel's current stable of heroes and villains?PS.**even though all were published in different yrs they were all greenlit at roughly the same time..so when starlin was seeing about his contribution to the mythos he was looking to do his own thing, obviously and fully intent on making it an in continuity event. which it apparently is, which makes it quite unique among all the other "The Ends" which are nothing more than possible futures as they were lasting in thier respective spheres.
ie . hulk being the last living being on earth, kitty pride winning mayorship, wolverine bein an old guy who was the last living xman in a world that didnt need xmen anymore, the xmen completely obliterated in thier respective series, and frank castle being the last man on earth after he killed he rest of the survvors of WW3.
also it is quite obvious that the implications are that it was indeed 616,
but to go even further thanos said it a bunch of times
that he became one with all thats is , and multi eternity.
All self explanatory if one has an IQ above amoeba 🙂
even if someone really doesnt want to accept it.
thanos's foray is the only one that is mentioned at any other time in any other medium, bios,
handbooks and so forth.
plus of all of them it is the most straigt forward
becuz like i said it wasnt lasting like the above mentioned....
he destroyed all that is
and recreated it and relinquished the power its as simple as that.and i think we all know by now
(and im giving fellow posters alot of benefit of doubt)
that other than certain cross overs,
everything that Marvel as an entity publishes is canon any f ****ing way,
albeit that they relegate it to an alternate universe,
or possible future to avoid confusion and to make it easier for hard headed fan boys,
but marvel: the end is a clearly a multiveral baby....
it was destroyed and recreated ABC, 123.
all the objective evidence suggests that is truly canon,
and Joe Q hasnt pulled a b**** move otherwise
and said it wasnt so i'll go with that
I also forgot
that while I have many factual
and legit reasons why it was the Omniverse that Thanos erased/re-created (All Reality)
Marvel has at-least officially stamped the infinite Prime Multiverse as the target:
(which by default would lead to the Omniverse anyway)
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This Bio site is Officially APPROVED by Marvel,
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Marvel even directs Official Handbook readers to it,
for extra information and even corrections can be found to Handbook Errors
(both of these pages are on the first 2 pages of every single Marvel Handbook 2006)
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Look at what I found! in the personal bio of THOTI!
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart
"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity,
the Living Tribunal etc ...
but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process"
"Thanos did so,
using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse
bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"
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Now, no bio source is perfect, Marvunapp or even Handbooks,
but this "seems right on the money," concerning your post manjaro.
*ahem my two cent on this*
I must admit that in the beginning I was very sceptical towards Thanos exact achievement in the HOTU serie, however I think it's very obvious that Thanos absorbed the Marvel mainstream Multiverse ore easily could have (showed when he defeated 616 Eternity which houses the entire force of the Multiverse), I then moved away from the single universal absorbing view, and went to atleast Multiversal, and I admitted I stayed with the Multiversal until I saw the interview with Jim Starlin, when that was presented (by Master) there was no doubt any longer that Thanos had absorbed what he could (space and time in marvel) because that is what Starlin says (we isn't disagreeing with the writers are we?), whether he are refering to the omniverse ore the prime Multiverse is from my point of view not important, what is important is that the author himself has stated that Thanos destroyed "all of marvel" then it's just up to use to decide what all of marvel is, as Starlin himself says if you are the average reader you believe it's the 616 reality but if you are a advanced reader, which I take all on this forum for being, Then you know that all of Marvel is at the very least the mainstream marvel multiverse (that is discounting all the showings of other multiverses that exist in marvel), However there have been a lot of discussion about whether ore not Marvel has a omniverse, I'm on the Wagon that says they does (Based on the on panel showings and Handbooks (that cannot always seem to agree)), thus I will conclude (from my own view on the omniverse discussion) that Thanos absorbed (destroyed) the omniverse (ore at the very least the mainstream multiverse) not a single reality.
