Comic Book Questions

Started by operator616575 pages

yeah, which happened ....25 years after that.

Im basing the celestials/phoenix ranking on a different universe because that's the best we got, as simple as that, if you have anything better to offer, then by all means, go ahead.

read the bio carefully, it said they kept an eye on him...beyonder/molecule man.....ALL OF WHOSE ACTIONS caused tremendous paper work. So yeah.

i can't prove that the bio refers to the alternate galactus but i already said more than once that this galactus diverges from 616, he's a future version, same thing, basically.
wait wait....hold the phone. let's look at the first time galactus was said to be a threat to the omniverse (which is avengers 296, i already posted the scan, and you're free to check the issue for yourself):

http://marvel.wikia.com/Avengers_Vol_1_296

1988.

Ouch, you should really do your research better 👆

yeah, i think we're done.

Originally posted by operator616
yeah, which happened ....25 years after that.

Im basing the celestials/phoenix ranking on a different universe because that's the best we got, as simple as that, if you have anything better to offer, then by all means, go ahead.

read the bio carefully, it said they kept an eye on him...beyonder/molecule man.....ALL OF WHOSE ACTIONS caused tremendous paper work. So yeah.

i can't prove that the bio refers to the alternate galactus but i already said more than once that this galactus diverges from 616, he's a future version, same thing, basically.
wait wait....hold the phone. let's look at the first time galactus was said to be a threat to the omniverse (which is avengers 296, i already posted the scan, and you're free to check the issue for yourself):

http://marvel.wikia.com/Avengers_Vol_1_296

1988.

Ouch, you should really do your research better 👆

yeah, i think we're done.

And Mutant X is set at least 10 years afterwards. And the Celestials creating a multiverse is 26 years afterwards. A bio from 2004 is set 15 years later.
You're jumping around timeframes, but it's not allowed to prove that Galactus > Celestials? Doesn't make sense. Maybe if I twisted statements from a bio 25 years later it'd be more factual?

I've already stated my proof. And it's not based on an unknown number of Celestials, and most importantly of all, Kubik to come to the conclusion.

So... 616 Galactus?
At this point, it doesn't matter though. Because even if that bio were referring to alternate Galactus, that doesn't prove a bio from 15 years earlier is comparing Kubik to a character who hasn't even appeared in comics at that time.

There's a lot of future versions of Galactus. In a more recent future, Galactus died a completely different way, and then got turned into a spaceship. Is that canon to 616? And seeing as that's the same thing judging by your logic, the timeline goes something like this...
Galactus erases his universe. Something happens and the universe comes back. Then Galactus gets killed by Earth and turned into an energy source. Same thing as 616 Galactus... ignoring the corpse of the alt Galactus.

So now your argument changes to it actually referring to a Galactus we didn't actually know was Galactus at the time (we wouldn't know until 2 years later), and the bio is referring to this Galactus said in a single page of an Avengers book?
I hope you can see the problem here. Your logic is that Kubik was being compared to character who was only known as a weapon at the time and not an actual character from a single page of a comic book, as opposed to the well known 616 Galactus. It's all so simple! If only I researched better!

And this makes sense to you?

lol at bios though. Serious business.

im not exactly proud of presenting mutant x, because i already said that it's the best proof we got how would phoenix fair against the celestials.
Characters change over the years, living tribunal is a perfect example of that.

sure it was a weapon back then but let us take a close look at avengers 296:

http://marvel.wikia.com/Avengers_Vol_1_296

editor in chief: Tom DeFalco

Editor: Mark Gruenwald

let's now look at OHOTMU v3 #4 (the one with kubik's bio):

http://marvel.wikia.com/Official_Handbook_of_the_Marvel_Universe_Vol_3_4

editor in chief: Tom DeFalco

Editor: Mark Gruenwald

yep, you should definitely do your research better.

And my actual intention was never that the bio is specifically pointing toward this alternate Galactus. My intention was that because it's basically a future version of 616 (which has been referenced in another bio, as simply Galactus) that would be taken into consideration. After all, kubik's bio was made by the same editor in chief and editor that wrote the avengers issue.

Does this make sense to me? sure does!

I got a comic book question:

Are you proud of the logic you just presented?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Nope

I don't think Sinister siphoning off power from Tiamut's head puts the power anywhere near any Celestial in power.

Sinister wasn't even using the power to power himself up. Only his weapons and the Madelyn's. Hell when he first got the Creation Engines up his main clone got one shotted by a sniper rifle.
Plus, the power wasn't even being fully used, and what was being used was being split up worse than the Phoenix Five were. Between being used for thousands of guns, instruments, the Madelyns (who blew up when the Force inside them made them), and was being used to make thousands of clones... and the main power source was still sitting there inside the machine.

Basically Sinister had enough power to make beings that could take out 1/5th of the Force (times 5) at a time while still not nearly tapping into all its power.

I can't imagine how that showing makes the Force look better than Celestials.


It wasn't really specified though exactly how much power he stole, just that it was getting burnt out. It may not have been at the level of an actual Celestial's power, which is why imo it's an insufficient way to gauge PFvsCelestials.

IIRC, the creation engines were also siphoning power from the Force, as the purpose was to sustain Sinister's species since the power he stole from Tiamut had been depleted.

Yeah, and all of these entities were later wiped out by the Force in a single go. As far as the Madelyn clones incapacitating the P5 goes, didn't it have something to do with their DNA being connected to Jean Grey's? Even if that was not the case, these same beings that could take out the P5 were quickly and rapidly wiped out by the Force once it awakened. Which tells me that the Force never provided those 5 with its true power, which is in line with Sinister's revelation that they were worthless hosts.

It doesn't make the P5 look good against Celestial-powered Sinister, but it's definitely a good showing for the PF itself.

Can someone please send me a PM when Peter is back in his own body? I can't stand this Superior sh*t.

^I'll forward your query to Sam.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It wasn't really specified though exactly how much power he stole, just that it was getting burnt out. It may not have been at the level of an actual Celestial's power, which is why imo it's an insufficient way to gauge PFvsCelestials.

IIRC, the creation engines were also siphoning power from the Force, as the purpose was to sustain Sinister's species since the power he stole from Tiamut had been depleted.

Yeah, and all of these entities were later wiped out by the Force in a single go. As far as the Madelyn clones incapacitating the P5 goes, didn't it have something to do with their DNA being connected to Jean Grey's? Even if that was not the case, these same beings that could take out the P5 were quickly and rapidly wiped out by the Force once it awakened. Which tells me that the Force never provided those 5 with its true power, which is in line with Sinister's revelation that they were worthless hosts.

It doesn't make the P5 look good against Celestial-powered Sinister, but it's definitely a good showing for the PF itself.

There's no way it was at a normal Celestial's power, especially when it's running dry.

Afterwards yes.

Because the Force made the clones blow up from the inside out. It controlled them and made them blow up with the power they had. It could have been the full force, it could have been a tiny portion, it doesn't matter when the Force controls the beings at the time and makes them kablooey.

Not saying it's a bad showing. Just doesn't look good for the Force vs Celestials.

Originally posted by Digi
Can someone please send me a PM when Peter is back in his own body? I can't stand this Superior sh*t.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=86959

Mind you Superior is running alongside these, so it's likely just a series of Flashback issues, or "for the moment" if you will.

Originally posted by Digi
Can someone please send me a PM when Peter is back in his own body? I can't stand this Superior sh*t.
It will be a minute. Apparently superior spiderman is liked by a lot of fans. Its gonna be a while even after peter comes back since it will mostly like deal with the fall out of ottos reign. It sucks because I liked where things were going around the spider island saga.

Heres a question . Is morning glories still not going anywhere?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=86959

Mind you Superior is running alongside these, so it's likely just a series of Flashback issues, or "for the moment" if you will.

Thanks. But I need Otto gone before I'll be sated.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
It will be a minute. Apparently superior spiderman is liked by a lot of fans. Its gonna be a while even after peter comes back since it will mostly like deal with the fall out of ottos reign. It sucks because I liked where things were going around the spider island saga.

Me too. Depressing news. But all the cool kids like the edgier, slightly more anti-hero thing Otto has going on. They're the same creeps that will say Peter is whiny and lacks spine when he returns. I want to punch every one of them in the face. Spider-Man should be free from these shenanigans.

When did Batman get a green lantern ring..was it during an event or something?

Originally posted by Kazenji
When did Batman get a green lantern ring..was it during an event or something?
Is this what you're looking for? Batman: In Darkest Knight

^ He also wielded a GL ring [in continuity] during Green Lantern v4 #9.

He only had it for like 4 pages, but still... sneer

Originally posted by Galan007
^ He also wielded a GL ring [in continuity] during Green Lantern v4 #9.

He only had it for like 4 pages, but still... sneer

We already have a Weekend Marwash in Iceman. Do you wanna be Weekend Gecko? osheet

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Sweet smilie. 👆

question: curently Ironman employies 2 suits a gold black and a red one.
Does anyone know if there are any significant power differences between them?

Originally posted by Digi
Thanks. But I need Otto gone before I'll be sated.

Me too. Depressing news. But all the cool kids like the edgier, slightly more anti-hero thing Otto has going on. They're the same creeps that will say Peter is whiny and lacks spine when he returns. I want to punch every one of them in the face. Spider-Man should be free from these shenanigans.

You Peterphiles need to just live with how awesome Ock is IMO.