Originally posted by Draco69
He can't. For the last time. He can't. The power of Zeus merely provides him lightening attacks AND transforms him into Captain Marvel.
Explain the pic.......http://flarenova.com/shazam/temp/wf254_power3.jpg
Pre-Crisi or not, its stated.
Originally posted by Draco69
Wrong again. Hermes is the god of speed. Guess what happened to Flash. Hermes STOLE his speed. And Diana already beat Hermes. TWICE. In the same goddamn issue as the above.
Flash getting his speed stolen = BS
WW is stupposed to have the speed of Hermes, but beat him = BS
Wonder Woman #41. What Vol?
Originally posted by Draco69
I read. You can't. Two words: PRE-CRISIS.
DC Encyclopedia is Pre-Crisis too ehh?
But you said you dont have the book. So get it then come back.
Edited.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I think WW has speed greater than Mercury, or something like that.
Ive heard from pepole that Hermes is faster than Mercury, but others have stated that in a actual, comic it just stated that the Gods were separated and used the others as Avatars, BUT were not weaker.
If hermes is faster than mercury, and Hermes beat flash by stealing his speed, how the hell did WW beat hermes if shes supposed to have hios speed?
I smell loophole and BS. And it dont smell to good. 😘
Originally posted by jrodslam
Explain the pic.......http://flarenova.com/shazam/temp/wf254_power3.jpg
I already did. PRE-CRISIS. This pic was from the 1972 DC/Fawcett SHAZAM! comic. However it was placed on Earth S
Originally posted by jrodslam
Flash getting his speed stolen = BS
He IS the god of speed. A god vs. a mortal. Guess who won?
Originally posted by jrodslam
WW is stupposed to have the speed of Hermes, but beat him = BS
Wrong. WW is FASTER than Hermes. Stronger than Hercules and faster than Hermes. You're referring to Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman
Originally posted by jrodslam
Wonder Woman #41. What Vol?
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Originally posted by jrodslam
DC Encyclopedia is Pre-Crisis too ehh?
Maybe. I don't have the book. I suppose you either read it wrong or the book is wrong. The line between Pre and Post is very hard to distinguish. DC's own goddamn writers don't get right from time to time.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ive heard from pepole that Hermes is faster than Mercury, but others have stated that in a actual, comic it just stated that the Gods were separated and used the others as Avatars, BUT were not weaker.
The Gods created the Avatars. OF COURSE they're weaker. The avatars were supposed to do the sh** on the mortal plane the Greek Pantheon didn't want to. Which is how Circe easily swayed the Romans against the Greeks.
Originally posted by jrodslam
If hermes is faster than mercury, and Hermes beat flash by stealing his speed, how the hell did WW beat hermes if shes supposed to have hios speed?I smell loophole and BS. And it dont smell to good. 😘
Um. HARDLY. Hermes IS faster than Mercury. However he absorbed Flash's powers to help defeat Circe and travel to the Godwave in another dimension. Unfortunately under his own power he couldn't. Soooooo he absorbed the powers of someone who was faster than even himself: the Flash
WW did beat Hermes. Twice. Guess what? It wasn't when Hermes had Flash's powers during the War of the Gods. OBVIOUSLY. Hermes died at the end and Flash got his powers back.
WW beat Hermes BEFORE the War of the Gods.
Originally posted by Draco69
He IS the god of speed. A god vs. a mortal. Guess who won?[/QUOTE}Flash's speed comes from a whole different source intirely, but hey. Still sounds like BS to me.
[QUOTE=4114750]Originally posted by Draco69
Wrong. WW is FASTER than Hermes. Stronger than Hercules and faster than Hermes. You're referring to Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman.
Am I? I thought se was supposed to be AS fast as Hermes. Im referring to the DC Encyclopedia. Though it does say shes stronger than Heracles.
Originally posted by Draco69
Maybe. I don't have the book. I suppose you either read it wrong or the book is wrong. The line between Pre and Post is very hard to distinguish. DC's own goddamn writers don't get right from time to time.
DC Encyclopedia -
Captain Marvel - "Withut a doubt Captain Marvel is the worlds mightiesnt mortal, with strength and powers on par with Superman."
Martian Manhunter - "His spirituality led many to consider him the League's heart and soul, while his vast array of powers put him in a physical class that even exceeded Superman's."
Wonder Woman - "Blessed with the gift of the Olympian Gods, Wonder Woman is one of the strongest beings on the planet."
No mention of Supes there.
You suppose I read wrong, DC is wrong and youre right? Nuff said.
Originally posted by Draco69
The Gods created the Avatars. OF COURSE they're weaker. The avatars were supposed to do the sh** on the mortal plane the Greek Pantheon didn't want to. Which is how Circe easily swayed the Romans against the Greeks.
It was never stated that the Avatars were weaker. Assumptions.
Originally posted by Draco69
WW beat Hermes BEFORE the War of the Gods.
ITs been stated that he has his(Hermes) speed. How did she beat him? More loopholes?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Am I? I thought se was supposed to be AS fast as Hermes. Im referring to the DC Encyclopedia. Though it does say shes stronger than Heracles.
No. Many people get this wrong, so don't feel bad. Think about it. If WW beat Hermes in a race TWICE. Obviously she's faster. Ever heard the phrase:
"Strength of Gaea greater than that of Hercules.
Wiser than the Great Pallas Athena
More beautiful than Aphrodite
Swifter than Hermes."
Originally posted by jrodslam
[B] Captain Marvel - "Withut a doubt Captain Marvel is the worlds mightiesnt mortal, with strength and powers on par with Superman."
So. On par? So is Wonder Woman. And Martian Manhunter.
Originally posted by jrodslam
[B] Martian Manhunter - "His spirituality led many to consider him the League's heart and soul, while his vast array of powers put him in a physical class that even exceeded Superman's."
The first part is right. The second part wrong.
Originally posted by jrodslam
[B] Wonder Woman - "Blessed with the gift of the Olympian Gods, Wonder Woman is one of the strongest beings on the planet.No mention of Supes there."
Again: So? Is this ALL you got? A brief profile. Sad.
Originally posted by jrodslam
[B] You suppose I read wrong, DC is wrong and youre right? Nuff said.
No. I think you are wrong period. Face the facts. I proven that Wonder Woman is stronger AND faster than Captain Marvel. However Captain Marvel is more durable. That is a given.
You've been reduced to quoting a encyclopedia. You say the same thing "DC is wrong and you're right" like a mantra. No facts. Nullified evidence. And no rebuttals to references concerning Wonder Woman.
Dude ya lost. I appreciate the effort but I've proven my arguement. Your arguement is based on brief and vague textorials from a DC encyclopedia that is not even written by DC itself. It's written by Phil Jimenez. A homosexual artist with a brief flair for writing. Encyclopedias are often inaccurate. So is yours. I've proven this.
Try again if ya want.
Originally posted by jrodslam
It was never stated that the Avatars were weaker. Assumptions.
Yes. It was. Circe boosted their power from the Godwave to make them on par or even in some cases exceed their creators. Did you even read the goddamn story? If the avatars were as strong then they would have already rebelled. Circe turned the tide.
Originally posted by jrodslam
ITs been stated that he has his(Hermes) speed. How did she beat him? More loopholes?
Loopholes. The f**k are you talking about? WW is FASTER than Hermes.
Originally posted by Draco69
No. Many people get this wrong, so don't feel bad. Think about it. If WW beat Hermes in a race TWICE. Obviously she's faster. Ever heard the phrase:"Strength of Gaea greater than that of Hercules.
Wiser than the Great Pallas Athena
More beautiful than Aphrodite
Swifter than Hermes."
Ohh I dont feel bad at all. But I think your phrase is wrong. Not sure where you got it from. My source here on my lap says and I quote...
"Wise AS Athena, stronger that Heracles, swift AS Hermes, and beautiful AS Aphrodite." - DC Encyclopedia.
Originally posted by Draco69
The first part is right. The second part wrong.
Geez. I guess you know more than DC when it comes to all characters huh? Lol.
Originally posted by Draco69
Again: So? Is this ALL you got? A brief profile. Sad.
Hardly a brief profile. I only posted what was said in terms of strength. Sad that you dont have the book sir.
Originally posted by Draco69
No. I think you are wrong period. Face the facts. I proven that Wonder Woman is stronger AND faster than Captain Marvel. However Captain Marvel is more durable. That is a given.[/Q]
You think im wrong, but I get my sources from DC themselves. Youve shown nothing to back your so calld "proof". Youve proven NOTHING. Just like how you proved CM cant combine powers ehh?
Originally posted by Draco69
[B]You've been reduced to quoting a encyclopedia. You say the same thing "DC is wrong and you're right" like a mantra. No facts. Nullified evidence. And no rebuttals to references concerning Wonder Woman.
You sence youre loosing this one. But youve already lost. Yes I quote the DC ENCYCLOPEDIA. Yes I quote Superman, and CM themselves with scans. I get my information from the horses mouth. Whats the best you could come up with?..."PRE-CRISIS, Blah blah."
Originally posted by Draco69
Dude ya lost. I appreciate the effort but I've proven my arguement. Your arguement is based on brief and vague textorials from a DC encyclopedia that is not even written by DC itself. It's written by Phil Jimenez. A homosexual artist with a brief flair for writing. Encyclopedias are often inaccurate. So is yours. I've proven this.
Phil Jimenez, Robert Greenberger, Scott Beaty, and Dan Wallace to be exact. I have the book to back my theorys. Ive posted scans to back my theorys. What have you posted saying WW was faster and or stronger than CM? NOTHING! Post a scan or something please. Then you counter by calling 1 of the authors of the book a homosexual like thats why he says what he does in the book. Are the 3 other authors gay as well? Bah.
Very mature(not). Thats a real sign of age. And wheres your cheerleaders to back you? I dont hear from them much.
I more of the good guys. 💃
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ohh I dont feel bad at all. But I think your phrase is wrong. Not sure where you got it from. My source here on my lap says and I quote..."Wise AS Athena, stronger that Heracles, swift AS Hermes, and beautiful AS Aphrodite." - DC Encyclopedia.
Strange. My source (on the couch), The Ultimate Guide to Wonder Woman says otherwise.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Geez. I guess you know more than DC when it comes to all characters huh? Lol.
Some. Much more than you obviously. 😂
Originally posted by jrodslam
Hardly a brief profile. I only posted what was said in terms of strength. Sad that you dont have the book sir.
Keeping gripping on to that book like a lifejacket during a tumultous hurricane if you want. It doesn't prove anything. As you haven't proven anything.
And I'm guessing that same book says he's faster than light and more powerful than Surfer right? Riiiiiiight.
Originally posted by jrodslam
you think im wrong, but I get my sources from DC themselves. Youve shown nothing to back your so calld "proof". Youve proven NOTHING. Just like how you proved CM cant combine powers ehh?
You get your sources from a friggin inaccurate encyclopedia. I on the other hand get my sources from comics. Something you have never heard of.
Pre-Crisis could. Post could not and will not. They changed his powers. Just like Supes and WW. You cannot prove that CM CAN combine his powers can you? You posted outdated pics from Pre-Crisis. Which was nullified.
I've proven my arguements. You haven't. Your only remaining piece of evidence is an inaccurate enyclopedia. Pics? Disproven. CM's power levels? Disproven and corrected. CM's speed? Disproven and corrected. CM's strength? Disproven and corrected. Stamina of Atlas? Disproven and corrected. Power of Zeus? Disproven and corrected.
I've bested you in every debate concerning CM thus far. You've conceded on many of my arguements already. Particularly CM's speed.
Originally posted by jrodslam
You sence youre loosing this one. But youve already lost. Yes I quote the DC ENCYCLOPEDIA. Yes I quote Superman, and CM themselves with scans. I get my information from the horses mouth. Whats the best you could come up with?..."PRE-CRISIS, Blah blah."
You're delusional. Obviously. I haven't lost anything. Your evidence is dead and gone.
Scans? Pre-Crisis my man. I know you don't like it but it's true.
Quotes? Pre-Crisis and not solid evidence. You don't have anything else.
What's the best I can come up with?:
History of CM and WW.
Their power levels.
Comic book sources.
Actual comical events.
What's the best you can come up with:
Superman said so.
Encyclopedia said so
"You know more than DC then"
Please. Your arguement is nullified. You skip around the issues. You attempt (horribly at that) to poke holes until I throw them back at you and you avoid the same said topic.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Phil Jimenez, Robert Greenberger, Scott Beaty, and Dan Wallace to be exact.
So I got the authorship wrong...who gives a f***? You think it helps your arguement? You're sadly mistaken.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I have the book to back my theorys.
I have comics to back my theorys.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ive posted scans to back my theorys.
Your scans are nullified. It's Pre-Crisis. In other words: WRONG.
Originally posted by jrodslam
What have you posted saying WW was faster and or stronger than CM? NOTHING!
Are you blind? Seriously are you? Stop avoiding the facts I've presented. You didn't retort them. Hell you quoted them then you SKIPPED them. Please. You don't have any sound evidence.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Post a scan or something please.
Don't got a scanner. You're outta luck. You gonna have to rely on the mountain of evidence regarding Wonder Woman...which you seemly don't rebut or don't even acknowledge.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Then you counter by calling 1 of the authors of the book a homosexual like thats why he says what he does in the book. Are the 3 other authors gay as well? Bah.
Counter? Please. That was just comment. Your counters have been the same for the last hour:
The book said so.
Superman said so.
You don't know more than DC.
Actually yes. One other author is gay. But that's irrelevant. This is just fluff to pathetically bolster your dying and dead arguement.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Very mature(not). Thats a real sign of age.
I'm not mature as I'd like to be. However I'm arguing with a person who won't properly debate or just avoids the issue at hand. That's more pathetically immature.
Originally posted by jrodslam
And wheres your cheerleaders to back you? I dont hear from them much.
Cosmic Cube. Digimark007. Manjaro. Darkcrawler.
Better question: Where's your "cheerleaders"? Oh. I forgot. You don't have any. Nobody's supporting your arguement. They all know you're wrong.
After all who can support a person who believes that CM is faster than light and is more powerful than Silver Surfer. Not a sane one for sure.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I more of the good guys.
No idea what that means. But is just a self-served ego boost nonetheless.
I am no expert on the Gods and sh!t but from reading the comics Captain Marvel is atleast on part with Supreman in terms of strength.
I have read a few issues where they fought and there was no clear cut winner at all. That speaks for itself.
Then there is the arm wrestling match that was a stalemate also.
Till I read Superman say that WW is as strong or stonger than him Ill believe it for he has said that about CM. Or even hold her own agaisnt him in a arm wrestling match then Ill agree with it.
Not disrepecting WW but just going by facts that I read in CM comics.(I dont read WW)
Originally posted by Draco69
Strange. My source (on the couch), The Ultimate Guide to Wonder Woman says otherwise.
Ohh well. then who knows? He say she say.
Originally posted by Draco69
Some. Much more than you obviously. 😂
Yea I can see that.(not). Ultimate Guide to WW says shes stronger than CM? I say shes AS wise as Athena, AS swift as Hermes. etc. You say otherwise.
Originally posted by Draco69
Keeping gripping on to that book like a lifejacket during a tumultous hurricane if you want. It doesn't prove anything. As you haven't proven anything.
Funny. Seems as if ive proven more than you have. Go Figure.
Originally posted by Draco69
And I'm guessing that same book says he's faster than light and more powerful than Surfer right? Riiiiiiight.[/Q]
Ive already made a statement on the faster than lightning feat. Ive NEVER stated he was more powerful than Surfer. Obviously you cant read. Dont put words in my mouth.
Originally posted by Draco69
[B]You get your sources from a friggin inaccurate encyclopedia. I on the other hand get my sources from comics. Something you have never heard of.
My encyclopedia is inacurate, but your WW GUide is? I see.
Originally posted by Draco69
You cannot prove that CM CAN combine his powers can you?
Can you prove he cant? Show me otherwise.
Originally posted by Draco69
I've proven my arguements.
Proven what? How so?
Originally posted by Draco69
Your only remaining piece of evidence is an inaccurate enyclopedia.
And Yours is a 5 year old WW Guide?
Originally posted by Draco69
Pics? Disproven. CM's power levels? Disproven and corrected. CM's speed? Disproven and corrected. CM's strength? Disproven and corrected. Stamina of Atlas? Disproven and corrected. Power of Zeus? Disproven and corrected.
All were proven with the exception of speed. Your counter to that was "Bla bla Pre-Crisis" "He cant do it anymore. Blah blah" Can you prove he cant? Until then, I say he can do it.
Originally posted by Draco69
I've bested you in every debate concerning CM thus far.
Hardly.
Originally posted by Draco69
Scans? Pre-Crisis my man. I know you don't like it but it's true.
Lol. Here we go again. Blah blah. How do you know he cant do it?
Originally posted by Draco69
Quotes? Pre-Crisis and not solid evidence. You don't have anything else.
Quotes, pre-crisis, encyclopedia are solid enough evidence.
Do you have any evidence at all? "WW is stronger than Hercules" "CM's combination of powers are pre-crisis, he cant do it anymore blah blah"
Prove it. Until then, call it a day.
