Mother of Slain Soldier Delivers Powerful Speech Against Bush

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
First off, who's to say that the information that started the Iraq war was false. Just because they didn't find WMD in Iraq doesn't mean that they are not there. A nuke is only 14 ft long and I'm sure that it couldn't be that hard to hide in the middle of the desert. But at the same time if we had let Saddam continue his regime more people could have died. Saddam tortured his own people, so this war is not for nothing. Think about the women over there who were treated as 3rd class citizens and the men who were forced to join the military. It's not all about WMD. Also Clinton was not one of the greatest presidents. He was good and that's it. Bush is a better Prez.

Have you heard of the Downing Street Memo?

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
First off, who's to say that the information that started the Iraq war was false. Just because they didn't find WMD in Iraq doesn't mean that they are not there. A nuke is only 14 ft long and I'm sure that it couldn't be that hard to hide in the middle of the desert. But at the same time if we had let Saddam continue his regime more people could have died. Saddam tortured his own people, so this war is not for nothing. Think about the women over there who were treated as 3rd class citizens and the men who were forced to join the military. It's not all about WMD. Also Clinton was not one of the greatest presidents. He was good and that's it. Bush is a better Prez.

saddam killed iraqis...now we kill iraqis

saddam had his people tortured...now we have his people tortured

i guess its all ok, so long as america is behind the killing and torture, right?

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
First off, who's to say that the information that started the Iraq war was false.

Multiple nations intelligence agencies (including the U.S.). And may I refer you to the downing street memo.

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
But at the same time if we had let Saddam continue his regime more people could have died. Saddam tortured his own people, so this war is not for nothing. Think about the women over there who were treated as 3rd class citizens and the men who were forced to join the military.

Actually more people are dying per year in Iraq since Saddam was ousted, and a large portion of them have been civilians.

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
It's not all about WMD.

No it was also about terrorism, but then there was no relationship there either.

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
Also Clinton was not one of the greatest presidents. He was good and that's it. Bush is a better Prez.

Yes, your deficit is sky high, your economy is messed, you have had bills like the Patriot act passed, your social security is now in dispute, the reputaion and popularity of the United States is at an all time low, you are involved in a war that was begun under false pretenses and the incidences of global terrorism are hifher than when Clinton was ever in office. Yes, Bush is doing a bang up job.

Originally posted by Lana
Have you heard of the Downing Street Memo?

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/

20$ says he never clicks that link and refuses to even acknowledge it.

you in?

Fool's bet, people will never want to hear anything that goes against what they believe.

Besides, I've only got $10 😛

10$ ??? your on

*grabs lana's hand and shakes it before she has a chance to pull it away*

😛

Hey!!!

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BTW, the line in your sig cracks me up......😆

I've read that before.
We don't kill Iraqis we kill insurgents. There is a difference. Most Iraqis will tell you that they are happier now than when Saddam was in power. It's true that Iraq might not have been the biggest threat, but it was a threat no less. Freeing the people of Iraq was worth it to me, but I can tell that you guys care not about the rest of the world.

1) The insurgents ARE Iraqis.
2) What about all the civilian deaths?
3) How would YOU know what most Iraqis say or think?
4) Iraq presented no threat to the US. Who says that Bush has the right to go poking in the problems of another country? We have enough problems here at home that need to be taken care of.

give it up lana.
he's lost in a sea of horseshit

*sighs*

I know....I hate giving up though. I'm so damn stubborn.

Originally posted by PVS
give it up lana.
he's lost in a sea of horseshit

In a cow-chip canoe without a paddle in sight.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
In a cow-chip canoe without a paddle in sight.

oh did i laugh out loud when i read that! 😂

Originally posted by KharmaDog
In a cow-chip canoe without a paddle in sight.

Oh....man....that just cracked me up 😆

1)Yes it's true that insurgents are Iraqis, but they can't ne included in the Iraqi civilian population. Insurgetns kill other Iraqis.
2) Most civilian deaths are caused my insurgents
3) I went ot Iraq last summer for a documentary class and I interviewed hundreds of people
4) Iraq was a threat it says so in your "treasured" downing street memo
5) You guys are full of horseshit and keep contradicting yourselves

bullshit and horseshit
horseshit is a fallacy which one who speaks it believes.
bullshit is a fallacy which one who speaks it, knows its a lie.

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
1)Yes it's true that insurgents are Iraqis, but they can't ne included in the Iraqi civilian population. Insurgetns kill other Iraqis.

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
[B]2) Most civilian deaths are caused my insurgents

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
3) I went ot Iraq last summer for a documentary class and I interviewed hundreds of people

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
4) Iraq was a threat it says so in your "treasured" downing street memo

Yeah, What PVS said. ✅

Originally posted by PVS
well, i dont feel like having any more f***ing warnings while he is allowed to make a career out of baiting. so i put him on ignore. either that or i can just call him what he is and then i get banned. get it? good 🙂

No I read it. And you claim to know all about how the Iraqi people are doing. But how do you know have you been there? No, everything you know is from CNN or some lunatic on the web. Go back to your stable horseboy.

Originally posted by ShotgunWes
No I read it. And you claim to know all about how the Iraqi people are doing. But how do you know have you been there? No, everything you know is from CNN or some lunatic on the web. Go back to your stable horseboy.