i would like to get more info on this and I will ask on of my youth pastors at church to see if this is true or not or maybe explain some scriptures that would make it to the point. When I read this stuff the person was a Christian and he used powerful scriptural words that are hard to contradict. I just need more background and more opinions on this subject.
Originally posted by cking
you are again trying to explain things are unexplainable. I can't explain this and neither can you, we don't have the right to.
Yes we have the right to...
I beieve there is no hell otherwise god would also be there as it says in Psalms somewhere when David said there is no place where god is not.
There is also a scripture that says in the NT that the spirit goes back to god from where it came..Sorry don't have a concordence right now.
We are made in the image of god, that does not mean physically like a body. God does not have a body. We are created like god in spirit form..We are apart of who He/It is.
Originally posted by cking
we are different from god in every way. God says in the old testament that he doesn't think like us act or do the evil things we do. we aren't part of god's body part or anything like that. God and the creation are totally different even the bible says so about this. God created man in his image in but not in a way man is totally all knowing. Adam and eve were perfect but they didn't know everything because god is still their teacher. a spirit can be killed, look what happened to Satan he is a spirit and he is dead. God is a god of living not of the dead and if a person is separated from god they are spiritual dead. You try to explain things that no man can explain and I can explain these things but only god can explain these. We shouldn't worry about this because this is out of our league.
This is typical.If a non-Christian brings up something in the Old Testiment,Christians say it's the Old Testiment and don't except it as cannon.However,Christians will use the Old Testiment to their liking and see nothing wrong with it.
Re: If there isnt a Hell...
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Well, recently I have seen a lot of posts from intellighent, well-informed people saying there is no Hell and it was an idea created by the church, etc. So Im wondering- If there is no Hell, where do you go after death if you dont make it into heaven?
If you have a fear of passing on, do not realise you're dead, or feel guilty about your death, or have unfinished buissness then you come back as a ghost.
Then it's reincarnation when you fully pass on.
Re: If there isnt a Hell...
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Well, recently I have seen a lot of posts from intellighent, well-informed people saying there is no Hell and it was an idea created by the church, etc. So Im wondering- If there is no Hell, where do you go after death if you dont make it into heaven?
Hell is very real. Jesus talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven. There are more people going to Hell than to Heavn. I now turn to the words of Christ Jesus Himself:
Matthew 7:13
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
Re: Re: If there isnt a Hell...
Originally posted by JesusIsAlivehttp://www.av1611.org/hell.html (The Truth About Hell)
Hell is very real. Jesus talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven. There are more people going to Hell than to Heaven. I now turn to the words of Christ Jesus Himself:
[b]Matthew 7:13
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
Originally posted by mr.smiley
This is typical.If a non-Christian brings up something in the Old Testiment,Christians say it's the Old Testiment and don't except it as cannon.However,Christians will use the Old Testiment to their liking and see nothing wrong with it.
Re: If there isnt a Hell...
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Well, recently I have seen a lot of posts from intellighent, well-informed people saying there is no Hell and it was an idea created by the church, etc. So Im wondering- If there is no Hell, where do you go after death if you dont make it into heaven?
Hell is the destination of those who do not go to Heaven.
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html (The Truth About Hell)
Hell is very real. Jesus talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven. There are more people going to Hell than to Heaven. I now turn to the words of Christ Jesus Himself:
[b]Matthew 7:13
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
Re: If there isnt a Hell...
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Well, recently I have seen a lot of posts from intellighent, well-informed people saying there is no Hell and it was an idea created by the church, etc. So Im wondering- If there is no Hell, where do you go after death if you dont make it into heaven?
There is no heaven outside of this life.
When you die, you return to where you came from before your were born.
Actually
The Jews of biblical times did not have a concept of heaven, hell, and afterlife as we do nowadays, which is why it is not spoken of in the Old Testament. They believed that if they were bad, God would punish their children. their children's children, and the entire Jewish nation if necessary.
Originally posted by joeykangaroo
i dont believe in hell...if god loved each 1 of us why would he put people through hell ..no matter what they had done?
God does love everyone (every race, ethnic group, tribe, people, and nationality) that is why He sent His only, begotten Son Jesus Christ to die for the sins of the world on the cross so that we could be saved from our sins. The wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord. Now, no one has to go to Hell when they die (if they do not want to), but the way out as it were is only through Jesus Christ. If you want to go to Heaven when you die simply confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that God has raised Jesus from the dead and you will be saved. Turn away from your sins (or repent from them) and follow Christ Jesus with all of your heart. Rejoice, for if you have done these things with all of your heart you are Heaven-bound!
Happy Holidays,
JesusIsAlive
paradise and hell .. be sure that is right .
first ... I want to say welcome to you ... 🙂
and then i want to answer 😄 ... just as we know that when somebody write about anything .. His or her beliefs and principles, and religion talk about his / her viewpoint . and we need to deal with it by recpect . we are friends .
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as return to my tenet as Muslim inevitably there is HELL and also paradise .. We strongly believe that God promised us to give us paradise if we did the good deeds in this life such as , ( the five prayers , Fasting ,alzkah , hajj and also many good things with good ethics ) ..
and The Paradise is a large reward from God for those who believe in it only. But even if they do not believe in the one God .God also created fire for those who do not believe in it . and The agony of fire is very large and very dangerous . Only imagine that if you Can bear the fire now .. of course you will say i cant bear that, so how you can bear the most strong fire in the Doomsday.. i mean After you die there agony called the agony of grave . and this a gony for muslims and non muslims too .. but the diffreant that when the muslims see this a gony and feel in it .. god make that good for them ..i mean that increase our deeds and also that help us to enter to paradise . but for non belivers.. they just Suffer in the grave, and followed suffer by the fire . and this is the end .. for who believe in one god he will if god want that entar to paradise and the paradise is very very beautiful you can not imagine paradise never . Because it is a big surprise from God for Muslims . Nevertheless, God have infinite mercy for everybody.. he know exactly that the human is very weak and he follows what he loves.
all that from what i believe in .. and i wont to make you Afraid .. but I swear that this is the right .
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afterlife mean >> Is life after the die and go to the grave .. From here you begin another life again.. human passes through it to many various stages .. first stage is the agony of grave.. first stage is the agony of grave..Which depend on your work -deeds- in this world .. After ending stage of grave .. God sends all the people from e graves again . to judged about their deeds in this life . Then either to hell or heaven. that is all . i hope all we go to paradise .
best ...
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