Re: paradise and hell .. be sure that is right .
Originally posted by silver heart
first ... I want to say welcome to you ... 🙂and then i want to answer 😄 ... just as we know that when somebody write about anything .. His or her beliefs and principles, and religion talk about his / her viewpoint . and we need to deal with it by recpect . we are friends .
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Awww . . . . thanks for the welcome 💃 .
But as an atheist, i need something more substantial than religious dogma.
WELCOM ..
But as an atheist, i need something more substantial than religious dogma. 🙄
Welcome back .. again ..
First of all .. because aim Muslim that make me sure about hell and paradise .. And religion is something that takes more than any thing . yes, may be, It is easy to deal with the Jews and Christians because they believe something like Muslims. But in someway it is difficult to deal with atheist . But no problem... I will try with you, and I hope that others will benefit from the dialogue.. I do not want you (Templares) to believe in what i will say now.. but just please read, and think in true way . Why God created mind and heart for us ? . Certainly to think and think and for ask ..until you find the truth..
The truth that you want to know .is God exists .. and if he exists .. where is he and why i can not see him ? and many questions . But once again I want to remind my good friends all in this Forum Whether theyare Muslims, Christians or Jews.. we should deal with other by respect Especially in things related to religion.
Each and every one is talking about religion and morality. just i want from all read and think and respect .
Templares You are atheist so I will try with you. to tell you many things clearly. But please we wOnt war in this good forum just Each one expresses them standpoint And I will came again to writer about that but now I am very busy .. i have final exams . wish me luck ..
Thank you for all and I wish good day for all 🙂
BEST
SILVER HEART
Re: Re: Re: paradise and hell .. be sure that is right .
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
seriously shut upI'd rather not have stupid athiests posting against intelligent theists
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Welcome back .. again ..
First of all .. because aim Muslim that make me sure about hell and paradise .. And religion is something that takes more than any thing . yes, may be, It is easy to deal with the Jews and Christians because they believe something like Muslims. But in someway it is difficult to deal with atheist . But no problem... I will try with you, and I hope that others will benefit from the dialogue.. I do not want you (Templares) to believe in what i will say now.. but just please read, and think in true way . Why God created mind and heart for us ? . Certainly to think and think and for ask ..until you find the truth..*snip*
OOoohkay (Good luck to your exams ).
So is there anybody else who could enlighten yours truly as to what is is this "afterlife " is all about . . . . without resorting to (faith-dependent) religious dogma?
Re: Re: Re: Re: paradise and hell .. be sure that is right .
Originally posted by Templares
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your post was completely irrelivent to the conversation and you were unnessesarily rude to a person trying to be polite
as for afterlife w/o "faith dependent religious dogma" well the name kind of sums it up it what happens to you AFTER your LIFE ends
in a more realistic sense w/o religion there is no afterlife to discuss
Originally posted by silver heart
dear debbiejo, the paradise and hell are an inevitable fact for all people .. and not as the Venue fictitious as what you said before ..and i will teel you why .. but not now 😉just give me time until I finish the final exams .. 🙂
good luck
You know that's not true, no one can tell us that factually. But I am happy that you believe that they are. Well, at least happy about 50%. The hell business is a bunch of bullshit even if it exists.
Re: hey ..
Originally posted by silver heart
dear debbiejo, the paradise and hell are an inevitable fact for all people .. and not as the Venue fictitious as what you said before ..and i will teel you why .. but not now 😉just give me time until I finish the final exams .. 🙂
good luck
The concepts of Heaven and Hell are fiction...they have existed long before the religions of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. They have existed in ancient religions such as Greek Mythology and Egpytian mythology as well.
Therefore, Heaven and Hell are PAGAN in nature, and therefore you beleive in a PAGAN concept, like much of your religion consists of.
If you look into REALITY, at least look at nature and human society, morality is a SPECTRUM and so is this life.
Good and Evil are NOT absolutes, morality and life does not exist in absolutes, but Heaven and Hell are concepts of absolutivity. There is a spectrum of events, favorable and unfavorable. In nature, good and evil do not EXIST....they are what WE as human beings project onto our world.
Judgement is ALSO simply a human construct, as is justice. Justice does NOT exist in the realm of animals, or in nature, things HAPPEN and we move on.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Good and Evil are NOT absolutes, morality and life does not exist in absolutes, but Heaven and Hell are concepts of absolutivity. There is a spectrum of events, favorable and unfavorable. In [b]nature, good and evil do not EXIST....they are what WE as human beings project onto our world.
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you're not really Urizen are you?
Re: Re: hey ..
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
The concepts of Heaven and Hell are fiction...they have existed long before the religions of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. They have existed in ancient religions such as Greek Mythology and Egpytian mythology as well.Therefore, Heaven and Hell are [b]PAGAN
in nature, and therefore you beleive in a PAGAN concept, like much of your religion [/B]