Is KOTOR better than ROTS?

Ok, why is KOTOR better?

1. It takes about 17 hours to complete if you already know where to go but still want to do most of the side quests. ROTS is only 2 and a half hours.

2. You control the characters, storyline, and what happens in KOTOR. You influence it, your characters, your characters' strengths and weaknesses, even what Revan looks like. In ROTS you simply have to watch someone else's vision, which will usually lead to a few disappointments to people.

3. It's much more fun to control what happens, light or dark, who you fight, and actually fighting knowing just how powerful you are and constantly growing stronger with each enemy you kill rather than watching someone fight, staying at the same strength throughout the whole movie.

4. KOTOR gives you a sense of galactic importance, like the fate of the galaxy rests in YOUR hands, while watching ROTS you simply get the feeling that Anakin has his own galactic importance but it doesn't relate to you.

5. ROTS has very few things people didn't already know, and those things only gave a slight shock when it happened. KOTOR on the other hand, you don't know what's going to happen, like the major surprise, getting captured by the Leviathan, Bastila turning to the dark side (ok that was obvious) but again it also comes down to you choosing what to say at every moment, whether to be a smart ass, nice guy, or bad ass and choosing which side of the Force to be on.

6. The freedom to do whatever you want. If you want to see more of Tatooine you can, or talk to someone else, or learn more about your companions, your lightsaber color, etc. but in ROTS if you wanted to see a little more of Coruscant, know more about this character, etc. it's just too bad.

So that's why I think KOTOR is better than ROTS.

yes, but that is because its a video game.

ROTS is a movie. i can equally say things like "ROTS has better visuals then KOTOR, or the sword fighting in ROTS is better then KOTOR". and thats because its a movie and thus naturally has these things better about it.

so really u didnt give a reason why KOTOR was better then ROTS, that are valid, u rather just gave reasons why KOTOR is a good video game.

No he gives valid reasons because its his opinion, how can you argue with an opinion? He likes it more, let him you can't argue that he does not.

yes, an opinion, but if your going to argue something then its best to use things that are not implied by the genere that it is in.

so like i said, i could equally say:

1) ROTS is the story of Anakin, who is the most important character in SW becasue SW is about Anakin

2) ROTS has far better visuals then KOTOR, and thus is far better.

3) the sword fighting is far more real in ROTS then it is in KOTOR.

4) even things like "the costumes are far better in ROTS then KOTOR"

these are all things, based upon opinion, but they are things that are inharent for a movie to be. naturally the visuals are going to be better in ROTS then in a video game, just as naturally its going to seem more immersive while playing a video game then watching a movie.

so these points are not exactly good to argue with.

Yes they are..

Look if you think the way it looks is most important then is what you think and you will like movies more. But if he thinks freedom is more important he will like games more.

If you want it to be about Anakin then you will like the movies more, but if somebody else does not want it to be about Anakin he will like things that are not the movies more.

Its just how you look at it. What you consider more important.

you are correct, when it comes to opinion. but opinion is not the basis of argument.

you need facts that give presidence over another fact in order for it to be a strong argument.

opinions are not strong arguments, they are the weakest kind argument.

personal reason, while vaild to the individual, are not vaild in argument.

you need at least an inductive truth that has relivence to another inductive truth about something for the argument to hold weight.

opnions are the weakest form of this.

How the hell can you give facts in a thread that asks for your opinion? Thats what it does, this can only be based on opinions not on anything else. You can give your opinion but that is it.

Since when the hell does this thread involve argument based on cold hard fact? If I ask you if apple pie is better than hot sex with a donkey, there is no right or wrong factual answer and no right or wrong opinion answer. So what are you getting at, Anomaly? And why are you in the Eu section when you hate EU?

it is asking for you opinion on which is better, ROTS or KOTOR.

so then to argue for either you need "facts" of some sort, or at least something that is not inharently part of the genere to argue with.

for example.

ROTS is better because it isthe story of how Anakin Skywalker becomes darth Vader.

who is without question the most popular character in all the SW universe.

so naturally a story about the most important character is better then a character that the majority of peoples have never heard of.

this is an example of what im talking about. it is an opinion with an inductive fact that creates an argument.

this is far more effective then saying "KOTOR is better becasue it allows you to chose more"

when this is obvious, seeing as KOTOR is a game in which choosing things is the major theme. just as the Visuals are a major inharent thing in the movies.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Since when the hell does this thread involve argument based on cold hard fact? If I ask you if apple pie is better than hot sex with a donkey, there is no right or wrong factual answer and no right or wrong opinion answer. So what are you getting at, Anomaly? And why are you in the Eu section when you hate EU?

oh because I was in this thread yesterday and felt it nessassary to follow up on what was going on.

oh and im not calling reven's points completly invalid, as indeed he is intitled to his opinion, im just pointing out that pure opinion based on obviousness is not such a good way to argue.

btw, im wondering, it seems everyone "knows" i "hate" EU here.

i find this intresting, as i never said i hate EU at all.

well, I sometiems do, it depends on the EU

so long as its not throwen out of proportion (like most EU is) then im fine with it.

"the new rebellion" is an EU book which i very much enjoyed because it took nothing away from the movies and it didnt go overboard. so it was good.

if all EU was like this, i'd be fine with it

Its also obvious that SW is about Anakin...

You are just posting opinions.

But lets say it like this. Kotor is better because Kotor won a shit load of awards because it is a great game. ROTS will never win one oscar.

So there you have it a reason for Kotor to win. Now just drop it, this is a matter of opinion he can have whatever reason he wants.

If I think ROTS is better because I like to jerk off to animal porn then that is my right, that it doesn't have anything to do with ROTS does not even matter because its my opinion.

(BTW: I don't like to anything like that)

This fued is silly. ROTS and KOTOR are perfectly even. KOTOR has some better things than ROTS, and has some worse things. Likewise with ROTS. It's not even possible to compare a game to a movie. Let it go.

I agree but i'm not debating about that right now

yes, thank you fishy, u in one sentence argued better then reven's whole post. this is all that i was saying.

giving a point that proves something that is not soley based on opinion.

btw, anakin being the "star" of SW was not my point, the fact that he symbolizes SW was my point. that he made it what it is. thats quite a big deal.

never the less, im not really here to keep arguing. i merly came to see what was going on.

i shal be going now.

have a nice day 🙂

Let's all shut up and be buddies.

Same to you

Goody. We're buddies now. ✅

Actually, I thought KOTOR's story was cliched and obvious. Did bugger all for me.

kotor had a great and inovative story the only problem with ROTS os you have to take all the movies into account its one of 6 moive taht after we have watch the OT we knew what was going to happen