Is KOTOR better than ROTS?

Started by Ast Rofan36 pages

Whoa, this thing is still going.

IMO, Revenge of the Sith is much better... Why?

1) Better visuals
2) It's a movie (movies>videogames)
3) More important storyline/more interesting
4) More dramatic (You actually care about the characters and what is happening to them)
5) More realistic... when I played KOTOR, my character would frequently "miss" when he was standing less than a foot away from the enemy.

Keep in mind, all of that ^ is just my opinion...

Originally posted by darth-yoda
kotor had a great and inovative story the only problem with ROTS os you have to take all the movies into account its one of 6 moive taht after we have watch the OT we knew what was going to happen

What, by any sane description, made KOTOR's story innovative?

It was the latest in 10000 very similar amnesiac stories.

it is pointless Ushgarak...

honestly it really is....

they wont listen anyways.

God, GIVE IT A REST ALREADY. Shut this freakin' place down. They're both great. ROTS is a great movie, KOTOR is a great game!

Originally posted by Tulak Hord
God, GIVE IT A REST ALREADY. Shut this freakin' place down. They're both great. ROTS is a great movie, KOTOR is a great game!

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Peace brothers. ROTS, KotOR. It's all Star Wars, can we at least agree Star Wars Rocks.

Besides, the battle of KotOR/ROTS is over. It was just the peak of a larger battle, that has been waging. I believe thats its time for the true conflict to be revealed, and fought. It will be started. The movies vs. EU.

ROTS was pretty good, but KOTOR is hands on so it's got a whole separate appeal. As far as the games go KOTOR was def better

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Actually, I thought KOTOR's story was cliched and obvious. Did bugger all for me.

Well it's not like you didn't know what was gonna happen in ROTS thanks to the OT.

Anakin became Darth Vader?!! NO WAY!! (sarcasm)

By now, most stories are a little cliched but I can honestly say that I think KOTOR'S is much better.

Playing through the game, becoming a Jedi while people tell you how strong you are, fighting many, many, enemies doing tons of different things to achieve your goals from persuasion, to double crosses, etc. then suddenly being captured by the Leviathan was a surprise to me, learning that the Jedi academy was destroyed, fighting Malak after he told you that you were once the dark lord of the Sith that attacked the Republic, trying to free Bastila, kill Malak, and destroy the Star Forge, he and his companions race to a couple more planets until they come face to face with Bastila who has fallen to the dark side.

Join her or try to save her, travelling to the Star Forge which can create an infinite fleet to destroy the Republic, you must board it since you are the only chance the galaxy has, while the Republic fleet fights in vain against the Sith Forces. After killing Malak, Bastila will join you as your apprentice while the Republic fleet is decimated and you start your galactic domination or Bastila saves the Republic fleet who goes on to destroy the Star Forge and end the Sith threat.

Now we have ROTS. There's a war going on, Anakin and Obi try to rescue the chancellor and Anakin ends up killing Dooku who is leader of the opposing war effort. The Jedi don't trust the Chancellor and vice versa so they each use Anakin to spy on the other. Anakin is trying to find a way to save his wife's life (who has somehow kept their marriage a secret from the Jedi council for 3 years) simply because he had a vision of her death. Obi goes after G.G. to end the war while Anakin finds out the Chancellor is the Sith lord and reports him to the Council.

Obi kills Grievous ending the war while Mace beats Palpatine and is about to kill him and restore peace to the galaxy but Anakin cuts his arm off and turns to the dark side which he was foolishty fooled into thinking would give him the power to save his wife. He kills everyone he can at the Jedi temple with the help of thousands of clone troopers who have turned on all the Jedi and backstabbed them. Then Anakin must go to a volcanic planet to kill all the opposing war leaders (even though the war is over) while Obi returns to Coruscant helping Yoda take back the Jedi temple and talks to Yoda and then to Padme. Padme decides to follow Anakin while Obi sneaks aboard.

Apparently their ship is much faster than Anakin's because by the time the go half way across the galaxy, Anakin is still there. Even though Anakin was doing all this for Padme, when he sees Obi aboard he decides to choke her and knocks her unconsious. Obi and Anakin fight while Yoda and the Emperor (Chancellor declared himself Emperor over everyone while nearly every senator applauded madly) fight. None of the 4 combatants die but Anakin loses his legs and other arm while being burned alive so the Emperor goes half-way across the galaxy (might quick too) and comes in time to save Anakin and put him in a big black metal suit thing while telling Anakin that he was the one who killed Padme. Anakin believes it without question and continues to be super loyal to the Emperor.

Padme meanwhile, gave birth to twins and died from a lack of will to live (I guess she didn't care at all about her friends, twin babies, and the fate of the Republic) The twins are split up and the Jedi go into hiding. The End.

Whew, that took a lot longer than I thought it would but for me the ROTS story was not all that great. Not bad, but no KOTOR.

Agreed.

Sorry, absolutely none of KOTOR was a surprise to me. More cliched obviousness. But it was also pretending to be big and clever, which it was not. The twist was also... mundane.

ROTS was exactly what it said it was, and bravo to it.

There are many things to like about KOTOR. I don't even DISlike the plot. It was much better than many computer game plots. But I have never ever seen it as this super-genius thing that people seem to mysteriously say it is. Frankly, not wanting to sound pig-headed, but I've done SW games with much better plots. There's just nothing really fantastic to KOTOR. In fact, Baldur's Gate (from the same studio) had a better plot, as did Planescape: Torment.

Opinions all just opinions. I really can't even understand how this thread became so big.

I like both Kotor and ROTS, Kotor gives me more to talk about but ROTS well its ROTS. Both are great IMO and I don't really think you can compare the two.

You can restrict them to their plots and compare them, easily. Strip out the gaming of KOTOR and the special effects and acting of ROTS and all you have is a storyline. And I simply do not understand why KOTOR's rather typical plot ssores over ROTS's culmination of twenty five year's work.

Because Kotor makes you decide how it ends... ROTS does not.

And actually I liked Rots plot a lot more then I did that of Kotor, but I did not think that of Kotor was all bad, then again you have to consider that its far easier to feel something with a movie then with a game becuase a movie plays towards the moment in a game you can get really annoyed in a level bcause you don't get through.

It doesn't matter that you can choose how KOTOR ends. It's all part of an overall device called a storyline, that can be easily analysed.

My personal problem with KOTOR is its ludicrously overpowered force powers rather than its plot. As I say, I just don't get what all this fuss about its plot being genius is, I really don't.

Well just the storyline, I don't know. I can't stand Anakin's retarded way of thinking and ROTS is not meant to be by itself whereas KOTOR is since it has a start, middle and finish but ROTS is just like a middle so in pure storyline such as reading a script, I would say KOTOR.

Neither do I, its nice but not brilliant still its just an opinion, you can't really argue against that

No, but I can say I do not understand it, which I do with most opinions. It makes no sense to me.

Opiniond that differ from yours hardly ever do. Just makes people look retarded, even though they think the same thing about you 😛