Who is the strongest Dark Lord?

Started by Darth Kreiger26 pages

Exar Kun, Nihilus, and Sion in Power levels.

Revan and Vader in other ways, not just super-powered and Evil Murderous Rampagers

Oh, and Darth Traya being Super-Powerful, she wasn't, she had Future Sight, and could lie to people easily, so probably Powerful Mind-Tricks, on terms of fighting, in a battle she isn't that great

Ragnos wasn't. He's been debunked to hell and back and even the Sith tomes disagree with him being the strongest it seems

I disagree with that statement, Ragnos' power is clear in terms of being VERY powerful. Yet how powerful according to Sidious is inconclusive.

Noone's ever disputed his status among his time

well it did take planets of darkside energy to bring him back from the dead, thousands of years later and doesn't a spirit's power decrease over time, making him immensly powerful in his prime.

i'll try and find official sources to varify power or something...

It'd take that to bring anyone back who'd been dead 5000 years...

o fanboy? lightsnake still want to go on eh? since when did they say sidious can loo[p in and out of the force? look whos talking fanboy language, Lightsnake who always wants his favourite characters on the top.

too bad im gonna break his arguements,

and yes full potential anakin is stronger than even sidious himself,
who said so? george lucas and luke was suppose to come what anakin became but since anakins in the darkside he will surpass luke in terms of power

Lightsnake u want to make up stuff, then lets make the kotor cut content Canon, that = sidious gets beat to the ground hard.

and dont u remember he has force crush? that has no defense.
how u gonna prove sidious can loop out? answer he cant because ur a fanboy whos calling other people fanboy and attempting to alter the "facts"

everytie u argue with some1 u try to make new stuff about ur fav characters which isnt true, i read all the books about Sidious, never ever did he learned the loop, so lightsnake the ultimate faboy, u really should stop doing all this, why? because u can never make me stop coming out with reasons.

you never mentioned DE sidious can loop in the force. and now ur claiming he is, see? proven fact ur a fanboy.

dont want to be equal? lets see how long u will argue with me, lets see if u can do the right thing to back down, or be a fool and go on

how bout it? obviously ur not thinking u just do it

Look, you're starting to piss people off. Dude, you can't even spell properly. Don't consider yourself "teh uber debater" when you're not one at all. Quit acting like a freaking know-it-all when you're the final link in the food chain, son.

o fanboy? lightsnake still want to go on eh? since when did they say sidious can loo[p in and out of the force?

Point being... if Dark Siders and Sith Lords can loop out of the Force, and cut themselves off from it, so can Sidious - because he knows everything that they do, and then some.

look whos talking fanboy language, Lightsnake who always wants his favourite characters on the top.

[sarcasm] Oh yeah, because you're completely bias-free. [/sarcasm]

too bad im gonna break his arguements,

Not likely.

and yes full potential anakin is stronger than even sidious himself, who said so? george lucas

I don't think LS denied that.

and luke was suppose to come what anakin became but since anakins in the darkside he will surpass luke in terms of power

Um...

a. When is the Dark Side stronger? The strongest being in the Dark Side of the Force is Sidious - and LotF Luke (who is on the Light Side) is more powerful than he is. The light and dark sides are innately equal. Just depends on the power of the user.

b. Anakin was on the light and dark side, at various times. He and Luke, if both were at full potential, would be equals in sheer power.

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Lightsnake u want to make up stuff, then lets make the kotor cut content Canon, that = sidious gets beat to the ground hard.

a. The KotoR cut content isn't canon... hence why it is cut. Emphasis on cut.

b. Still doesn't mean that Nihilus is gonna beat Sidious. Sidious knows all of Nihilus's techniques and a hell of a lot more.

and dont u remember he has force crush? that has no defense.
how u gonna prove sidious can loop out? answer he cant because ur a fanboy whos calling other people fanboy and attempting to alter the "facts"

Dude, do you have to be an idiot all the time? Answer: Apparently.

everytie u argue with some1 u try to make new stuff about ur fav characters which isnt true, i read all the books about Sidious, never ever did he learned the loop, so lightsnake the ultimate faboy, u really should stop doing all this, why? because u can never make me stop coming out with reasons.

You. Cannot. Spell. Quit acting like you're a know-it-all. You're, quite frankly, an amateur.

Sidious knows all of the Dark Side techniques ever created.

you never mentioned DE sidious can loop in the force. and now ur claiming he is, see? proven fact ur a fanboy.

Read above.

dont want to be equal? lets see how long u will argue with me, lets see if u can do the right thing to back down, or be a fool and go on

You're not equals.

Lightsnake > you.

Everyone > you.

You're not that good of a debater, my man.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yoda is declared the strongest Jedi master up til the prequels. Buh-bye, Revs.

There's no reason Nihilus and Marka should be on top....Marka's been debunked to hell and back.

that proves lightsnake is a fanboy

and escape, nihilus did his power on a much bigger scale and kreia doesnt even know defences. SHE herself had no defense and she uses ancient sith techniques

/points at escape another nihilus hater.

know all the powers? true but did he blow up a star with his hands? no?

and i read ALL the sources, never said sidious looping or he would have done it when luke cut him off from the force 😄

there, go read it

and theres no defense for a force drrain btw, looping yea but sidious doesnt have that.

and escape, u dont even know how to debate, u quote peoples message and u yap ur daily nonsense.
i never seen u give anything as good as lightsnake, 🙁
proves ur not good as well

that proves lightsnake is a fanboy

Lol, how?

We've got absolutely zero sources to indicate Ragnos's power, other than that he was the most powerful of the Ancient Sith. So what? Luke, Palpatine, Kun, and Yoda didn't exist at the time. So, it just means that he was the strongest of that time.

Nihilus? Got pwned by an above average Jedi.

and escape, nihilus did his power on a much bigger scale and kreia doesnt even know defences. SHE herself had no defense and she uses ancient sith techniques

Sidious knows more than Kreia, and Sidious can perform the same feats as Nihilus.

/points at escape another nihilus hater.

Oh, Jesus! I can play that game!

*points to ESB Vader as a Luke and Sidious hater*

know all the powers? true but did he blow up a star with his hands? no?

Sadow required a ship to do that. Didn't do it by himself.

and i read ALL the sources, never said sidious looping or he would have done it when luke cut him off from the force 😄

Erm... Luke cut Sidious off from the Force. Considering how it'd be a Force power to cut oneself off from the Force, how could he do that if he were already severed from it?

and theres no defense for a force drrain btw, looping yea but sidious doesnt have that.

Sidious can perform a Force drain too. Whoopdie-friggen-do.

and escape, u dont even know how to debate, u quote peoples message and u yap ur daily nonsense.
i never seen u give anything as good as lightsnake, 🙁
proves ur not good as well

Rofl. Yeah, okay. 😛

Kreia also escaped Nihilus, sorry.

When did anyone blow up a star with their hands? Noone did, sorry.

Oh, Luke, Leia and baby Anakin used the entire lightside to cut Sidious off...they didn't attack him, they protected him from the dark and he was 100 percent focused on his force storm. he knows EVERY technique. Meaning loops, nimrod.

Owned, fanboy

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Kreia also escaped Nihilus, sorry.

When did anyone blow up a star with their hands? Noone did, sorry.

Oh, Luke, Leia and baby Anakin used the entire lightside to cut Sidious off...they didn't attack him, they protected him from the dark and he was 100 percent focused on his force storm. he knows EVERY technique. Meaning loops, nimrod.

Owned, fanboy

prove it he knows loops, if he so called mastered every technique he would have known Green lightning, and i never said blowing a star with their hands, naga sadow did it with his ship and the amulets and sidious is a very powerful guy who can do things without the amulets so y didnt he? because he didnt master every technique as the source book claims, naga sadow marka ragnos darth nihilus all came out after the DE source book and new info overwites old.

and techniques u say? was he able to manipulate black holes like luke? no he didnt

kreia escaped because he allowed her to live.

look lightsnake i dont deny sidious being the most powerful in terms of knowing nearly all the sith force attacks but people like marka ragnos have a greater level of exerting their powers. same as exar kun

and escape81 the exile is no ordinary jedi, shes a wound, and she can form bonds with many people and able to kill all of them by killing herself shattering the bond which can wipe out an entire galaxy

and if nagasadow and ludo kressh were such powerful sithlords and they bowed to ragnos spirit, doesnt it prove ragnos power is obviously astronomical?

and escape, nihilus is a wound, kreia said so herself ingame, he is the socalled opposite of the exile, sidious draining him would back fire as nihilus did on the exile.

the best way for palpatine to kill nihilus is to attempt to open a force storm in the room they r in and then run away cuz if he doesnt he gets sucked in

and fanboy i am? o no no no it seems you are 🙁
i am siding sidious and nihilus telling both sides,
u lightsnake only tell 1 side which proves you ARE a fanboy.

heres my list of strongest dark lords
1. DE sidious(he learned just about everything cept lukes stuff)
2. markaragnos
3, nihilus
4, exar kun
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well there it is, all im saying is sidious can be taken down by the others, i didnt deny him being the strngest,
he may have mastered them but certeinly he didnt exert as much power as the ancient sith.

Originally posted by ESB Vader
prove it he knows loops, if he so called mastered every technique he would have known Green lightning, and i never said blowing a star with their hands, naga sadow did it with his ship and the amulets and sidious is a very powerful guy who can do things without the amulets so y didnt he? because he didnt master every technique as the source book claims, naga sadow marka ragnos darth nihilus all came out after the DE source book and new info overwites old.

? true but did he blow up a star with his hands

Both of these quotes were taken from your original posts ESB. In the first you clearly state "I never said blowing a star with their hands". Then we come to the second quote that quite clearly shows that you did say exactly that.

Originally posted by ESB Vader
kreia escaped because he allowed her to live.

Proof?

Originally posted by ESB Vader
look lightsnake i dont deny sidious being the most powerful in terms of knowing nearly all the sith force attacks but people like marka ragnos have a greater level of exerting their powers. same as exar kun

Umm, Even GL stated that Sidious was the most powerful Dark Lord yet? Haven't seen Exar Kun use a force storm yet.

and escape81 the exile is no ordinary jedi, shes a wound, and she can form bonds with many people and able to kill all of them by killing herself shattering the bond which can wipe out an entire galaxy

The exile was a wound yes, but only average in skills. This was clearly stated by Masters Vandar and Vrook.

and if nagasadow and ludo kressh were such powerful sithlords and they bowed to ragnos spirit, doesnt it prove ragnos power is obviously astronomical?

Yet all these spirits bowed to Sidious when he went to Korriban for Answers - Source = Empire's End

Originally posted by ESB Vader
well there it is, all im saying is sidious can be taken down by the others, i didnt deny him being the strngest,
he may have mastered them but certeinly he didnt exert as much power as the ancient sith.

Not easy arguing with a dyslexic child that is for sure.

Sidious taken down. I can only assume you watched the movies. You did happen to notice Sidious take down 3 Jedi Masters (all Council Members) within a 5 second time count? Or has that just slipped on by in the bong smoke.

Now is that Strongest or Strangest???

He may have mastered them? So I take it "Them" implies slaves??

No he didn't exert as much power as the ancient sith. It was no exertion for him at all to display a level of power far beyond what they had ever accomplished with their own bare hands.

Originally posted by Archangelysses
Umm, Even GL stated that Sidious was the most powerful Dark Lord yet? Haven't seen Exar Kun use a force storm yet.

Yet all these spirits bowed to Sidious when he went to Korriban for Answers - Source = Empire's End

GL stated sidious being the most powerful dark lord in the movies, HE stated anakin at his full potential will surpass sidious and every other sw Character

Originally posted by Archangelysses
Not easy arguing with a dyslexic child that is for sure.

Sidious taken down. I can only assume you watched the movies. You did happen to notice Sidious take down 3 Jedi Masters (all Council Members) within a 5 second time count? Or has that just slipped on by in the bong smoke.

Now is that Strongest or Strangest???

He may have mastered them? So I take it "Them" implies slaves??

No he didn't exert as much power as the ancient sith. It was no exertion for him at all to display a level of power far beyond what they had ever accomplished with their own bare hands.

calling me spastic?

and didnt exert at all? if so he would have pwned luke in DE

do u even know what are you talking about?

and mace windu pwned him till anakin got involved

and it took over an army of jedis to stop exar in yavin 4.
there are others like sion who could possibly replicate his force storm but sion cannot control it cuz he didnt master the force enough and it will problably kill him.

and exar kun, well didnt a source state he was the most dangerous of all the dark lords of ths sith? i cant remember where though

Anakin never reached full potential. Therefore my point stands.