Originally posted by Nellinator
There is a circle of emotions create by I can't remember who that had the basic emotions in the a circle and different combinations of the two creating secondary emotions. If I remember correctly hatred was considered a combination of anger and disgust, however, I personally do not agree with that because I can be angry and disgusted with a person without hating them.
Yes, you can be angry with a person, you can also be disgusted, that does not mean you hate them.
Hatred is far deeper than that. However, Hatred comes in strong and weak forms as well. Anger and Disgust can be far stronger than Hatred, depending on the person and the situation.
Hatred can be as weak as having absolutely no respect and stubborn dislike for someone or something, or can be as strong as the racism and homophobia presented by the Ku Klux Klan.
Hatred can be artificial (taught and learned) and/ or natural (immediate response to an undesirable event)....
No, Lil B, that does not give hateful people an excuse..at all. Sadism, for example, is a natural irrationality....people don't choose to be sadistic, they are sadistic because there is something mentally wrong with them....same with Hatred.
A person can choose to submit to the Hatred or mature past it, but a person does not choose to hate, and a every single individual person is perfectly capable of harnessing hatred without learning it from another person.
Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all essentially the same thing
The only difference is that, Judaism mainly follows the old testament
Christianity mainly follows the New Testament
and Islam mainly follows what they believe to be beyond the New Testament
And all 3 religions have been perverted to follow the beliefs of the corrupt and vile throughout history and still do to this day by some
Originally posted by Nellinator
The psychological community does not consider hatred one of the basic emotions. There are a few theories on what the basic emotions are, but hatred is not considered one of them by any I can think of.
Precisely. As far as psychology goes, hate was never considered a primary emotion. Hence - the complexity of it all.
Anger is viewed as a primary emotion, and I would not hesitate to suggest that animals feel anger, but to say that Anger and Hate are the same is just silly.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I personally do not consider Hatred an emotion. Hatred, is more like a state of mind, like Depression. It's also more of a mentality than just a feeling.You can teach someone what to think, but you can't truly teach them how to feel....
So, basically...what are you trying to say?
First point - I don't consider hate an emotion, but a state of mind.
Second point - You can't teach someone what the feel.
Ok, yet you don't consider hate an emotion so how is teaching a feeling relevant?
Hate and depression are COMPLETELY different. Depression is a medical condition, and a psychological disorder. Hate is considered a secondary, and sometimes even Tertiary emotion which can spring from a whole combination of other emtions.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So, basically...what are you trying to say?
That Hate, like Love, is natural and can be shaped or ignited by human influence. I do not beleive we invented it.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
First point - I don't consider hate an emotion, but a state of mind.
Hatred is not a "come and go" feeling like sadness, happiness, excitement or fear.
Hatred is far more complicated. Yes, you can definately help shape someone's hate. I beleive Racism and Homophobia are manufactured versions of Hatred, which are shaped by influence and personal disgust, however, for someone to truly be hateful, it has to be in thier nature to hate.
There are lots of people who grow up in abusive and tormented homes, who become loving people. Likewise, there are people who grow up with loving parents, lots of money, good influences, yet still somehow possess hatred.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Second point - You can't teach someone what the feel.
You can teach someone what to think, but not what to feel....thier feelings will simply be a response to thier thoughts, influences, and personal outlooks while thier mentality will be spawned from the accumulation of thier thoughts and feelings.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Ok, yet you don't consider hate an emotion so how is teaching a feeling relevant?
To feel something is not pure emotion. Emotion itself, is an immediate response, and is rather quick....a state of mind lasts much longer, however, in a state of mind, you certainly have an intense and long enduring feeling.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Hate and depression are COMPLETELY different. Depression is a medical condition, and a psychological disorder. Hate is considered a secondary, and sometimes even Tertiary emotion which can spring from a whole combination of other emtions.
1) Psychologists are now debating as to whether or not label Racism a mental disorder.
2) Clinical Depression is a medical condition, while casual depression comes and goes dependent on external factors.
Hatred, comes in many many forms, as does Depression.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
1) Psychologists are now debating as to whether or not label Racism a mental disorder.