Originally posted by Chibi Boy
if they appeared from nothing on a planet which is hostile why couldn't they appear on Mars? They haven't, so there's the ultimate proof against Evolution.
There may have been life on Mars, and there still maybe life there now. Mars was once a wet world, and rocks that have been impacted off the surface and landed on Earth, have traces that suggest fossilized life.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
if they appeared from nothing on a planet which is hostile why couldn't they appear on Mars? They haven't, so there's the ultimate proof against Evolution.
Maybe you should have a little think about the differences between the two planets in (among other things) size, gravity, consequential atmospheric composition, amount of liquid water, distance from the sun and terrestrial composition. You're comparing apples with oranges.
And prokaryotic organisms did not "appear from nothing" they like every living organism are formed from organic molecules, they likely originated from those self same organic molecules.
Originally posted by sonnet
The Bible does not say that earth is 7000 years old. That is a assumption people make from dates and time periods mentioned in the Bible. Just as in Genesis it would be ignorant to assume that the creation was in 7 days because it clearly says in the Bible that one day for God is like 1000 years on earth which means the Creation alone could have taken 7000 years to complete. But this is all just speculation as no one can be sure. Even the evolution theories are build on speculation on what they have found. Their are no notes left for us to tell us exactly how it happened and how long it took. That is why it is called THEORIES because it is not absolutely, without a doubt fact. Even today there are discrepancies and irregularities showing up in these theories.
However, if one translates the original Hebrew, it seems that there are at least two words that translate to 'day', and the one used in Genesis happens to mean a day of twenty-four hours.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Maybe you should have a little think about the differences between the two planets in (among other things) size, gravity, consequential atmospheric composition, amount of liquid water, distance from the sun and terrestrial composition. You're comparing apples with oranges.And prokaryotic organisms did not "appear from nothing" they like every living organism are formed from organic molecules, they likely originated from those self same organic molecules.
The problem is, scientists have learnt that not all 'prokaryotic organisms' need liquid water, according to evolution they'd just evolve into using different things to live on. Scientists have also learnt that 'prokaryotic organisms' can survive in extreme conditions, at the lowest areas of the sea (Where a human would be crushed in seconds) there are life forms which thrive just as well as we do (clearly not as intelligent though). Let us remember that the Bible wrote, before anyone knew the shape of the earth, that the earth was round, how would they have known that if there wasn't one who knew/god to tell them?
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
The problem is, scientists have learnt that not all 'prokaryotic organisms' need liquid water, according to evolution they'd just evolve into using different things to live on. Scientists have also learnt that 'prokaryotic organisms' can survive in extreme conditions, at the lowest areas of the sea (Where a human would be crushed in seconds) there are life forms which thrive just as well as we do (clearly not as intelligent though).
Some prokaryotes have evolved mechanisms of anaerobic respiration and thus can survive in the absence of oxygen and some can only survive in the absence of oxygen (obligate anaerobes). However to my knowledge no known organism can survive in the absence of liquid water, so could I know from which Journal you determined that not all prokaryotes need liquid water. Why are you trying to argue that there is life on Mars again?
Barophilic bacteria have evolved mechanisms to survive and thrive in high pressure conditions. Again I'm not sure what your trying to imply.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
Let us remember that the Bible wrote, before anyone knew the shape of the earth, that the earth was round, how would they have known that if there wasn't one who knew/god to tell them?
(Firstly I have to question your semantics. The Bible did not write anything. The Bible was written by someone, and they did not document "the creation of the earth" at the time of "the creation of the earth". I'd imagine it would have been written some time later.)
Perhaps they deduced such an idea through geometry. Perhaps they thought a spherical earth would simply be more aesthetic. Perhaps they guessed. Perhaps they did hear voices in their head telling them the Earth was spherical.
In other words assuming knowledge of the thought processes and motives of another person is pure conjecture.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Some prokaryotes have evolved mechanisms of anaerobic respiration and thus can survive in the absence of oxygen and some can only survive in the absence of oxygen (obligate anaerobes). However to my knowledge no known organism can survive in the absence of liquid water, prokaryotes Why are you trying to argue that there is life on Mars again?Barophilic bacteria have evolved mechanisms to survive and thrive in high pressure conditions. Again I'm not sure what your trying to imply.
"Barophilic bacteria have evolved mechanisms to survive and thrive in high pressure conditions. Again I'm not sure what your trying to imply."
I am saying that them evolving into surviving into such conditions would mean others could evolve into adapting to extreme temperatures such as those on Mars. I have seen many documentaries on TV where they have found that bacteria can thrive in extreme conditions(as i said before).All this would mean that, as when plants 'evolved' into taking in CO2 the bacteria on Mars would evolve into breathing methane. Which hasn't happened. (there has infact also been accounts of water vapour on mars, including water in the soil)
Evolution does not state that there should be life on Mars.
To my knowledge there is currently no life on Mars, and I haven't read any articles that have come to the conclusion that there was life on Mars in the past.
If there is to be life on Mars at present one must make the supposition that life existed on Mars in the past. Even if one makes the assumption there was life on Mars prior to now, the concept of evolution does not imply that there must be life on Mars now. The current atmospheric and terrestrial compositions would not in my opinion sustain any life as we know it.
Evolution does not assert that something always survives, it asserts that the species and traits most suited to the environment survive.
Re: The bible says earth is only 7000 yerars old science says it is 5,000,000,000 Y.o
Originally posted by XxoooxX
In the beginging of the bible it says earth was about 6000 7000 years old or somthig like that.But science says that the earth is like 5 billian years old
The oldest rocks which have been found so far (on the Earth) date to about 3.8 to 3.9 billion years ago (by several radiometric dating methods). Some of these rocks are sedimentary, and include minerals which are themselves as old as 4.1 to 4.2 billion years. Rocks of this age are relatively rare, however rocks that are at least 3.5 billion years in age have been found on North America, Greenland, Australia, Africa, and Asia.
The bible NEVER says how old the earth is.