Wolverine Wins!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I have to rephrase real world physics does not apply, logic is logic real world or comic and it should still apply. Something that is completely illogical happening just equals bad writing.

Your conclusion would have to be different, as different evidence is now valid, and different evidence is now invalid. Inductive reasoning cannot be used the same either as the outcome is different. It's like changing to base 8 when used to using base 10.

Or converting from English to Metric. The numbers mean different things.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I actually meant the character profile in terms of a what the character's core abilities are, not actual written profiles.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wolverine's would be a (badly defined) healing factor,

Originally posted by EvilCap America
I should have started arguing "Spiderman has enough strength to take out class 100+ guys like Firelord or Superman" in that case.

Originally posted by EvilCap America
So when this defense is used we might get him at normal levels instead of being turned into a slightly acrobatic nobody that cant take out a normal human who heals fast who eventually turns into a guy that takes 100+strength level hits and moves faster than quicksilver

so an ordinary human is not going to pass out from the pain of being gutted time after time after time? in any case....does his metal skeleton not enhance his durability level's in your eyes? cause it seems to in marvels...

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah it does get rather annoying...i mean you don't like the character that's fine...but to encourage threads in order to try and discredit wolverine supporters as mere fanboys....well that's just overly harsh...

Yeah. I like Wolverine a lot, in fact he's my favorite character. But to be honest? I'm sick of talking about him. The only threads that get replies in this forum are the ones with Wolverine.

Come on! Can't we think of something else?

Originally posted by Piedmon
Right.... nothing abnormal about taking 20 arrows to the chest and not breaking stride. Hell, my friend Jim took 25 and we bought him drinks later. ¬¬

plus I'm sure both you and me know plenty of dudes who can literally fight thousands of hand ninjas after having just fought a super villain unit that was in the hundreds and having been tortured all the day before right?

Oh hell, I did that before lunch today.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Common misconception would be Wolverine's character having enhanced durability. He has never had directly enhanced durability so to speak. He is susceptible to everything an ordinary human male is, he simply regenerates from it.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Yeah. I like Wolverine a lot, in fact he's my favorite character. But to be honest? I'm sick of talking about him. The only threads that get replies in this forum are the ones with Wolverine.

Come on! Can't we think of something else?

well the cyber vs. deathstroke vs. spidey thread is good....but it only got that way after we got off of being hung up on wolverine...lol 😛

I'm amazed Cyber is still remembered to this day. The only thing he did was break Wolverine's claws once and proceed to get his ass "harvested," by Genesis and co.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Oh hell, I did that before lunch today.

really? I fought mine after lunch....

Originally posted by Piedmon
I'm amazed Cyber is still remembered to this day. The only thing he did was break Wolverine's claws once and proceed to get his ass "harvested," by Genesis and co.

actually he messed with daredevil...and he fought the x-factor...and whooped up on quite a few of em...his powers nonetheless make for a pretty powerful baddy..

Originally posted by jinzin
if something happens consistantly then why would it be considered bad writing....consider if jubilee went all out and beat a herald.....the first time....yeah PIS obviously...the second....PIS and CIS maybe....the third time though?....how many times does one have to prove he/she can do something before it's established that they indeed can? (i'e' wolverine taking WAAAAAAAYYYY more physical abuse than what spiderman has the ability to provide, ability to heal from being gutted completely within a minute....taking hulk punches and remaininconsious much less spidey ones....(speaking of which) beating spiderman 3 times...

it's like telling me I can't do a one handed push-up....I do it......did I get lucky? .........maybe...

I do it again.....lucky again?........maybe....but not likely...

I do it again.....obviously it's withing my capabilities to do....(i.e. logans superhuman speed, agility, strength, and durability.....and JUMPING HA)

When that happens we should get an explanation and possiblly a storyline about the enhancement.If Jarvis one day killed Galactus with his Laser breath id probably want a reason even a BAD ONE as to why.I mean come on we the 21st century comic book fans arent the slow witted easily entertained types like in yesteryear.Plotholes and flucuating character abilities arent simply forgotten by the next comic or thought of as "Just a kiddie funny papers story"

Until then if Wolverine takes hits from Spiderman and matches him in agility its bad writing.If a writer gives us a story where we see wolvie get an upgrade i will 10000% back it even if its a stupid story

Originally posted by jinzin
really? I fought mine after lunch....

Originally posted by jinzin
actually he messed with daredevil...and he fought the x-factor...and whooped up on quite a few of em...his powers nonetheless make for a pretty powerful baddy..

Ah, well. R.I.P, Cyber. He was a doughty lad, never let his name besmirched.

Originally posted by EvilCap America
When that happens we should get an explanation and possiblly a storyline about the enhancement.

Originally posted by EvilCap America
Until then if Wolverine takes hits from Spiderman and matches him in agility its bad writing.If a writer gives us a story where we see wolvie get an upgrade i will 10000% back it even if its a stupid story

And you wonder why I call you a fanboy. 🙄

Argh outnumbered. 😂

First off I have nothing against Wolverine. Secondly Wolverine cannot die in the comics not because of a healing factor but because Marvel will never kill him. Fan backlash = millions of lost dollars. Thirdly I meant mutation derived durability, besides the adamantium doesn't protect anything but his skeleton and anything within it, his fleshy parts should be as vulnerable as anything. Finally I'm sick of Wolverine fights too.

Originally posted by EvilCap America
When that happens we should get an explanation and possiblly a storyline about the enhancement.If Jarvis one day killed Galactus with his Laser breath id probably want a reason even a BAD ONE as to why.I mean come on we the 21st century comic book fans arent the slow witted easily entertained types like in yesteryear.Plotholes and flucuating character abilities arent simply forgotten by the next comic or thought of as "Just a kiddie funny papers story"

Until then if Wolverine takes hits from Spiderman and matches him in agility its bad writing.If a writer gives us a story where we see wolvie get an upgrade i will 10000% back it even if its a stupid story

Have you ever considered the possibility that perhaps..... Everyone else got WEAKER!?

:-O

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Argh outnumbered. 😂

First off I have nothing against Wolverine. Secondly Wolverine cannot die in the comics not because of a healing factor but because Marvel will never kill him. Fan backlash = millions of lost dollars. Thirdly I meant mutation derived durability, besides the adamantium doesn't protect anything but his skeleton and anything within it, his fleshy parts [B]should be as vulnerable as anything. Finally I'm sick of Wolverine fights too. [/B]

Right. . because death and rebirth are impossible in the marvel realm, it has to be popularity keeping him alive rather than his own abilities or a plot device. . .

Originally posted by EvilCap America
When that happens we should get an explanation and possiblly a storyline about the enhancement.If Jarvis one day killed Galactus with his Laser breath id probably want a reason even a BAD ONE as to why.I mean come on we the 21st century comic book fans arent the slow witted easily entertained types like in yesteryear.Plotholes and flucuating character abilities arent simply forgotten by the next comic or thought of as "Just a kiddie funny papers story"

Until then if Wolverine takes hits from Spiderman and matches him in agility its bad writing.If a writer gives us a story where we see wolvie get an upgrade i will 10000% back it even if its a stupid story

so in that event..you would still be looking for reasons...however wolverine beating spiderman equates to no reasoning? it's just bad writing?

common....if a character can do something consistantly (taking clas 100 hits and what not) than it's an ability the character has at their disposal....let it go...let it go...breath....

Originally posted by Creshosk

Your fanboyism is screaming at me: WOLVERINE MUST BE USED AT HIS WEAKEST, SPIDERMAN MUST BE ENHANCED OR ELSE IT IS PIS/CIS!

Right even though ive already talked about how i could give a crap about a character that weaseled his way onto the Avengers because he was in a movie and made sure i would neverbuy his comic again after the "magic Spide totem" crap..I saw a topic i came on it and stated the first point i thought of didnt give a god damn about either of these Marvel trashy movie characters in thier promo comics and i sudddenly am i fanboy

Whatever if it makes you feel like a better person who am i to call names 🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
so in that event..you would still be looking for reasons...however wolverine beating spiderman equates to no reasoning? it's just bad writing?

common....if a character can do something consistantly (taking clas 100 hits and what not) than it's an ability the character has at their disposal....let it go...let it go...breath....