Mr. Fantastic VS. Superman

Started by BerserkersRage6 pages

I haven't kept up with Fantastic Four in decades. Is Reed's intellect so high that he has NEVER been beaten one on one before? Ever? if so, that's some track record.

For the record, back in the day when I read a lot of comics, I can't recall him not having a plan that got him the win.

Given they have a month to prep, seems to me the two characters must have some basic knowledge of one another. Otherwise, how are they prepping if they know nothing of the threats?

If Superman were tactically opportunistic, he'd nix the month of prep and attack in the next microsecond, before Reed gets to do anything. I think time plays more to Reed's advantage, and for me, the question is, can he build something strong enough to get through Superman's (likely technological) defenses, those designed to protect him against weakness exploitation (I imagine Supes' prep would focus on this). Put another way: is Reedtech > Krypttech? Given what Reed has done with prep and technology over the decades (I mean, really, this is what he does), I'm leaning towards Stretcho.

Then again...if part of Supes' prep meant consulting Batman, then I can see Kal taking this. I don't think Reed, strictly speaking, is a tactician, which would give the prepped Superman the edge.

Superman flies faster than the speed of light one light-month away, and observes what Reed does in his prep time.

Then flies back, and punches that nerd in the face.

Reedtech beats anything.

The general knowledge rule would REALLY hurt Superman here as Reed has tech that will take out far worse with far less info on them.

The only way Reed can win is if he comes to battle with a device that slows down time (outside of his being) or alters his speed to the level or beyond Superman's the moment the bell rings.

Superman would have basic knowledge of Reed and know how dangerous he is (especially under prep). Thus Superman will use his speed and reflexes to view Reed as frozen in time the moment the bell rings. And precede to do whatever he wants to Reed.

Originally posted by Bentley
His bloated ego 131

Along with jerkassery. But Odin has it even more in spades 😕

Originally posted by Star428
Uh, yeah... We do don't we? Like when Superman has nearly killed him everytime when he's not holding back (ususally because he's mind controlled). Or how about in "Hush" when Bruce was running from him like a scared little ***** and even admitted that if Clark wanted to he could kill him in the blink of an eye? Yeah, we know how Superman vs Bats works all right, dumb***. LOL. Batman has never beaten him in continuity. PERIOD.

As for this fight, Reed with a whole month of prep will probably use it way more to his advantage than Clark will use his. Reed may not know much about him but with a month of prep, he can find out a whole bunch about him. Sorry to say that I think Reed would win with this much prep.


Why don't you put the link with to any of the two threads from which shows Superman has never been beaten by Batman in current continuity

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman flies faster than the speed of light one light-month away, and observes what Reed does in his prep time.

Then flies back, and punches that nerd in the face.

Superman pulls out his Cosmic Armor and shit stomps

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman flies faster than the speed of light one light-month away, and observes what Reed does in his prep time.

Then flies back, and punches that nerd in the face.

Lol agreed

Originally posted by h1a8
The only way Reed can win is if he comes to battle with a device that slows down time (outside of his being) or alters his speed to the level or beyond Superman's the moment the bell rings.

Superman would have basic knowledge of Reed and know how dangerous he is (especially under prep). Thus Superman will use his speed and reflexes to view Reed as frozen in time the moment the bell rings. And precede to do whatever he wants to Reed.

Reed has increased his speed to the point that gladiator had to go beyond light speed just to engage them. Reed with prep would destroy superman. 😉

Originally posted by JBL
Reed has increased his speed to the point that gladiator had to go beyond light speed just to engage them. Reed with prep would destroy superman. 😉

Yes in your eyes anyone in comics would destroy Superman.

Get a life.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Why don't you put the link with to any of the two threads from which shows Superman has never been beaten by Batman in current continuity

LOL. I don't think they've even fought each other in the current continuity which proves that yes, Batman has never beaten him in "current continuity". He's never beat him Pre-new 52, either. I don't have a scanner though so I can't show scans. But, believe what u like. I couldn't care less.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. I don't think they've even fought each other in the current continuity which proves that yes, Batman has never beaten him in "current continuity". He's never beat him Pre-new 52, either. I don't have a scanner though so I can't show scans. But, believe what u like. I couldn't care less.

Lol. They have fought, and Batman held his own against a blood lusted Superman ha.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes in your eyes anyone in comics would destroy Superman.

Get a life.

Yes in your eyes anyone in comics would get destroyed by Superman.
Get off your fanboy love for superman and get a life.

Originally posted by JBL
Yes in your eyes anyone in comics would get destroyed by Superman.
Get off your fanboy love for superman and get a life.

There are many people he would lose too, but you don't understand the difference between who he would lose two and who he would win too. Gfus😂

Too bad Reed has a device that increase his speed as well. That throws the speed argument completely out the window. Please continue.

Originally posted by carver9
Too bad Reed has a device that increase his speed as well. That throws the speed argument completely out the window. Please continue.

I am not arguing for anyone because i have not even read the op yet, but you cant just say reed having a device throws speed out of the window. To what extent does it increase his speed? You don't know, if you had actual evidence to the extent it increased his speed to then it would actually further this argument. Your comment is moot because it is based purely off of speculation.

Originally posted by carver9
Too bad Reed has a device that increase his speed as well. That throws the speed argument completely out the window. Please continue.

Freeze breath/HV FTW.