Originally posted by thingy150
I am not arguing for anyone because i have not even read the op yet, but you cant just say reed having a device throws speed out of the window. To what extent does it increase his speed? You don't know, if you had actual evidence to the extent it increased his speed to then it would actually further this argument. Your comment is moot because it is based purely off of speculation.
It increase his speed to the point that time literally stopped around him. Said he was going FTL during the time. He has a months prep while moving at these high speeds. This doesn't include his Celestial killing weapons or the UN that he have stored in the closet. This is a stomp to the fifth degree. If Reed doesn't want to get touched, it will not happen.
Originally posted by thingy150Reed and the rest of the characters were moving giant weapons so fast that faster than light starships were frozen in times and tech far more advanced than earths could not even detect them, gladiator seen them as blurs and had to increase his speed far far beyond any of his fellows to even engage them in battle, they were moving so fast that the far advanced alarms were silent and the weapons were tons in weight. Its very easy to see how fast they were moving.
I am not arguing for anyone because i have not even read the op yet, but you cant just say reed having a device throws speed out of the window. To what extent does it increase his speed? You don't know, if you had actual evidence to the extent it increased his speed to then it would actually further this argument. Your comment is moot because it is based purely off of speculation.
Originally posted by carver9
It increase his speed to the point that time literally stopped around him. Said he was going FTL during the time. He has a months prep while moving at these high speeds. This doesn't include his Celestial killing weapons or the UN that he have stored in the closet. This is a stomp to the fifth degree. If Reed doesn't want to get touched, it will not happen.
FTL is not as fast as superman, you don't have an exact speed so it does not really factor in the outcome of this fight. Superman still has a speed advantage due to more and better feats. Reed does not have the durability to withstand anything from Clark and since Clark has a plethora of speed/reaction time feats that are better than reed he will be able to hit him, when he does hit him, game over.
I dislike prep threads because they are always based off of speculation, in a debate facts and feats should be used to fuel the conversation but it seems to be the opposite in prep threads(not talking about you just saying in general).
Originally posted by JBL
Reed and the rest of the characters were moving giant weapons so fast that faster than light starships were frozen in times and tech far more advanced than earths could not even detect them, gladiator seen them as blurs and had to increase his speed far far beyond any of his fellows to even engage them in battle, they were moving so fast that the far advanced alarms were silent and the weapons were tons in weight. Its very easy to see how fast they were moving.
Lol, your talking to me like i saw the scans and am debating against them, carver gave one of the vaguest descriptions ever and that is what i had to work with. If this is true then it is a game changer, i am however going to need you to provide scans.
(edit) also gladiator seeing them as blurs is not impressive, he has close to zero reaction time feats.
Originally posted by JBL
Reed and the rest of the characters were moving giant weapons so fast that faster than light starships were frozen in times and tech far more advanced than earths could not even detect them, gladiator seen them as blurs and had to increase his speed far far beyond any of his fellows to even engage them in battle, they were moving so fast that the far advanced alarms were silent and the weapons were tons in weight. Its very easy to see how fast they were moving.
This is true however Superman has tagged Flash and other FTL people.
Originally posted by thingy150
FTL is not as fast as superman, you don't have an exact speed so it does not really factor in the outcome of this fight. Superman still has a speed advantage due to more and better feats. Reed does not have the durability to withstand anything from Clark and since Clark has a plethora of speed/reaction time feats that are better than reed he will be able to hit him, when he does hit him, game over.I dislike prep threads because they are always based off of speculation, in a debate facts and feats should be used to fuel the conversation but it seems to be the opposite in prep threads(not talking about you just saying in general).
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Originally posted by carver9
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That is literally the only thing you can come up with. You are not smart enough and you do not have an argument to debate with me so you try and mock me. You are the most biased uneducated person i have seen on this site and when you don't have an argument you result to pitifully mocking people.
I also responded to you in hulk vs superman.....if you want to lose a debate come respond back.
Originally posted by thingy150
That is literally the only thing you can come up with. You are not smart enough and you do not have an argument to debate with me so you try and mock me. You are the most biased uneducated person i have seen on this site and when you don't have an argument you result to pitifully mocking people.I also responded to you in hulk vs superman.....if you want to lose a debate come respond back.
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You're saying Superman can beat a guy (whos had less prep than a month) that takes out Galactus and Celestial with prep. This is the funniest thing i have read in the history of KMC. Keep it going champ. Next thread, Superman vs Galactus, prep battle.
Originally posted by carver9
😂You're saying Superman can beat a guy (whos had less prep than a month) that takes out Galactus and Celestial with prep. This is the funniest thing i have read in the history of KMC. Keep it going champ. Next thread, Superman vs Galactus, prep battle.
Not once did i say superman beats him, i was just saying that your argument was pathetic...VERY PATHETIC
also you still want to debate WWH vs Superman because i'm in the mood to laugh at your biased comments
Originally posted by thingy150
Not once did i say superman beats him, i was just saying that your argument was pathetic...VERY PATHETICalso you still want to debate WWH vs Superman because i'm in the mood to laugh at your biased comments
You saying Superman is faster than FTL speed is laughable. How can someone be Faster than FTL. Hilarious. Why would I debate with you in regards to anything versus Hulk? Remember our last thread? Read through the scans I posted...the ones you obviously ignored and used the word liar to cover it up.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I demand to know why 😛
He needed Dr.Manhattan Superman to project his essence into the cosmic armour.
I'm also not sure how well the CA is doing after the battle with Mandrakk.
Originally posted by carver9
You saying Superman is faster than FTL speed is laughable. How can someone be Faster than FTL. Hilarious. Why would I debate with you in regards to anything versus Hulk? Remember our last thread? Read through the scans I posted...the ones you obviously ignored and used the word liar to cover it up.
I said superman has faster feats, you never provided exact speed so the rest is you just speculating. What thread? Oh i see, you are trying to dodge me CHALLENGING you because you know you do not have an argument against superman.
Your comments are full of bias and speculation not to mention that when you get proven wrong you mock people due to lack of having an actual debate.
COME DEBATE IN THE WWH VS SUPERMAN THREAD, IM CALLING YOU OUT CARVER EVERYONE IS HERE TO SEE IF YOU B*TCH OUT
Originally posted by thingy150
I said superman has faster feats, you never provided exact speed so the rest is you just speculating. What thread? Oh i see, you are trying to dodge me CHALLENGING you because you know you do not have an argument against superman.Your comments are full of bias and speculation not to mention that when you get proven wrong you mock people due to lack of having an actual debate.
COME DEBATE IN THE WWH VS SUPERMAN THREAD, IM CALLING YOU OUT CARVER EVERYONE IS HERE TO SEE IF YOU B*TCH OUT
Its a months prep...Strange doesn't have to leave his lab to beat Superman, especially since both have basic knowledge of each other. You are comparing a guy that has stopped Celestials and Abstracts with less prep to a freaking Herald. Stop.
My comments are based off on panel showings that you ignored in our last debate. You said Captain Atom can destroy Hulk molecules, I posted a scan of Hulk resisting said attack. You said Captain Atom could shrink Hulk, I posted a scan of Hulk overpowering said attack. You said Captain Atom could freeze time, I posted a scan of Hulk powering through time stop.
You kept going on and on and on which lead to me getting bored because your arguments were lame and you hid behind the word liar because you didn't have a defense. So I'm trying to figure out why I would debate against you with anything concerning Hulk when you know little of the character. Just know that Hulk stomps all.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54828
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Find someone else to debate against.